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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* Death, DEATH, everywhere
* Not so bloated, now, is it?
* and Someone Agrees with US!
0:00 Cold Open
1:35 Mozilla's Making Changes... Again
24:31 Disks Hate This One Weird Trick!
54:32 The Last of the Season 5 Feedback
-54:42 VesuLabs
-1:03:02 stephenreaves3205
1:12:16 Next Time &amp;amp; Farewell (For Now)
1:17:38 Stinger
The Video Version!
https://youtu.be/3nbdwkgpTRA
Mozilla Watch 👀
Pocket and Fakespot are out. (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/)
Readeck is a Pocket alternative (https://readeck.org/en/) Currently it is self-hosted but they are looking to add a hosted option.
Karakeep is another alternative. (https://karakeep.app/)
Profiles are coming soon. (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/shifting-left-for-better-accessibility/)
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
* 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace)
* 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
The Season Conclusion of our Flatpak/Snap adventure
The numbers
```
MacOS    App
666MB    Brave
451MB    Discord
651MB    Element
436MB    Firefox
873MB    GIMP
628MB    Inkscape
553MB    Kdenlive
451MB    OBS
303MB    Telegram


Windows  App
873MB    Brave
468MB    Discord
1.05GB   Element
262MB    Firefox
963MB    GIMP
562MB    Inkscape
1.02GB   Kdenlive
394MB    OBS
215MB    Telegram


Ubuntu  Snap
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/bare5.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave509.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave511.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core221908.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core221963.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24888.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24988.snap
68M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/cups1100.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/desktop-security-center59.snap
111M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord239.snap
115M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord240.snap
172M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/element-desktop148.snap
62M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ffmpeg-240459.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox6159.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox6198.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firmware-updater167.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp517.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp519.snap
517M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-42-2204202.snap
405M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-46-240490.snap
92M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gtk-common-themes1535.snap
339M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/inkscape10823.snap
64M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive119.snap
319M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive120.snap
1.4G    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kf6-core2427.snap
208M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/mesa-2404495.snap
576M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/obs-studio1302.snap
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/partial
15M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/prompting-client104.snap
45M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd23771.snap
51M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd24505.snap
568K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd-desktop-integration253.snap
11M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snap-store1270.snap
446M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop6597.snap
454M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop6639.snap


Fedora   Flatpak
443 MB   Brave
278 MB   Discord
540 MB   OBS Studio
477 MB   Element
 17 MB   TAP-plugins
 19 MB   SWH
675 MB   Freedesktop Platform
538 MB   Mesa
538 MB   Mesa (Extra)
463 MB   Mesa
463 MB   Mesa (Extra)
 30 MB   FFmpeg extension with extra codecs
790 kB   openh264
789 kB   openh264
256 MB   GNU Image Manipulation Program
  8 MB   HEIC
  1 GB   GNOME Application Platform version 48
275 MB   Inkscape
 20 MB   Adwaita theme
926 MB   KDE Application Platform
  1 GB   KDE Application Platform
 25 MB   QGnomePlatform
  3 MB   QAdwaitaDecorations
241 MB   Kdenlive
282 MB   Firefox
256 MB   Telegram
124 MB   Telegram Desktop Webview Add-on
```
5.0GB MacOS
5.8GB Windows
6.6GB Flatpak
7.0GB Snap, ~6.0GB without old versions + compression
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Feedback
VesuLabs via email
Thanks for the feedback on AI bug reporting and Rust in the kernel.
stephenreaves3205 via YouTube
if they spin off Chrome, would they also spin off ChromeOS?  Or maybe just rebrand it?
* The roadmap for ChromeOS is to become Android (https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-becoming-android-3500661/)
🧹Housekeeping🧹
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
* 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon)
* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
* 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky)
🔭Next Time, Next Season🔭
We plan to cover more topics, feedback.
Watch out for our return! Watch for our livestream announcements. 
Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
Dave
John
Visaggio &amp;amp; Co
Co-Producer
--verbose
LqLarry
MarshMan
GrouchyM
Tim
Super User
A.J.
Advait
Amanita
Backshift6090
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
FrozenGorilla
Hausken
Jeff3ix
Jefferson
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Mick
Nicholas
Rotted Mood
sleepyeyesvince
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Death, DEATH, everywhere</li>
<li>Not so bloated, now, is it?</li>
<li>and Someone Agrees with US!</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:35 Mozilla&#39;s Making Changes... Again<br>
24:31 Disks Hate This One Weird Trick!<br>
54:32 The Last of the Season 5 Feedback<br>
-54:42 VesuLabs<br>
-1:03:02 stephenreaves3205<br>
1:12:16 Next Time &amp; Farewell (For Now)<br>
1:17:38 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>The Video Version!<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/3nbdwkgpTRA" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/3nbdwkgpTRA</a></strong></p>

<h2>Mozilla Watch 👀</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/" rel="nofollow">Pocket and Fakespot are out.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://readeck.org/en/" rel="nofollow">Readeck is a Pocket alternative</a> Currently it is self-hosted but they are looking to add a hosted option.</li>
<li><a href="https://karakeep.app/" rel="nofollow">Karakeep is another alternative.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/shifting-left-for-better-accessibility/" rel="nofollow">Profiles are coming soon.</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2><em>The Season</em> Conclusion of our Flatpak/Snap adventure</h2>

<h3>The numbers</h3>

<pre><code>MacOS    App
-----------------
666MB    Brave
451MB    Discord
651MB    Element
436MB    Firefox
873MB    GIMP
628MB    Inkscape
553MB    Kdenlive
451MB    OBS
303MB    Telegram
</code></pre>

<pre><code>Windows  App
-----------------
873MB    Brave
468MB    Discord
1.05GB   Element
262MB    Firefox
963MB    GIMP
562MB    Inkscape
1.02GB   Kdenlive
394MB    OBS
215MB    Telegram
</code></pre>

<pre><code>Ubuntu  Snap
-----------------
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/bare_5.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave_509.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave_511.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core22_1908.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core22_1963.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24_888.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24_988.snap
68M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/cups_1100.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/desktop-security-center_59.snap
111M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord_239.snap
115M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord_240.snap
172M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/element-desktop_148.snap
62M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ffmpeg-2404_59.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_6159.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_6198.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firmware-updater_167.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp_517.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp_519.snap
517M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-42-2204_202.snap
405M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-46-2404_90.snap
92M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gtk-common-themes_1535.snap
339M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/inkscape_10823.snap
64M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive_119.snap
319M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive_120.snap
1.4G    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kf6-core24_27.snap
208M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/mesa-2404_495.snap
576M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/obs-studio_1302.snap
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/partial
15M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/prompting-client_104.snap
45M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd_23771.snap
51M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd_24505.snap
568K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd-desktop-integration_253.snap
11M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snap-store_1270.snap
446M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop_6597.snap
454M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop_6639.snap
</code></pre>

<pre><code>Fedora   Flatpak
---------------
443 MB   Brave
278 MB   Discord
540 MB   OBS Studio
477 MB   Element
 17 MB   TAP-plugins
 19 MB   SWH
675 MB   Freedesktop Platform
538 MB   Mesa
538 MB   Mesa (Extra)
463 MB   Mesa
463 MB   Mesa (Extra)
 30 MB   FFmpeg extension with extra codecs
790 kB   openh264
789 kB   openh264
256 MB   GNU Image Manipulation Program
  8 MB   HEIC
  1 GB   GNOME Application Platform version 48
275 MB   Inkscape
 20 MB   Adwaita theme
926 MB   KDE Application Platform
  1 GB   KDE Application Platform
 25 MB   QGnomePlatform
  3 MB   QAdwaitaDecorations
241 MB   Kdenlive
282 MB   Firefox
256 MB   Telegram
124 MB   Telegram Desktop Webview Add-on
</code></pre>

<ul>
<li>5.0GB MacOS</li>
<li>5.8GB Windows</li>
<li>6.6GB Flatpak</li>
<li>7.0GB Snap, ~6.0GB without old versions + compression</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h3>VesuLabs via email</h3>

<ul>
<li>Thanks for the feedback on AI bug reporting and Rust in the kernel.</li>
</ul>

<h3>stephenreaves3205 via YouTube</h3>

<blockquote>
<p>if they spin off Chrome, would they also spin off ChromeOS?  Or maybe just rebrand it?</p>

<ul>
<li>The roadmap for ChromeOS is to become <a href="https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-becoming-android-3500661/" rel="nofollow">Android</a></li>
</ul>
</blockquote>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time, Next Season🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics, feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Watch out for our return! Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Death, DEATH, everywhere</li>
<li>Not so bloated, now, is it?</li>
<li>and Someone Agrees with US!</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:35 Mozilla&#39;s Making Changes... Again<br>
24:31 Disks Hate This One Weird Trick!<br>
54:32 The Last of the Season 5 Feedback<br>
-54:42 VesuLabs<br>
-1:03:02 stephenreaves3205<br>
1:12:16 Next Time &amp; Farewell (For Now)<br>
1:17:38 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>The Video Version!<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/3nbdwkgpTRA" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/3nbdwkgpTRA</a></strong></p>

<h2>Mozilla Watch 👀</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/" rel="nofollow">Pocket and Fakespot are out.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://readeck.org/en/" rel="nofollow">Readeck is a Pocket alternative</a> Currently it is self-hosted but they are looking to add a hosted option.</li>
<li><a href="https://karakeep.app/" rel="nofollow">Karakeep is another alternative.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/shifting-left-for-better-accessibility/" rel="nofollow">Profiles are coming soon.</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2><em>The Season</em> Conclusion of our Flatpak/Snap adventure</h2>

<h3>The numbers</h3>

<pre><code>MacOS    App
-----------------
666MB    Brave
451MB    Discord
651MB    Element
436MB    Firefox
873MB    GIMP
628MB    Inkscape
553MB    Kdenlive
451MB    OBS
303MB    Telegram
</code></pre>

<pre><code>Windows  App
-----------------
873MB    Brave
468MB    Discord
1.05GB   Element
262MB    Firefox
963MB    GIMP
562MB    Inkscape
1.02GB   Kdenlive
394MB    OBS
215MB    Telegram
</code></pre>

<pre><code>Ubuntu  Snap
-----------------
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/bare_5.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave_509.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave_511.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core22_1908.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core22_1963.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24_888.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24_988.snap
68M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/cups_1100.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/desktop-security-center_59.snap
111M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord_239.snap
115M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord_240.snap
172M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/element-desktop_148.snap
62M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ffmpeg-2404_59.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_6159.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_6198.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firmware-updater_167.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp_517.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp_519.snap
517M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-42-2204_202.snap
405M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-46-2404_90.snap
92M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gtk-common-themes_1535.snap
339M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/inkscape_10823.snap
64M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive_119.snap
319M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive_120.snap
1.4G    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kf6-core24_27.snap
208M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/mesa-2404_495.snap
576M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/obs-studio_1302.snap
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/partial
15M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/prompting-client_104.snap
45M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd_23771.snap
51M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd_24505.snap
568K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd-desktop-integration_253.snap
11M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snap-store_1270.snap
446M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop_6597.snap
454M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop_6639.snap
</code></pre>

<pre><code>Fedora   Flatpak
---------------
443 MB   Brave
278 MB   Discord
540 MB   OBS Studio
477 MB   Element
 17 MB   TAP-plugins
 19 MB   SWH
675 MB   Freedesktop Platform
538 MB   Mesa
538 MB   Mesa (Extra)
463 MB   Mesa
463 MB   Mesa (Extra)
 30 MB   FFmpeg extension with extra codecs
790 kB   openh264
789 kB   openh264
256 MB   GNU Image Manipulation Program
  8 MB   HEIC
  1 GB   GNOME Application Platform version 48
275 MB   Inkscape
 20 MB   Adwaita theme
926 MB   KDE Application Platform
  1 GB   KDE Application Platform
 25 MB   QGnomePlatform
  3 MB   QAdwaitaDecorations
241 MB   Kdenlive
282 MB   Firefox
256 MB   Telegram
124 MB   Telegram Desktop Webview Add-on
</code></pre>

<ul>
<li>5.0GB MacOS</li>
<li>5.8GB Windows</li>
<li>6.6GB Flatpak</li>
<li>7.0GB Snap, ~6.0GB without old versions + compression</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h3>VesuLabs via email</h3>

<ul>
<li>Thanks for the feedback on AI bug reporting and Rust in the kernel.</li>
</ul>

<h3>stephenreaves3205 via YouTube</h3>

<blockquote>
<p>if they spin off Chrome, would they also spin off ChromeOS?  Or maybe just rebrand it?</p>

<ul>
<li>The roadmap for ChromeOS is to become <a href="https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-becoming-android-3500661/" rel="nofollow">Android</a></li>
</ul>
</blockquote>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

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<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
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</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time, Next Season🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics, feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Watch out for our return! Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
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<li>The Saigoneer</li>
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  <title>Episode 5:13: Sloppy AI or Good Fuzzing?</title>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* AI's Won't Take Over Yet
* Is Rust Open Source?
* and All Kinds of Feedback
The Video Version
https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA
0:00 Cold Open
3:56 Curl's "AI Slop" Problem
25:12 A Little Viral Licensing
42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️
    42:30 ukwan / Youtube
    51:16 jliljj / Youtube
    56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube
    1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube
    1:02:06 amanita / Patreon
    1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube
1:09:35 The Rules, Commands &amp;amp; Next Time
1:19:12 Stinger
The Curl project pushes back on AI slop
The Ars Technica article (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/open-source-project-curl-is-sick-of-users-submitting-ai-slop-vulnerabilities/)
The Curl project on Hacker One (https://hackerone.com/curl?type=team)
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
* 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace)
* 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
Is Rust opensource?
 Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a Stackoverflow post about C language. (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5099384/is-c-open-source)
Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. license (https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/licenses)
Over the years many CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel (https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33). Many of those involve memory corruption.
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Feedback
ukwan from YouTube
Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going.
jliljj from YouTube
I'd go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn.
FredsTech1 from YouTube
Asked about unattended upgrades.
Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything.
The Ubuntu Docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates)
siljrath from YouTube
I thought I signed up.  Anyone know when thundermail happens?
Conan Kudo
In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don't have problems with Anaconda's hub-and-spoke model.
Amanita from Patreon
It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good.
redvamp128 from YouTube
You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux
It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned!
🧹Housekeeping🧹
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
* 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon)
* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
* 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky)
Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey
Leo's list of software
obs-studio
discord
telegram
element
kdenlive
gimp
inkscape
firefox
brave
Some commands to help check on sizes
flatpak list --app --columns=size,name
flatpaklist --column=size,name
du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research.
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. 
Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
Dave
John
Visaggio &amp;amp; Co
Co-Producer
--verbose
LqLarry
MarshMan
GrouchyM
Tim
Super User
A.J.
Advait
Amanita
Backshift6090
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
FrozenGorilla
Hausken
Jeff3ix
Jefferson
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Mick
Nicholas
Rotted Mood
sleepyeyesvince
The Saigoneer 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>AI&#39;s Won&#39;t Take Over Yet</li>
<li>Is Rust Open Source?</li>
<li>and All Kinds of Feedback</li>
</ul>

<p>The Video Version<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA</a></p>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
3:56 Curl&#39;s &quot;AI Slop&quot; Problem<br>
25:12 A Little Viral Licensing<br>
42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️<br>
    42:30 ukwan / Youtube<br>
    51:16 jliljj / Youtube<br>
    56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube<br>
    1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube<br>
    1:02:06 amanita / Patreon<br>
    1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube<br>
1:09:35 The Rules, Commands &amp; Next Time<br>
1:19:12 Stinger</p>

<h2>The Curl project pushes back on AI slop</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/open-source-project-curl-is-sick-of-users-submitting-ai-slop-vulnerabilities/" rel="nofollow">The Ars Technica article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hackerone.com/curl?type=team" rel="nofollow">The Curl project on Hacker One</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Is Rust opensource?</h2>

<ul>
<li> Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5099384/is-c-open-source" rel="nofollow">Stackoverflow post about C language.</a></li>
<li>Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. <a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/licenses" rel="nofollow">license</a></li>
<li>Over the years many <a href="https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33" rel="nofollow">CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel</a>. Many of those involve memory corruption.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h3>ukwan from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going.</li>
</ul>

<h3>jliljj from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>I&#39;d go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn.</li>
</ul>

<h3>FredsTech1 from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>Asked about unattended upgrades.</li>
<li>Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything.</li>
<li>The <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Docs</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>siljrath from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>I thought I signed up.  Anyone know when thundermail happens?</li>
</ul>

<h3>Conan Kudo</h3>

<ul>
<li>In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don&#39;t have problems with Anaconda&#39;s hub-and-spoke model.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Amanita from Patreon</h3>

<ul>
<li>It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good.</li>
</ul>

<h3>redvamp128 from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux</li>
<li>It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned!</li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey</h2>

<h3>Leo&#39;s list of software</h3>

<ul>
<li>obs-studio</li>
<li>discord</li>
<li>telegram</li>
<li>element</li>
<li>kdenlive</li>
<li>gimp</li>
<li>inkscape</li>
<li>firefox</li>
<li>brave</li>
</ul>

<h3>Some commands to help check on sizes</h3>

<ul>
<li><code>flatpak list --app --columns=size,name</code></li>
<li><code>flatpaklist --column=size,name</code></li>
<li><code>du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*</code></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>AI&#39;s Won&#39;t Take Over Yet</li>
<li>Is Rust Open Source?</li>
<li>and All Kinds of Feedback</li>
</ul>

<p>The Video Version<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA</a></p>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
3:56 Curl&#39;s &quot;AI Slop&quot; Problem<br>
25:12 A Little Viral Licensing<br>
42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️<br>
    42:30 ukwan / Youtube<br>
    51:16 jliljj / Youtube<br>
    56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube<br>
    1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube<br>
    1:02:06 amanita / Patreon<br>
    1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube<br>
1:09:35 The Rules, Commands &amp; Next Time<br>
1:19:12 Stinger</p>

<h2>The Curl project pushes back on AI slop</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/open-source-project-curl-is-sick-of-users-submitting-ai-slop-vulnerabilities/" rel="nofollow">The Ars Technica article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hackerone.com/curl?type=team" rel="nofollow">The Curl project on Hacker One</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Is Rust opensource?</h2>

<ul>
<li> Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5099384/is-c-open-source" rel="nofollow">Stackoverflow post about C language.</a></li>
<li>Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. <a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/licenses" rel="nofollow">license</a></li>
<li>Over the years many <a href="https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33" rel="nofollow">CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel</a>. Many of those involve memory corruption.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h3>ukwan from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going.</li>
</ul>

<h3>jliljj from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>I&#39;d go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn.</li>
</ul>

<h3>FredsTech1 from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>Asked about unattended upgrades.</li>
<li>Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything.</li>
<li>The <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Docs</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>siljrath from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>I thought I signed up.  Anyone know when thundermail happens?</li>
</ul>

<h3>Conan Kudo</h3>

<ul>
<li>In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don&#39;t have problems with Anaconda&#39;s hub-and-spoke model.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Amanita from Patreon</h3>

<ul>
<li>It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good.</li>
</ul>

<h3>redvamp128 from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux</li>
<li>It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned!</li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey</h2>

<h3>Leo&#39;s list of software</h3>

<ul>
<li>obs-studio</li>
<li>discord</li>
<li>telegram</li>
<li>element</li>
<li>kdenlive</li>
<li>gimp</li>
<li>inkscape</li>
<li>firefox</li>
<li>brave</li>
</ul>

<h3>Some commands to help check on sizes</h3>

<ul>
<li><code>flatpak list --app --columns=size,name</code></li>
<li><code>flatpaklist --column=size,name</code></li>
<li><code>du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*</code></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 5:11: Qt Vibes and a New Standard</title>
  <link>https://www.linuxuserspace.show/511</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we talk about AI in your Qt, the need for more standards, and the latest Ubuntu and Fedora releases.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* Vibe Coding Coming to a Plasma Near You
* We Need Another Standard
* The Newest of the New
0:00 Cold Open
2:01 Weird Vibes in Qt-Land
21:51 Rust Is Inevitable
41:04 Fedora, Ubuntu and a Journey
1:08:25 Next Time
1:10:24 Stinger
The Video Version (https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI)
https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI
What a Qt little AI?
Qt Blog post (https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-ai-assistant-v0.9-released-deploy-llms-locally-and-enjoy-the-upgraded-user-experience)
Phoronoix article (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qt-Increased-AI-Coding-Caps)
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
* 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace)
* 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
We need another standard
The XKCD cartoon (https://xkcd.com/927/)
The ACM paper (https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3708553)
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Ubuntu 25.04 and Fedora 42 Releases
Ubuntu 25.04 and Official Flavors release
Ubuntu Release Announcement (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-04-plucky-puffin-released/59303)
Links to the Official Flavors release notes (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/plucky-puffin-release-notes/48687#heading--official-flavours)
Fedora 42 and Spins release
Fedora 42 Release Announcement (https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42/)
Fedora Downloads (https://fedoraproject.org/#editions)
Atomic Desktops (https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/)
Spins (https://fedoraproject.org/spins)
🧹Housekeeping🧹
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
* 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon)
* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
* 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky)
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to cover our exploration of the new releases.
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. 
Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
Dave
John
Visaggio &amp;amp; Co
Co-Producer
--verbose
LqLarry
MarshMan
GrouchyM
Tim
Super User
A.J.
Advait
Amanita
Backshift6090
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
FrozenGorilla
Hausken
Jeff3ix
Jefferson
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Mick
Nicholas
Rotted Mood
sleepyeyesvince
The Saigoneer 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>LUS, Linux User Space, Leo Chavez, Dan Simmons, Qt, AI, Rust, Programming, C, C++, Ubuntu, Fedora</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Vibe Coding Coming to a Plasma Near You</li>
<li>We Need Another Standard</li>
<li>The Newest of the New</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
2:01 Weird Vibes in Qt-Land<br>
21:51 Rust Is Inevitable<br>
41:04 Fedora, Ubuntu and a Journey<br>
1:08:25 Next Time<br>
1:10:24 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI" rel="nofollow">The Video Version</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI</a></p>

<h2>What a Qt little AI?</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-ai-assistant-v0.9-released-deploy-llms-locally-and-enjoy-the-upgraded-user-experience" rel="nofollow">Qt Blog post</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qt-Increased-AI-Coding-Caps" rel="nofollow">Phoronoix article</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>We need another standard</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://xkcd.com/927/" rel="nofollow">The XKCD cartoon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3708553" rel="nofollow">The ACM paper</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Ubuntu 25.04 and Fedora 42 Releases</h2>

<h3>Ubuntu 25.04 and Official Flavors release</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-04-plucky-puffin-released/59303" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Release Announcement</a></li>
<li>Links to the <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/plucky-puffin-release-notes/48687#heading--official-flavours" rel="nofollow">Official Flavors release notes</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Fedora 42 and Spins release</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42/" rel="nofollow">Fedora 42 Release Announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/#editions" rel="nofollow">Fedora Downloads</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/" rel="nofollow">Atomic Desktops</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/spins" rel="nofollow">Spins</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover our exploration of the new releases.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Vibe Coding Coming to a Plasma Near You</li>
<li>We Need Another Standard</li>
<li>The Newest of the New</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
2:01 Weird Vibes in Qt-Land<br>
21:51 Rust Is Inevitable<br>
41:04 Fedora, Ubuntu and a Journey<br>
1:08:25 Next Time<br>
1:10:24 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI" rel="nofollow">The Video Version</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI</a></p>

<h2>What a Qt little AI?</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-ai-assistant-v0.9-released-deploy-llms-locally-and-enjoy-the-upgraded-user-experience" rel="nofollow">Qt Blog post</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qt-Increased-AI-Coding-Caps" rel="nofollow">Phoronoix article</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>We need another standard</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://xkcd.com/927/" rel="nofollow">The XKCD cartoon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3708553" rel="nofollow">The ACM paper</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Ubuntu 25.04 and Fedora 42 Releases</h2>

<h3>Ubuntu 25.04 and Official Flavors release</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-04-plucky-puffin-released/59303" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Release Announcement</a></li>
<li>Links to the <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/plucky-puffin-release-notes/48687#heading--official-flavours" rel="nofollow">Official Flavors release notes</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Fedora 42 and Spins release</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42/" rel="nofollow">Fedora 42 Release Announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/#editions" rel="nofollow">Fedora Downloads</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/" rel="nofollow">Atomic Desktops</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/spins" rel="nofollow">Spins</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover our exploration of the new releases.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
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