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    <title>Linux User Space - Episodes Tagged with “Thunderbird”</title>
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  <title>Episode 5:10: Handle With Care</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we discuss the Thundermail announcement and the history of Flatpaks.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Thunder rolls&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We flatten out the History&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And Package Up Our Experience&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!&lt;br&gt;
23:21 The History of Flatpak&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;24:32 From Glick to Bundles&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Video Version&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Thundermail&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Thundermail announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;This program was made possible by:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️&lt;a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️&lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And by contributions to your L-U-S station by &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patrons&lt;/a&gt; like you 😍&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;The history of flatpak packages&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Autopackage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Listaller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;AppStream&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The roots&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Klik&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Rethinking the Linux distribution&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Flatpak 4 years in&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Goodbye xdg-app, hello &lt;a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Flatpak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Initial Flatpak press release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;KDE's Discover found its &lt;a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;support of Flatpak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Firefox begins Flatpak builds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;OBS begins Flatpak builds too&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Thunderbird gets official support&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣More Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt; OR jump on over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;open forum on Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Extra Flatpak Resources&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🧹Housekeeping🧹&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗞️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📱 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🔭Next Time🔭&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We plan to cover more topics and feedback.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visaggio &amp;amp; Co&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;--verbose&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LqLarry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MarshMan&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GrouchyM&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A.J.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amanita&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backshift6090&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FrozenGorilla&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hausken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jeff3ix&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rotted Mood&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Saigoneer &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Thunder rolls</li>
<li>We flatten out the History</li>
<li>And Package Up Our Experience</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!<br>
23:21 The History of Flatpak</p>

<ul>
<li>24:32 From Glick to Bundles</li>
<li>29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app</li>
<li>30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener">The Video Version</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener">https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U</a></p>

<h2>Thundermail</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow noopener">Thundermail announcement</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The history of flatpak packages</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">Autopackage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow noopener">Listaller</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow noopener">AppStream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow noopener">The roots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener">Klik</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow noopener">Rethinking the Linux distribution</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatpak 4 years in</a></li>
<li>Goodbye xdg-app, hello <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Initial Flatpak press release</a></li>
<li>KDE's Discover found its <a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow noopener">support of Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow noopener">Firefox begins Flatpak builds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow noopener">OBS begins Flatpak builds too</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow noopener">Thunderbird gets official support</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Extra Flatpak Resources</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow noopener">https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Thunder rolls</li>
<li>We flatten out the History</li>
<li>And Package Up Our Experience</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!<br>
23:21 The History of Flatpak</p>

<ul>
<li>24:32 From Glick to Bundles</li>
<li>29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app</li>
<li>30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener">The Video Version</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow noopener">https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U</a></p>

<h2>Thundermail</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow noopener">Thundermail announcement</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The history of flatpak packages</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">Autopackage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow noopener">Listaller</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow noopener">AppStream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow noopener">The roots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener">Klik</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow noopener">Rethinking the Linux distribution</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatpak 4 years in</a></li>
<li>Goodbye xdg-app, hello <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Initial Flatpak press release</a></li>
<li>KDE's Discover found its <a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow noopener">support of Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow noopener">Firefox begins Flatpak builds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow noopener">OBS begins Flatpak builds too</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow noopener">Thunderbird gets official support</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Extra Flatpak Resources</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow noopener">https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 5:05: Version Not Supported</title>
  <link>https://www.linuxuserspace.show/505</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:author>Linux User Space</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>We spend some time picking out topics, then dive into the show. We had y2k, y2038, but are you ready for y292B? Swap to 128-bit integers to find out! Then, Mozilla drops another layoff bomb. On the bright side, soon there'll only be Firefox employees left! Success! And, of course, lots of feedback.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;2 be or y292B?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Set your watch to Mozilla&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And we FINALLY get back to ya&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
2:35 libfuse2 &amp;amp; Y292B&lt;br&gt;
15:09 Mozilla Alt Text &amp;amp; Layoffs&lt;br&gt;
37:35 Pjolt on Thunderbird &amp;amp; iOS&lt;br&gt;
45:20 Chris Recommends an Android&lt;br&gt;
49:34 Chaos-r3v says it's FreeBSD&lt;br&gt;
58:51 Stan Wonders: Mint or Ubuntu?&lt;br&gt;
1:04:35 Next Time!&lt;br&gt;
1:06:45 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Video Version!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Preshow&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If your podcatcher made you feel like you have deja vu for episode 5:04, you probably were correct. We had a little mixup on the upload. Just delete the bad episode and re-download. You can verify the episode here - &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/504" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://linuxuserspace.show/504&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;This program was made possible by:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️&lt;a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️&lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And by contributions to your L-U-S station by &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patrons&lt;/a&gt; like you 😍&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🔥Warm Up🔥&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Our Appimage video has outdated instructions. Ubuntu renamed the &lt;code&gt;libfuse2&lt;/code&gt; package to &lt;code&gt;libfuse2t64&lt;/code&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;More information on the &lt;a href="https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/FUSE" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;AppImageKit wiki page&lt;/a&gt; about the correct Fuse packages for your distribution.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣More Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt; OR jump on over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;open forum on Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Mozilla Watch&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mozilla is using AI to help &lt;a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/help-us-improve-our-alt-text-generation-model/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;improve alt text generation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mozilla announce a huge &lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/5/24289124/mozilla-foundation-layoffs-advocacy-global-programs" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;30 percent layoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🧹Housekeeping🧹&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗞️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📱 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Feedback&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Pjolt - Thunderbird for iOS?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/thunderbird-for-iphone-and-ipad/idc-p/55779/highlight/true#M32691" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Thunderbird is in the roadmap for iOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Chris - Which Android device?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a href="https://swappa.com/buy/google-pixel-7a" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Pixel&lt;/a&gt; has Chris's vote.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Chaos-r3v - Juniper Network switches&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At least under the hood &lt;a href="https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/junos-install-upgrade/topics/topic-map/junos-os-overview.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Junos OS is based on FreeBSD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Stan - Multiple Operating Systems on the same hardware&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;It is posssible to &lt;a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;dualboot Ubuntu&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.learnlinux.tv/how-to-dual-boot-windows-11-linux-mint-step-by-step-guide/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Linux Mint&lt;/a&gt; or just about any Linux distribution.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;As far as which distribution is best, that really depends on you and what works best in your mind.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🔭Next Time🔭&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We plan to cover the history episode of &lt;a href="https://snapcraft.io/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Snap Packages&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt M.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visaggio &amp;amp; Co&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;--verbose&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MarshMan&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GrouchyM&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pjol&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A.J.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backshift6090&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FrozenGorilla&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hausken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jeff3ix&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rotted Mood&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Saigoneer &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>LUS, Linux User Space, Leo Chavez, Dan Simmons, Mozilla, Firefox, Thunderbird, Android, iOS, Appimage, Juniper, Dual Boot</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>2 be or y292B?</li>
<li>Set your watch to Mozilla</li>
<li>And we FINALLY get back to ya</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
2:35 libfuse2 &amp; Y292B<br>
15:09 Mozilla Alt Text &amp; Layoffs<br>
37:35 Pjolt on Thunderbird &amp; iOS<br>
45:20 Chris Recommends an Android<br>
49:34 Chaos-r3v says it's FreeBSD<br>
58:51 Stan Wonders: Mint or Ubuntu?<br>
1:04:35 Next Time!<br>
1:06:45 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0" rel="nofollow noopener">The Video Version!</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0</a></p>

<h2>Preshow</h2>

<ul>
<li>If your podcatcher made you feel like you have deja vu for episode 5:04, you probably were correct. We had a little mixup on the upload. Just delete the bad episode and re-download. You can verify the episode here - <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/504" rel="nofollow noopener">https://linuxuserspace.show/504</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>🔥Warm Up🔥</h2>

<ul>
<li>Our Appimage video has outdated instructions. Ubuntu renamed the <code>libfuse2</code> package to <code>libfuse2t64</code>.</li>
<li>More information on the <a href="https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/FUSE" rel="nofollow noopener">AppImageKit wiki page</a> about the correct Fuse packages for your distribution.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Mozilla Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li>Mozilla is using AI to help <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/help-us-improve-our-alt-text-generation-model/" rel="nofollow noopener">improve alt text generation</a></li>
<li>Mozilla announce a huge <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/5/24289124/mozilla-foundation-layoffs-advocacy-global-programs" rel="nofollow noopener">30 percent layoff</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h3>Pjolt - Thunderbird for iOS?</h3>

<p><a href="https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/thunderbird-for-iphone-and-ipad/idc-p/55779/highlight/true#M32691" rel="nofollow noopener">Thunderbird is in the roadmap for iOS</a></p>

<h3>Chris - Which Android device?</h3>

<p>The <a href="https://swappa.com/buy/google-pixel-7a" rel="nofollow noopener">Pixel</a> has Chris's vote.</p>

<h3>Chaos-r3v - Juniper Network switches</h3>

<p>At least under the hood <a href="https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/junos-install-upgrade/topics/topic-map/junos-os-overview.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Junos OS is based on FreeBSD</a></p>

<h3>Stan - Multiple Operating Systems on the same hardware</h3>

<ul>
<li>It is posssible to <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot" rel="nofollow noopener">dualboot Ubuntu</a> and <a href="https://www.learnlinux.tv/how-to-dual-boot-windows-11-linux-mint-step-by-step-guide/" rel="nofollow noopener">Linux Mint</a> or just about any Linux distribution.</li>
<li>As far as which distribution is best, that really depends on you and what works best in your mind.</li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover the history episode of <a href="https://snapcraft.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Snap Packages</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Matt M.</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>2 be or y292B?</li>
<li>Set your watch to Mozilla</li>
<li>And we FINALLY get back to ya</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
2:35 libfuse2 &amp; Y292B<br>
15:09 Mozilla Alt Text &amp; Layoffs<br>
37:35 Pjolt on Thunderbird &amp; iOS<br>
45:20 Chris Recommends an Android<br>
49:34 Chaos-r3v says it's FreeBSD<br>
58:51 Stan Wonders: Mint or Ubuntu?<br>
1:04:35 Next Time!<br>
1:06:45 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0" rel="nofollow noopener">The Video Version!</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0</a></p>

<h2>Preshow</h2>

<ul>
<li>If your podcatcher made you feel like you have deja vu for episode 5:04, you probably were correct. We had a little mixup on the upload. Just delete the bad episode and re-download. You can verify the episode here - <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/504" rel="nofollow noopener">https://linuxuserspace.show/504</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>🔥Warm Up🔥</h2>

<ul>
<li>Our Appimage video has outdated instructions. Ubuntu renamed the <code>libfuse2</code> package to <code>libfuse2t64</code>.</li>
<li>More information on the <a href="https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/FUSE" rel="nofollow noopener">AppImageKit wiki page</a> about the correct Fuse packages for your distribution.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Mozilla Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li>Mozilla is using AI to help <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/help-us-improve-our-alt-text-generation-model/" rel="nofollow noopener">improve alt text generation</a></li>
<li>Mozilla announce a huge <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/5/24289124/mozilla-foundation-layoffs-advocacy-global-programs" rel="nofollow noopener">30 percent layoff</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h3>Pjolt - Thunderbird for iOS?</h3>

<p><a href="https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/thunderbird-for-iphone-and-ipad/idc-p/55779/highlight/true#M32691" rel="nofollow noopener">Thunderbird is in the roadmap for iOS</a></p>

<h3>Chris - Which Android device?</h3>

<p>The <a href="https://swappa.com/buy/google-pixel-7a" rel="nofollow noopener">Pixel</a> has Chris's vote.</p>

<h3>Chaos-r3v - Juniper Network switches</h3>

<p>At least under the hood <a href="https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/junos-install-upgrade/topics/topic-map/junos-os-overview.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Junos OS is based on FreeBSD</a></p>

<h3>Stan - Multiple Operating Systems on the same hardware</h3>

<ul>
<li>It is posssible to <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot" rel="nofollow noopener">dualboot Ubuntu</a> and <a href="https://www.learnlinux.tv/how-to-dual-boot-windows-11-linux-mint-step-by-step-guide/" rel="nofollow noopener">Linux Mint</a> or just about any Linux distribution.</li>
<li>As far as which distribution is best, that really depends on you and what works best in your mind.</li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover the history episode of <a href="https://snapcraft.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Snap Packages</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Matt M.</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 5:03: Just Wing It More</title>
  <link>https://www.linuxuserspace.show/503</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e78a2140-b820-478c-9506-054f2b7e2de2/de01d88d-0ef6-4af5-8b1a-4d984f32a6dc.mp3" length="50661015" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Linux User Space</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we cover the Internet Archive going down, Thunderbird on Android beta, and the latest Ubuntu and flavors release 24.10.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:09:10</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e78a2140-b820-478c-9506-054f2b7e2de2/episodes/d/de01d88d-0ef6-4af5-8b1a-4d984f32a6dc/cover.jpg?v=2"/>
  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Archive Gets Downed&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Thunderbird Goes Mobile&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;and the Oriole Takes Flight&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:44 Panic at the Archive!&lt;br&gt;
20:00 Thunderbird's On Android&lt;br&gt;
43:11 Ubuntu's Out, We're In&lt;br&gt;
1:05:15 Next Time&lt;br&gt;
1:08:18 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Video Version!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Warm Up&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Internet Archive suffers a &lt;a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-archive-hacked-data-breach-impacts-31-million-users/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;DDoS attack and breach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;This program was made possible by:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️&lt;a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️&lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And by contributions to your L-U-S station by &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patrons&lt;/a&gt; like you 😍&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Thunderbird for Android&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/09/help-us-test-the-thunderbird-for-android-beta/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Beta announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/thunderbird-android-client-is-k-9-mail-reborn-and-its-in-solid-beta/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;arsTechnica article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/09/thunderbird_for_android_beta/?td=rt-3a" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Register article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣More Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt; OR jump on over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;open forum on Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Ubuntu and flavors release 24.10&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-ubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ubuntu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Kubuntu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lubuntu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ubuntubudgie.org/2024/10/ubuntu-budgie-24-10-release-notes/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ubuntu Budgie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-oracular-oriole-release-notes/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ubuntu Mate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/edubuntu-24-10-released/48647" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Edubuntu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ubuntustudio.org/2024/10/ubuntu-studio-24-10-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ubuntu Studio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ubuntucinnamon.org/?p=1348" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ubuntu Cinnamon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ubuntuunity.org/posts/ubuntu-unity-2410-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ubuntu Unity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.ubuntukylin.com/news/ubuntukylin2410-en.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ubuntu Kylin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-24-10-released/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Xubuntu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Canonical's new &lt;a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/08/canonical-announce-major-ubuntu-kernel-change" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Kernel selection policy explained&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stay tuned, &lt;a href="https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-all-tasks.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Fedora 41 is coming soon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🧹Housekeeping🧹&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗞️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📱 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🔭Next Time🔭&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We plan to cover the history of &lt;a href="https://snapcraft.io/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Snap Packages&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visaggio &amp;amp; Co&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;--verbose&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MarshMan&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GrouchyM&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pjol&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A.J.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backshift6090&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FrozenGorilla&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hausken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jeff3ix&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rotted Mood&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Archive Gets Downed</li>
<li>Thunderbird Goes Mobile</li>
<li>and the Oriole Takes Flight</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:44 Panic at the Archive!<br>
20:00 Thunderbird's On Android<br>
43:11 Ubuntu's Out, We're In<br>
1:05:15 Next Time<br>
1:08:18 Stinger</p>

<p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI" rel="nofollow noopener">The Video Version!</a></strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI" rel="nofollow noopener">https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI</a></p>

<h2>Warm Up</h2>

<ul>
<li>The Internet Archive suffers a <a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-archive-hacked-data-breach-impacts-31-million-users/" rel="nofollow noopener">DDoS attack and breach</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Thunderbird for Android</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/09/help-us-test-the-thunderbird-for-android-beta/" rel="nofollow noopener">Beta announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/thunderbird-android-client-is-k-9-mail-reborn-and-its-in-solid-beta/" rel="nofollow noopener">arsTechnica article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/09/thunderbird_for_android_beta/?td=rt-3a" rel="nofollow noopener">The Register article</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Ubuntu and flavors release 24.10</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-ubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Kubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Lubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntubudgie.org/2024/10/ubuntu-budgie-24-10-release-notes/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Budgie</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-oracular-oriole-release-notes/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Mate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/edubuntu-24-10-released/48647" rel="nofollow noopener">Edubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntustudio.org/2024/10/ubuntu-studio-24-10-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Studio</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntucinnamon.org/?p=1348" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Cinnamon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntuunity.org/posts/ubuntu-unity-2410-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Unity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ubuntukylin.com/news/ubuntukylin2410-en.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Kylin</a></li>
<li><a href="https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-24-10-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Xubuntu</a></li>
<li>Canonical's new <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/08/canonical-announce-major-ubuntu-kernel-change" rel="nofollow noopener">Kernel selection policy explained</a></li>
<li>Stay tuned, <a href="https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-all-tasks.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Fedora 41 is coming soon</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover the history of <a href="https://snapcraft.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Snap Packages</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Archive Gets Downed</li>
<li>Thunderbird Goes Mobile</li>
<li>and the Oriole Takes Flight</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:44 Panic at the Archive!<br>
20:00 Thunderbird's On Android<br>
43:11 Ubuntu's Out, We're In<br>
1:05:15 Next Time<br>
1:08:18 Stinger</p>

<p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI" rel="nofollow noopener">The Video Version!</a></strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI" rel="nofollow noopener">https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI</a></p>

<h2>Warm Up</h2>

<ul>
<li>The Internet Archive suffers a <a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-archive-hacked-data-breach-impacts-31-million-users/" rel="nofollow noopener">DDoS attack and breach</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow noopener">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Thunderbird for Android</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/09/help-us-test-the-thunderbird-for-android-beta/" rel="nofollow noopener">Beta announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/thunderbird-android-client-is-k-9-mail-reborn-and-its-in-solid-beta/" rel="nofollow noopener">arsTechnica article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/09/thunderbird_for_android_beta/?td=rt-3a" rel="nofollow noopener">The Register article</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow noopener">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Ubuntu and flavors release 24.10</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-ubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Kubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Lubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntubudgie.org/2024/10/ubuntu-budgie-24-10-release-notes/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Budgie</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-oracular-oriole-release-notes/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Mate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/edubuntu-24-10-released/48647" rel="nofollow noopener">Edubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntustudio.org/2024/10/ubuntu-studio-24-10-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Studio</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntucinnamon.org/?p=1348" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Cinnamon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntuunity.org/posts/ubuntu-unity-2410-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Unity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ubuntukylin.com/news/ubuntukylin2410-en.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Ubuntu Kylin</a></li>
<li><a href="https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-24-10-released/" rel="nofollow noopener">Xubuntu</a></li>
<li>Canonical's new <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/08/canonical-announce-major-ubuntu-kernel-change" rel="nofollow noopener">Kernel selection policy explained</a></li>
<li>Stay tuned, <a href="https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-all-tasks.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Fedora 41 is coming soon</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow noopener">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow noopener">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow noopener">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow noopener">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover the history of <a href="https://snapcraft.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Snap Packages</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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