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    <title>Linux User Space - Episodes Tagged with “Thundermail”</title>
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  <title>Episode 5:10: Handle With Care</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we discuss the Thundermail announcement and the history of Flatpaks.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Thunder rolls&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We flatten out the History&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And Package Up Our Experience&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!&lt;br&gt;
23:21 The History of Flatpak&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;24:32 From Glick to Bundles&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Video Version&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Thundermail&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Thundermail announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;This program was made possible by:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️&lt;a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️&lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And by contributions to your L-U-S station by &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patrons&lt;/a&gt; like you 😍&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;The history of flatpak packages&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Autopackage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Listaller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;AppStream&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The roots&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Klik&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Rethinking the Linux distribution&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Flatpak 4 years in&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Goodbye xdg-app, hello &lt;a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Flatpak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Initial Flatpak press release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;KDE's Discover found its &lt;a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;support of Flatpak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Firefox begins Flatpak builds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;OBS begins Flatpak builds too&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Thunderbird gets official support&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣More Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt; OR jump on over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;open forum on Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Extra Flatpak Resources&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🧹Housekeeping🧹&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗞️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📱 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🔭Next Time🔭&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We plan to cover more topics and feedback.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visaggio &amp;amp; Co&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;--verbose&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LqLarry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MarshMan&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GrouchyM&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A.J.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amanita&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backshift6090&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FrozenGorilla&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hausken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jeff3ix&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rotted Mood&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Saigoneer &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Thunder rolls</li>
<li>We flatten out the History</li>
<li>And Package Up Our Experience</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!<br>
23:21 The History of Flatpak</p>

<ul>
<li>24:32 From Glick to Bundles</li>
<li>29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app</li>
<li>30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener">The Video Version</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener">https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U</a></p>

<h2>Thundermail</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow noopener">Thundermail announcement</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The history of flatpak packages</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">Autopackage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow noopener">Listaller</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow noopener">AppStream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow noopener">The roots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener">Klik</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow noopener">Rethinking the Linux distribution</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatpak 4 years in</a></li>
<li>Goodbye xdg-app, hello <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Initial Flatpak press release</a></li>
<li>KDE's Discover found its <a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow noopener">support of Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow noopener">Firefox begins Flatpak builds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow noopener">OBS begins Flatpak builds too</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow noopener">Thunderbird gets official support</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Extra Flatpak Resources</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow noopener">https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Thunder rolls</li>
<li>We flatten out the History</li>
<li>And Package Up Our Experience</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!<br>
23:21 The History of Flatpak</p>

<ul>
<li>24:32 From Glick to Bundles</li>
<li>29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app</li>
<li>30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener">The Video Version</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener">https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U</a></p>

<h2>Thundermail</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow noopener">Thundermail announcement</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The history of flatpak packages</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">Autopackage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow noopener">Listaller</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow noopener">AppStream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow noopener">The roots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener">Klik</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow noopener">Rethinking the Linux distribution</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatpak 4 years in</a></li>
<li>Goodbye xdg-app, hello <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Initial Flatpak press release</a></li>
<li>KDE's Discover found its <a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow noopener">support of Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow noopener">Firefox begins Flatpak builds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow noopener">OBS begins Flatpak builds too</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow noopener">Thunderbird gets official support</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Extra Flatpak Resources</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow noopener">https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemmy</a></li>
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</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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