• I am speed! Kachow
• How old are you?
• and the call is coming from inside the RAM

The Video Version
https://youtu.be/SP-gPAkrqHk

0:00 Cold Open
2:00 It's Not Just Bandwidth
23:47 Age Verification in Linux
43:22 A Terrible Time for Faulty RAM
56:06 Hearkening Back
+56:34 vimlena
+1:00:21 squidiebah
+1:03:18 Chris
+1:04:16 Alphacluster
+1:09:59 WhamGeek
1:12:44 Next Time
1:15:10 Stinger

In this episode we dive into the wonderful world of bandwidth since there's an open source alternative to Speedtest.net and Fast.com these days, and it's LibreSpeed.org. Take a peek, preferably after they update their expired certificate (they seriously did this to us after we speak so highly!) and get a slightly more honest look at your speeds! For bonus points, try a different country. We also dig into some of the technical bits behind those tests.

Also, when speaking about jitter, I should have said 'delta' or 'difference' rather than 'average'!

Then, more age verification. This time, though, Linux distributions are caught in the crossfire and some are exploring the ways to actually handle potential implementations. Nothing's too dire yet as most of these 'laws' are still bills, and that means they don't matter quite yet.

Also, we look into a post by Gabriele Svelto, a Firefox developer, to find out that not only is Firefox a little more reliable than you might think, bad RAM or other hardware bits might actually be the reason things are crashing, and not just Firefox!

Finally, some feedback, and we learn that our Mac User / Listener Venn diagram isn't just two separate circles.

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Check Your Speed 🏁

• librespeed

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Age Verification in Linux (and BSD)

• Proposed Colorado Legislation
• Proposed California Legislation
• System76 response
• Midnight BSD response
• FreeDesktop Merge Proposal punted to a portal implementation

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Memories Lost

• Firefox crash reports detect bit flips

Feedback

@vimlena from YouTube

• Waterfox works with Firefox sync

@squidiebah from YouTube

Been using firefox for years, this won't make me move and I've just disabled it(AI).

Chris from Fireside

I'm that guy. The macOS user that regularly listens to your show! So, the Venn diagram is not two separate circles. It's more like circles that touch at exactly one point without crossing. They form a tangent.

Alphacluster on Discord

• Also a Mac and Kagi user.
• Zen Browser
• Arc Browser
• Orion Browser

WhamGeek on Discord

Kagi has a pilot program to offer free search for public & academic libraries The application button does't work, but I reached out to them and they got back within the hour with the correct link.

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we plan to check in on Kagi and our KDE Linux journey.

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A bit about how we've fared now that the 1.0 Cosmic Epoch is here, how things have changed, and what other goodies System76 has up their sleeve (it's a lot!). Then, we spend some time dissecting Mozilla's newest AI move. It turns out, if you dig deep enough, there's still hope, contrary to the wildly hot-take style news about things so far. And our final topic, Snapscope, a way to scan your Snaps for vulnerabilities, but then end up chatting way more about Snaps in general.

There's also a bit of SteamThing errata we need to cover before ending it all on a high note for the holidays.

Hope you enjoy and we'll see you soon. Happy holidays!

Coming up in this episode

• The stars have aligned for a release
• The top fox is on fire
• Set your scope on snap
• and a wee bit of feedback

0:00 Cold Open
3:44 Cosmic's Epic Epoch
33:52 New CEO, New Mozilla?
1:06:38 360 SnapScope
1:28:31 Errata + Next Time!
1:37:40 Stinger

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Cosmic and Pop!_OS have a release

• The Blog announcement
• 9to5 Linux article
• Carl's Ubuntu Summit presentation

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Mozilla's Next Chapter

• The new CEO's blog post
• Mozilla's SWOT
• Waterfox's reaction

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SnapScope

• Alan Pope's SnapScope
• OMG Ubuntu article
• Darren Horrocks' Snap Unsnapped post

Feedback

--verbose in Discord

• Desktop mode runs in X11. This GitHub issue proposes to change it

Gamma in Discord

• Gamer's Nexus revealed the Steam Machine will have SODIMMs

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we intend to cover the history of YaST in a future episode.

** We hope everyone enjoys the holiday season and we will see you in the new year.**

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• Wayland is inevitable...
• RAM is now Unobtanium
• and a Linux User Space OS?

Today in User Space, we RE-remind everyone that Wayland is certainly the only way forward for the big dogs. Gnome had adopted a Wayland-only stance quite a while ago, and now it looks like Plasma will be following suit. Then, we dive into the wonderful world of Everything terrible that AI is doing to us in the form of RAM price hikes (as much as 500%... so far). And finally, we hit up the feedback that's been piling up! There's a little more to get to eventually, but it'll all get there since we went a little long in this episode.

0:00 Cold Open
1:05 Wayland Is Inevitable...
26:53 RAM Is Now Unobtanium
49:54 The LUS Mailbag
50:19 Mailbag: Daniel
57:40 Mailbag: schemage2210
1:03:19 Mailbag: ewanmarshall
1:10:13 Mailbag: michaelchalmers
1:15:26 Next Time
1:23:08 Stinger

The Video Version
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Plasma is all in on Wayland

• KDE blog post
• We shouted back in 2023 on Season 4 Episode 5
• The Steam Deck which runs on KDE Plasma has high sales numbers

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RAM prices are silly. It is all AI's fault.

• Micron, the manufacturer of Crucal memory, will stop selling RAM to consumers
• Leo spotted prices in the store and they were high.

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Feedback

Daniel via Fireside

• Daniel published an example using KDE environment

ewanmarshall at YouTube

• WinBoat gives a big warning about access to the filesystem.

schemage2210 at YouTube

• plocate is only great if you know the file name. 😉😂

michelchalmers at YouTube

• Two passwords are better than one on encrypted systems that have multiple users. No disagreement. While it is an extra step it can be solved when you add the second user.

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we intend to cover the history of YaST in a future episode.

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• Summaries will change the world
• It's the Last version of YaST
• F-Droid is Doomed

0:00 Cold Open
1:32 Summaries Will Change the World (Wide Web)
22:54 The Last Version of YaST!
41:54 F-Droid Is Doomed!
1:01:32 Feedback: Ant
1:05:09 Feedback: @Tacoghost
1:08:12 Feedback: @RafaelFarreiraPimenta
1:11:09 Feedback: @Fractal_32
1:16:54 Next Time on Linux User Space...
1:20:25 Stinger

The Video Version
https://youtu.be/0uNoVIyFVmA

🔥Warm Up🔥

• AI search summaries aren't always great.
• MIT report: 95% of generative AI pilots at companies are failing

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Myrlyn will cast the spells now

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• Gone for Leap, still around for TW
• Agama is slated to be the new installer.
• Cockpit is proposed be the gui configuration tool.

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F-Droid is doomed

• AOSP is hanging on by a thread
• F-Droid is dying
• The Android Developers Decree

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Feedback

Ant via Fireside

• Ant is following along the Cosmic journey

@Tacoghost via Youtube

• Gentoo isn't that hard if you follow the directions.

@Fractal_32

LFS when?

@RafaelFerreirapimenta

Why Systemd with Gentoo? Because we could 😉. Collectively we did use multiple options.

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we intend to cover the history of YaST in a future episode.

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Support Linux User Space

• AI's Won't Take Over Yet
• Is Rust Open Source?
• and All Kinds of Feedback

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0:00 Cold Open
3:56 Curl's "AI Slop" Problem
25:12 A Little Viral Licensing
42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️
42:30 ukwan / Youtube
51:16 jliljj / Youtube
56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube
1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube
1:02:06 amanita / Patreon
1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube
1:09:35 The Rules, Commands & Next Time
1:19:12 Stinger

The Curl project pushes back on AI slop

• The Ars Technica article
• The Curl project on Hacker One

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Is Rust opensource?

• Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a Stackoverflow post about C language.
• Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. license
• Over the years many CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel. Many of those involve memory corruption.

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Feedback

ukwan from YouTube

• Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going.

jliljj from YouTube

• I'd go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn.

FredsTech1 from YouTube

• Asked about unattended upgrades.
• Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything.
• The Ubuntu Docs

siljrath from YouTube

• I thought I signed up. Anyone know when thundermail happens?

Conan Kudo

• In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don't have problems with Anaconda's hub-and-spoke model.

Amanita from Patreon

• It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good.

redvamp128 from YouTube

• You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux
• It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned!

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Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey

Leo's list of software

• obs-studio
• discord
• telegram
• element
• kdenlive
• gimp
• inkscape
• firefox
• brave

Some commands to help check on sizes

• flatpak list --app --columns=size,name
• flatpaklist --column=size,name
• du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research.

Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.

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• Death & Taxes
• Stop Filing Bug Reports! -- like that
• and Your Emails!

0:00 Cold Open
1:25 Yubikeys are DEAD!
10:41 Deep In the Heart of Ptyxis
28:01 The Do's and Don'ts of Bug Reports
42:47 Email: Scott J
49:47 Email: Ben
52:49 Email: Bruce H
57:48 Email: Rob Simmons
1:03:22 Email: DailyDriver
1:04:24 Email: J
1:08:34 Pnext Time
1:10:17 Pstinger

See the Video on Youtube!
https://youtu.be/jWSVnDYeEe4

Your Yubikey is DEAD!

• The Yubico advisory
• arsTechnica coverage
• The really deep dive details

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Ptyxis?

• Accessibility in Ptyxis
• Fedora workstation (Gnome) will switch for F41.

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How to ask for help. (Social Soapbox)

• Dan's blog post.
• Article written by Simon Tatham.
• Lubuntu wiki page about submitting bugs.

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Feedback

Scott J., Email

• Scott likes the Beelink with the Ryzen7 5800H.

Ben, Email

• Ben recommends Readeck.

Bruce, Email

• Bruce likes the Opera Browser.

Rob Simmons, Email

• Rob found a great operating system for his old Chromebook, Lubuntu. Dan thinks that is good choice too.
• Like Leo, Rob prefers email too. And yes, he is a Simmons ;).

Daily Driver, Email

• DD wants to promote a couple of hidden gem distros.
  • Crunchbangplusplus
  • Bunsenlabs
• https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/31/crunchbang_versus_bunsen_labs/
• https://www.infoworld.com/article/2243143/the-death-of-crunchbang-linux.html
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrunchBang_Linux

J, Email

• J would like some notes, guides and configurations for Wireguard. Stay tuned to our blog. We will try to get something posted.

🔭Next Time🔭

Our first history episode of the season will be Cinnamon Desktop Environment.

Come back for more Linux User Space in two weeks. Watch for our livestream announcements in between episodes.

Stay tuned📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord and now Bluesky or whatever platform you prefer. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.

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• Telemetry helps us all
• Immutability blues
• A correction or two
• And more feedback

📽️The video version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y04YTkEC5Y

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 The GOOD Telemetry
23:33 Gnome Classic & Friends
31:16 The Incredible Immutables
44:00 A Slight Correction
50:25 A Little Backstory
59:24 mintCast, CKP, FCWN & DHD
1:02:31 So Lightweight!
1:10:23 Another Dive into Notes
1:21:48 Fix GRUB, Add Color
1:29:49 Next Time
1:31:58 Stinger

🔥Warm up🔥

Dan Johansen in Matrix

• pkgstats
• Fun Stats

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Fragmentation? Not on My Watch!

Muesli from Matrix

• Gnome Classic
• Is it healthy co-opetition or fragmentation? Let us know.
• Secureblue
• beginning of the year
• BlueBuild

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A quick correction

jensmander1223 on Youtube

• OpenIndiana is Unix-Like but it's own thing

The history of Dan and Leo

visamp from Matrix

• Leo and Dan both did Linux Spotlight Episodes with our former co-host Rocco. Dan's episode and Leo's
• We plan to drop some more tidbits in the not too distant future.

Peter Jones

• Thanks for the support and for listening.
• Mintcast
• Crowbar Kernel Panic
• Full Circle Weekly

Emiliano from Argentina

• Thanks for the message, the Spanish test and the support.

QOwnNotes & Joplin

Scott

• Scott recommends QOwnNotes and not Joplin.

Another Vote for Obsidian. Then Anki, RemNote and LogSeq

DesertDoug

• Doug searched long and hard recently for a note taking app too. Doug bumped into Obsidian, Anki, RemNote and Logseq.

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Gentoo Focus

• Jensmander1223 sent some tips to help Dan with his bootloader issue. Dan will continue to keep working on that. Jensmander also sent along the tip to use colordiff which can highlight differences when changing config files. We plan to go over a few of these on an upcoming livestream.

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to explore and provide the history of LXDE Desktop Environment.

Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space

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Support Linux User Space

• We add to the KDE saga
• We search for the humans on the other end of the Internet
• We pour over the Feedback
• We focus on the Gentoo feedback

The Video Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALGS4Vtei0

Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:30 The KDE AMA
7:47 The Truth About KDE 4.0
19:46 AppImage Is Broken in Ubuntu
24:47 There Be Humans Out There
40:07 Reverb Focus!

• 41:33 Douglas (Old Mac, New Tricks)
• 49:29 Bruce (Well, Why Don't Ya?!)
• 55:12 Jayden (GNOME Syndrome) 1:04:15 The Care & Feeding of Gentoo (feat. Ryan) 1:15:51 Next Time! 1:20:32 Stinger

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• There was an KDE AMA on Lemmy and on Reddit
• Troy Unrau, a KDE dev, on the KDE History

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Douglas Paul

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• Gnome, Fedora, with Extensions and Albert is the landing spot... at least for now.

Bruce Hankins on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11)

• Two categories of users, average users and power users.
• Average users don't really tinker.
• Power users like to tinker (this is where Leo and Dan fall as well as many of you) but there is a small amount of us.
• Installation of the system and applications is not intuitive.

Jayden on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11) AAAAAAND a Note Suggestion

• Gnome with gestures and multi-touch are great.
• A couple of note taking apps for Leo to chase - Xournal++ and Rnote

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• Immutability is confusing
• Going the wrong WEI (or W-E-I)
• Reverb Focus
• Hardware Focus
• And Gentoo Focus

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Immutability Is Confusing
21:25 Going the Wrong WEI
40:55 Reverb Focus
45:56 Community Focus
51:09 Gentoo Focus
1:29:25 Next Time
1:31:02 Stinger

The video version
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• Fedora Silverblue Technical information
• rpm-ostree documentation
• Vanilla OS documentation
• ABRoot
• blendOS documentation

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• 2015 - AMP
• 2019 - Google proposed Web Bundles
• 2021 - Google weakened the power of extensions
• May 2022 - First party sets were introduced through the W3C by Google but in June 2022, the W3C decided to drop the idea.
• April 24, 2023 - The original Google WEI proposal post
• July 24, 2023 - Mozilla's rebuke
• July 25, 2023 - Vivaldi's rebuke
• August 1, 2023 - Brave's rebuke
• August 8, 2023 - The EFF rebuke

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Reverb Focus, all about the feedback.

Lily

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• https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/5e1f51fa93ff37871b9ff738b05ba30f
• https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/1599cb664cc3c2f125a45248d9c6c71d
• https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/124a37ca927018f8b52a72e316d160fa
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Community Focus - Hardware Haven

• YouTube
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Gentoo Focus

• use https://packages.gentoo.org
• read the news - eselect news read new
• pay attention to profile selection

Next Time

The history of the Fedora Immutable Desktops so Fedora Silverblue or Fedora Kinoite or Fedora Sericea.

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1. Plasma's Kind of Hot Right Now
2. Brush your passwords
3. Browser Watch!
4. A little feedback
5. And a little FOCUS

0:00 Cold Open
1:33 Akademy Awards
3:22 Plasma 5.27
24:33 Your Last Pass... Word
47:05 Browser Watch!
55:36 The Mailbag
1:05:35 Community Focus: Vashinator
1:08:08 App Focus: ClamAV
1:20:24 Next Time: EndlessOS History
1:22:25 Stinger

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Banter

• Akademy videos are online
• Plasma 5.27 is ❤
• Nick from The Linux Experiment did a video that goes over some highlights.
• Jupiter Broadcasting covered it in Linux Action News too.
• The question of why isn't KDE Plasma the main DE for a main distro comes around every once and a while.

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Password hygiene is all the rage

• LastPass Blog announcement of the security incident
• We talked a lot about password managers in episode 11.
• Mozilla's pitch.
• Brian Krebs has this to say.
• You can check your passwords against Have I Been Pwned.
• If you use Bitwarden/Vaultwarden, you can use the reports to check exposed, reused, and weak passwords.

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Browser Watch

• Gnome Web has a new UI for handling permissions.
  • We pitched Gnome Web a couple of episodes ago.
• Version 110, Firefox got the addition to import bookmarks, passwords and history from Opera, Opera GX, and Vivaldi.
• Vivaldi makes improvements to their Window Panel.
• Brave does HTTPS everywhere.
• Microsoft Edge adds Adobe Acrobat.

Feedback

"ee" "dee", gotcha 😉

• Turns out we were the joke instead of making one. Apologies.

Anonymous Listener suggests ownCloud

• ownCloud
• We'll check it out and report back.

Daniel M. says...

• Podman
• Daniel's document

Frank W. says...

• Brave is great and cheer from the Great White North, eh!
• Thanks Frank!

Eric M. on Youtube says...

• Pixar and other animation studios use RHEL for their workstations.
• In Podman, the pod comes from kubernetes. A pod is a group of containers that are in the same namespace.

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Community Focus - Vashinator

• Vash's YouTube channel.

App Focus ClamAV

• ClamAV

Next Time

The history of EndlessOS, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show*

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1. Dropping out of the fediverse
2. The tiny text
3. Mozilla Watch
4. The community holds us ransom
5. Our app is faster than light

0:00 Cold Open
2:26 Press 'F' to Pay Respects
9:47 The Elm Mail System
10:56 Enter, PINE
11:44 PICO, the PIne COmposer
13:17 TIP Is not PICO
14:23 NANO's ANOther editor
14:57 "Lightning and the rest of 2000
17:37 2001, and the release of 1.0
18:49 2002-2015, Allegretta's gone and back again
21:37 The Drama in 2016
24:17 2016 to 2022, and my, how boring things got
25:13 About nano, and What's Next
31:26 Mozilla Watch
38:44 Feedback!
46:59 Community Focus: The Ransomware Files
48:57 App Focus: Warp
53:39 Next Time: Kali Linux
56:31 Stinger

Banter

• Dan moves on Mastodon because the instance he is on is going away.
• So long, and thanks for all the fish.

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History Series on Text Editors - GNU Nano

• GNU Nano
• Dave Taylor's Elm Mail System
• Laurence Lundblade and his cohorts were looking for something that had ease-of-use written all over it.
• Enter, Pine. The [freeware-like](wayback.archive.org/web/20001201215500/http://www.washington.edu/pine/overview/legal.html) answer.
• "freeware-ish" label wasn't good enough. So, in 1999, Chris Allegretta, made changes to address that.
• TIP, which stood for TIP Is not Pico, 0.5.0 README.
• 2016 Looking for a new maintainer.
• Still looking
• Nano leaves GNU in 2.6.0
• Debian acknowledged and accepted the change.
• Come back to GNU in 2.7.0.
• Latest release August 2, 2022.

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• Firefox 106 is out!
• .pdf support keeps getting better and better
• private browsing shortcut
• Firefox view

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  • EViL keybindings could be an option for Emacs if you are used to Vi/Vim. Thanks for the tip!
• JonG (Email)
  • Glad you caught your shout out and are enjoying the podcast. We're still fans of the SK Hynix stuff too.
• Ryan (Email)
  • Thanks for the Gentoo tips. I am sure we will get to it sometime soon-ish. We appreciate your feedback and are glad you are enjoying the show.

Community Focus

• The Ransomware Files

App Focus

Warp

Next Time

We will discuss Kali Linux and the history.

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Coming up in this episode

1. We look to the past
2. We look to the present
3. And we look to the future

Banter - Stay Tuned

• We are taking a break but we will be back soon (a couple of months). We plan to keep our livestreams going on twitch. Watch our socials and linuxuserspace.show
• We look back at our season

Fedora 36 is coming

• The very busy schedule
• Blocker Bug Tracking
• Freeze Exception Bugs
• Gnome 42 will be in there

Ubuntu 22.04 is also coming

• Testing tracker
• 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish proposed release schedule
• Draft 22.04 Release Notes
• omg!ubuntu!'s coverage of the accent colors
• Triple Buffering Patch
• New Logo

Phishing for the Experienced

• Post from mr.d0x
• Bleeping Computer article

Feedback

Levsky via YouTube - Slackware

• Is it good to learn for professional advancement? Listen to our thoughts.

Peter via YouTube - on past episodes

• We moved YouTube channels some time ago.
• We plan to post "reruns" during the offseason while we upload past episodes. Watch the playlists on our channel for updates.
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Lioh via Email - on Proper Slacking

• slackpkg hook to help with kernel upgrades
• wget https://linuxkurs.ch/kurs/zlookkernel.sh -O /usr/libexec/slackpkg/functions.d/zlookkernel.sh
• chmod +x /usr/libexec/slackpkg/functions.d/zlookkernel.sh
• Lioh's Open Source Linux course (for beginners!) based on Slackware (in German)

CubicleNate via Patreon - on Xfree86 transition

• Xfree86
• X.Org

Larry via Email - on KDE Plasma

• KDE Plasma
• Manjaro
• MX Linux
• Linux Mint
• Linux Saloon
• Ghostery Browser

Eric via Matrix - on the Framework Laptop

• Framework Laptop

Aris via Discord - on Distro Benefits

• Building Void packages from source
• AUR Packages
• Slackbuilds

Housekeeping

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App Focus

Metadata Cleaner

We look back at the great apps

• Dan - FreshRSS, Kid3, Quickemu
• Leo - Nextcloud, FreshRSS, Firefox Multi-account Containers

Next Time

We return from our break. Our first show back will be a topic show. We have some things we anticipate we will be covering throughout the season, Leo's Framework Laptop, My SteamDeck, Leo's Pinephone.

Ubuntu 22.04 LTS in Season 3 Episode 2

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