• The New XFWindow Lanager
• A New WebKid on the Block
• And a little food for the trolls

0:00 Cold Open
2:23 The XF Window Lanager
17:09 A New WebKid on the Block
41:13 Feeding the Trolls 😉
41:53 @queenkjuul
45:59 @KnoochyPoochy
48:24 @dluckie747
51:06 @schemage2210
1:00:54 @sinisterdesign
1:08:01 Next Time
1:11:21 Stinger

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• Register article about Just The Browser
• Servo Browser

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Feedback

@queenkjuul (on the WinBoat segment)

• photoshop "runs" but recent versions (2022+) dont actually work

@KnoochyPoochy (On the Gentoo year checkin)

• Spoiler: Gentoo sucks.

@dluckie747 (On the Gentoo year checkin)

• can yall do an update to this?

@schemage2210 (On the new Mozilla CEO segment)

• Is a little skeptical about Mozilla changing their ways and about their focus on the browser.

@sinisterdesign (On the new Mozilla CEO segment)

• "Cautiously optimistic" is not the overwhelming majority attitude that you think it is.

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we intend to cover the history of YaST in a future episode.

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• We strum some reverberations
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Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
2:05 Go to lus.sh
8:38 Fed Up with Ubuntu?
14:20 * Forced Snaps
21:24 * Ads in the Terminal
27:00 * Telemetry?!
29:42 * Ubuntu is Anti-Freedom?
32:21 * Maybe use Linux Mint
34:43 Browser Watch
34:57 * The Vivaldi Flatpak
39:49 * Vivaldi on iOS
42:54 * iOS May Go WebKit Free
47:53 Reverb Focus
48:05 * Ian
53:13 * Dan!
58:26 * TeamLinux01
1:03:16 Community Focus: SteamDeckHQ
1:10:54 Gentoo Focus #5
1:23:46 Next Time: Gnome History
1:26:54 Stinger

lus.sh

• .sh is a common Shell Script file extension
• .sh is the first two letters in "show" like its bigger domain name brother
• .sh is also the first two letters in "short"

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Why Do We Still Use Ubuntu?

• TLDR we(Leo and Dan) don't mind some of the choices Ubuntu has made but we can appreciate that there are good alternatives for those that want to go a different way.

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Browser Watch!

Vivaldi on Flatpak is Officially Unofficial

• Vivaldi Flatpak on Flathub
• OMGUbuntu coverage

Vivaldi is also on iOS

• Vivaldi is on iOS
• It has great features
• The Chromium devs are developing a Blink version for iOS
• Firefox devs are developing a Gecko version for iOS

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Reverb Focus

Ian comments on YouTube about Ed

• You can see the comments on this video

Dan commented about Xfce history, Manjaro and KDE Plasma

• You can watch our Xfce history on YouTube Or TILvids

TeamLinux01 wants to hear about Valve's Linux journey

• Thanks for the feedback. I think this might just be the push we needed to look into the history of Steam and Linux. We're both big fans so it makes sense.

Community Focus - Steamdeck HQ

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Gentoo Focus

• Last time on LUS Streaming Live
  • FYI we do these live on Twitch the day after an episode is released.

Next Time

We plan to explore and provide the history of Gnome Desktop Environment.

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• A little Musing on CDE
• A few answers from the man himself
• The history of XFce
• How it went
• And a new journey

0:00 Cold Open
1:29 Ask Olivier
20:04 Xfce History: In the Beginning (1996)
22:08 Enter XFce (1997)
24:47 The XForms Problem (1998)
25:56 The Third (1999)
29:32 The Fourth (2001-2015)
32:59 The Third, Again (2016-2023)
36:22 More Questions!
45:50 How'd Xfce Go?
1:02:25 Next Time
1:09:45 Stinger

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The History of Xfce

• Olivier Fourdan posted a question to a few newsgroups that got things started.
• XForms toolkit
• An early release announcement - 2.3.0
• Changelog for 2.4.0 which shows changes all the way back to the beginning.
• XFce 2.4 User Guide
• XFce 3.2 User Guide
• 2000 Interview - 10 Questions with Olivier Fourdan
• 2001 Interview
• XFce 4.0 announcement September 25th 2003
• xfce goes all lowercase
• 2007 Interview
• 2009 Linux Journal Interview
• 2009 Slashgear Interview
• 2017 Interview with Sean Davis
• Xfce 4.4 - 4.18

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1. XFace gets a new face
2. CentOS rocks your world
3. Mozilla Watch
4. We wish upon a star
5. And we think inside the box

Preshow

• Wowstick 1F on Amazon

XFCE 4.14 --> 4.16

• Official Announcement
• Official Tour, highlighting the new color palette
• https://9to5linux.com/xfce-4-16-desktop-environment-officially-released-this-is-whats-new
• TL;DR - Fractional scaling. New Icons. Cleaned up dialogs and settings menus.

CentOS Linux announcement

• CentOS
• Official Announcement
• Old "Rough" Timeline
  • Fedora --> wait some years --> Centos Stream --> wait a few weeks --> RHEL --> wait some more time --> Centos
• New "Rough" Timeline
  • Fedora --> wait some years --> Centos Stream --> wait a few weeks --> RHEL
• Rocky Linux
• Project Lenix
• Oracle Linux

Mozilla Watch...

• Visual refresh meta bug AKA proton --> photon
  • https://www.techradar.com/news/get-ready-for-a-radical-firefox-redesign
  • https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/
  • https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/01/firefox-proton/

Wishlist for 2021

• Dan
  • I think the Pine 64 future looks good. My wish is that the time frame is closer to the 6 month range for the next gen stuff to start to materialize.
  • Intel gets their new graphics stack rolled out for laptops.
• Leo
  • Pine/Pi Moar Cores! Enthusiast server platform.
  • Firefox becomes a major player again. Nature abhors a monoculture.
• Joe
  • My long suffering 4k laptop screen woes remedied (installers that support Hidpi)
  • RPi sata or M.2 ports (even MMC)

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We discuss January's distro of the month, Solus

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