• The New XFWindow Lanager
• A New WebKid on the Block
• And a little food for the trolls

0:00 Cold Open
2:23 The XF Window Lanager
17:09 A New WebKid on the Block
41:13 Feeding the Trolls 😉
41:53 @queenkjuul
45:59 @KnoochyPoochy
48:24 @dluckie747
51:06 @schemage2210
1:00:54 @sinisterdesign
1:08:01 Next Time
1:11:21 Stinger

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@queenkjuul (on the WinBoat segment)

• photoshop "runs" but recent versions (2022+) dont actually work

@KnoochyPoochy (On the Gentoo year checkin)

• Spoiler: Gentoo sucks.

@dluckie747 (On the Gentoo year checkin)

• can yall do an update to this?

@schemage2210 (On the new Mozilla CEO segment)

• Is a little skeptical about Mozilla changing their ways and about their focus on the browser.

@sinisterdesign (On the new Mozilla CEO segment)

• "Cautiously optimistic" is not the overwhelming majority attitude that you think it is.

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A bit about how we've fared now that the 1.0 Cosmic Epoch is here, how things have changed, and what other goodies System76 has up their sleeve (it's a lot!). Then, we spend some time dissecting Mozilla's newest AI move. It turns out, if you dig deep enough, there's still hope, contrary to the wildly hot-take style news about things so far. And our final topic, Snapscope, a way to scan your Snaps for vulnerabilities, but then end up chatting way more about Snaps in general.

There's also a bit of SteamThing errata we need to cover before ending it all on a high note for the holidays.

Hope you enjoy and we'll see you soon. Happy holidays!

Coming up in this episode

• The stars have aligned for a release
• The top fox is on fire
• Set your scope on snap
• and a wee bit of feedback

0:00 Cold Open
3:44 Cosmic's Epic Epoch
33:52 New CEO, New Mozilla?
1:06:38 360 SnapScope
1:28:31 Errata + Next Time!
1:37:40 Stinger

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--verbose in Discord

• Desktop mode runs in X11. This GitHub issue proposes to change it

Gamma in Discord

• Gamer's Nexus revealed the Steam Machine will have SODIMMs

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• We took a break over the break
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2:27 A Distro, a Router and a Choice
25:26 Windows 10 Isn't Dead Yet...
43:45 Browser Watch (feat. Firefox)
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• Death, DEATH, everywhere
• Not so bloated, now, is it?
• and Someone Agrees with US!

0:00 Cold Open
1:35 Mozilla's Making Changes... Again
24:31 Disks Hate This One Weird Trick!
54:32 The Last of the Season 5 Feedback
-54:42 VesuLabs
-1:03:02 stephenreaves3205
1:12:16 Next Time & Farewell (For Now)
1:17:38 Stinger

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Mozilla Watch 👀

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The Season Conclusion of our Flatpak/Snap adventure

The numbers

MacOS    App
-----------------
666MB    Brave
451MB    Discord
651MB    Element
436MB    Firefox
873MB    GIMP
628MB    Inkscape
553MB    Kdenlive
451MB    OBS
303MB    Telegram

Windows  App
-----------------
873MB    Brave
468MB    Discord
1.05GB   Element
262MB    Firefox
963MB    GIMP
562MB    Inkscape
1.02GB   Kdenlive
394MB    OBS
215MB    Telegram

Ubuntu  Snap
-----------------
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/bare_5.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave_509.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave_511.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core22_1908.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core22_1963.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24_888.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24_988.snap
68M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/cups_1100.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/desktop-security-center_59.snap
111M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord_239.snap
115M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord_240.snap
172M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/element-desktop_148.snap
62M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ffmpeg-2404_59.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_6159.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_6198.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firmware-updater_167.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp_517.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp_519.snap
517M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-42-2204_202.snap
405M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-46-2404_90.snap
92M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gtk-common-themes_1535.snap
339M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/inkscape_10823.snap
64M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive_119.snap
319M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive_120.snap
1.4G    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kf6-core24_27.snap
208M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/mesa-2404_495.snap
576M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/obs-studio_1302.snap
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/partial
15M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/prompting-client_104.snap
45M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd_23771.snap
51M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd_24505.snap
568K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd-desktop-integration_253.snap
11M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snap-store_1270.snap
446M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop_6597.snap
454M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop_6639.snap

Fedora   Flatpak
---------------
443 MB   Brave
278 MB   Discord
540 MB   OBS Studio
477 MB   Element
 17 MB   TAP-plugins
 19 MB   SWH
675 MB   Freedesktop Platform
538 MB   Mesa
538 MB   Mesa (Extra)
463 MB   Mesa
463 MB   Mesa (Extra)
 30 MB   FFmpeg extension with extra codecs
790 kB   openh264
789 kB   openh264
256 MB   GNU Image Manipulation Program
  8 MB   HEIC
  1 GB   GNOME Application Platform version 48
275 MB   Inkscape
 20 MB   Adwaita theme
926 MB   KDE Application Platform
  1 GB   KDE Application Platform
 25 MB   QGnomePlatform
  3 MB   QAdwaitaDecorations
241 MB   Kdenlive
282 MB   Firefox
256 MB   Telegram
124 MB   Telegram Desktop Webview Add-on

• 5.0GB MacOS
• 5.8GB Windows
• 6.6GB Flatpak
• 7.0GB Snap, ~6.0GB without old versions + compression

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VesuLabs via email

• Thanks for the feedback on AI bug reporting and Rust in the kernel.

stephenreaves3205 via YouTube

if they spin off Chrome, would they also spin off ChromeOS? Or maybe just rebrand it?

• The roadmap for ChromeOS is to become Android

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• The Thunder rolls
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0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!
23:21 The History of Flatpak

• 24:32 From Glick to Bundles
• 29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app
• 30:54 From Flatpak to the Future! 37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution? 1:02:46 Next Time 1:05:14 Stinger

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Thundermail

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• https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/
• https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920
• https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/
• https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/
• https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/
• https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler

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50:10 Stuck on Lemmy
1:04:15 Next Time
1:08:13 Stinger

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Stuck on Lemmy and Lemmy is stuck on us

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• 2 be or y292B?
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15:09 Mozilla Alt Text & Layoffs
37:35 Pjolt on Thunderbird & iOS
45:20 Chris Recommends an Android
49:34 Chaos-r3v says it's FreeBSD
58:51 Stan Wonders: Mint or Ubuntu?
1:04:35 Next Time!
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Feedback

Pjolt - Thunderbird for iOS?

Thunderbird is in the roadmap for iOS

Chris - Which Android device?

The Pixel has Chris's vote.

Chaos-r3v - Juniper Network switches

At least under the hood Junos OS is based on FreeBSD

Stan - Multiple Operating Systems on the same hardware

• It is posssible to dualboot Ubuntu and Linux Mint or just about any Linux distribution.
• As far as which distribution is best, that really depends on you and what works best in your mind.

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• The Saigoneer

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• Another browser watch
• The History of Linux Mint and Cinnamon
• And how spiced was it?

0:00 Cold Open
1:26 The Mozilla Happenings
22:13 Linux Mint & Cinnamon History
26:54 The Early Mints
32:46 Cinnamon Arrives!
38:49 The Mint and Cinnamon Journey
49:53 Our Spicy Cinnamon Journeys
1:16:44 Next Time!
1:20:09 Stinger

The Video Version!
https://youtu.be/ZK9mn5miMPM

Warm Up

• Mozilla got a new logo.
• Mozilla dot Social is dead on December 17th.

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The History of Cinnamon

• A new distro release
• Three months later
• Version 2.0 of Linux Mint
• Bea, version 2.1
• Bianca, version 2.2
• Mint's very own package manager 'apt' which is not-the-same-as-the-apt-you-know
• Lisa, version 12
• Maya, version 13
• Cinnamon 1.1.2
• Nemo was forked from Nautilus, Gnome's file manager
• Cinnamon 2.2
• Cinnamon 2.4
• Nemo got a plugin manager.
• Cinnamon 2.8, gained a power applet
• Apps written by the Mint team for... everything
• Cinnamon 3.0 was released
• Better touchpad support, more animations and better window management.
• Plugins that Cinnamon could use were called Spices
• Cinnamon 3.4
• Cinnamon 3.6
• Cinnamon 4.0
• Cinnamon 5.0
• "Thingy"
• Cinnamon 6.0 with experimental Wayland
• Cinnamon 6.4 will end up with a much needed facelift.

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🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to explore your feedback and some other topics. Our next history episode will be Snap Packages.

Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.

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• Do you think Larry uses Firefox?
• The Compiled History of Gentoo
• and How we emerged from the year long journey

0:00 Cold Open
2:44 Mozilla Watch!
24:59 Gentoo - The Early Years
30:30 Gentoo - 1.0 And Beyond
35:20 Gentoo - 2007 to 2014
39:56 Gentoo - 2015 to the Present
45:37 The ENTIRE Gentoo Journey
1:20:49 Next Season?
1:24:52 Stinger

The Video Version!
https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c

Mozilla Watch

• Mozilla recently announced some planned improvements.

📣Announcements📣

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The History of Gentoo

• Stampede Linux
• When a system emerged, it was called Enoch
• Making a Distro part 2
• Sustainability of the project had made its way to the forefront.
• Gentoo website ~August 2001
• March 3 2002 public facing movement was easily spotted.
• March 31 2002, 1.0 was finally released!
• The huge influx of new users it encouraged caused bandwidth issues for Gentoo.
• August of 2003, 1.4 was released.
• Full installation could be completed in under an hour!
• 2004, marked a change from the dot releases.
• 2004.0 released February 28, 2004.
• Daniel Robbins, the creator and founder, resigns from Gentoo.
• Despite that work continued. 2004.1 was released shortly after that news, dot 2 in July and dot 3 in November.
• September 2005, the first Gentoo Council was elected.
• Daniel Robbins makes his glorious return to the project!
• This lasted about 8 days before he resigned again.
• Other developers joined Robbins.
• Stability questions around the stability of the Gentoo Project
• October 2009, a LiveDVD release.
• 11.0, released in 2011.
• In 2015 A new website was announced! After the air was cleared, an actual NEW website.
• In 2016, Gentoo Choice Edition. Then in July, Choice Edition Part Dos.
• word crimes
• In 2017, 17.0 in November and an experimental 17.1 in December.
• An issue on Github in 2018.
• 2019 saw the 17.1 profiles finally stabilize.
• In 2021, the addition of 20.0 profiles were released.
• Genchu
  • Wallpaper1 Wallpaper2 Wallpaper3 Wallpaper4
• Precompiled binaries for more packages were announced.
• March of 2024, profile version 23.0.
• Michał Górny notes in his blog a few days before recording here that Gentoo has a problem.

Some Gentoo Quicklinks

• Main Gentoo Website
• Gentoo Handbook
• Gentoo Wiki
• Gentoo Forums
• Gentoo Developers
• Gentoo Bugtracker
• Gentoo Packages

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🔭Next Time🔭 Next Season?

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• The Browser Watch Leftovers
• The History of GNOME
• And Why Gnome is the best desktop
• And a little holiday break

Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:29 Riding the Lightning
16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME
23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x
25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x
33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x
41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond
48:01 How'd GNOME Go?
1:15:39 Next Time: Topics & KDE
1:26:18 Stinger

Watch the Video!
https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro

Mini Browser Watch

• October 30, Mozilla announces the nightly Deb packages
• November 30, Mozilla announces the developer and beta Deb packages

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The History of Gnome

• The email in 1997 to start it all
• Development snapshot 0.13 announcement
• GNOME 1.0 release
• GUADEC
• GNOME OG website
• GNOME revamped website
• HP's HP/UX and Sun's Solaris announce they would be using GNOME as their default desktops.
• GNOME Foundation
• GNOME 2.0 release
• Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8
• GNOME no longer part of GNU
• GNOME was no longer an acronym.
• Gnome 3.0 arrives
• Linus Torvalds noted
• Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but noted that
• Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... GNOME.
• Again, the target of litigation
• Rothschild Patent Imaging was stripped of its patent rights
• Gnome 40
• The Gnome 40 announcement
• The Gnome 45 announcement
• Original GNOME introduction (~99)
• The Evolution of the GNOME Project
• Using GNOME gmc (GNOME Midnight Commander)
• "A Brief History of GNOME" Presentation Notes
• "A Brief History of GNOME" Video
• GNOME 2.0 - 40 Release Notes

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Next Time

Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the KDE Plasma Desktop Environment.

We are taking a mini-holiday 🎄 pause, we will see you in the new year. ☃️ We wish you a happy holiday season! ❄️

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1. Today I Learned
2. Let's get generous
3. Browser Watch!
4. So much feedback
5. Automated whack-a-mole

Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:47 We're on TILvids
14:20 Johnny's Fundraising Drive!
22:19 Johnny's Distro Apocalypse
36:13 Mozilla Watch feat. Vivaldi
53:21 Feedback: furicle
53:52 Feedback: py
57:03 Feedback: georgh
1:02:18 Feedback: Anon
1:06:57 Feedback: Daniel
1:09:19 Community Focus: Techno Tim
1:13:16 App Focus: CrowdSec
1:22:24 Next Time: Gecko Linux
1:23:57 Stinger

The Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JOoe0ivuI

Banter

• We're on TILvids!
• What the heck is a TILvids?

Announcements

• Give us a sub on YouTube and now TILvids
• You can watch us live on Twitch the day after an episode drops.

Feedback from Johnny

• Leo's pick for a project to support - Kdenlive
• Dan's pick for a project to support - FreshRSS
• Leo's pick if his top 3 distros went away - openSUSE Tumbleweed
• Dan's pick if his top 3 distros went away - Fedora

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Browser Watch

Mozilla

• Adding accessibility
  • https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/
  • Cache the World!
• Reflecting on a decade of anti-tracking

Vivaldi

• New web panel is enabled for Mastodon on Vivaldi's own Mastodon instance. tl;dr you can change it for any other Mastodon instance too.

More Feedback

History show possibilities.

• furicle on Mastodon

Have you tried BunsenLabs?

• py on Mastodon
• Leo has had an interest since "The end."

Emacs thoughts

• georgh on the History of Emacs clip
• Leo went down the Internet Rabbit Hole and suggests this video

More Announcements

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Community Focus

• Techno Tim's website with all of his links

App Focus

CrowdSec

Next Time

We will discuss GeckoLinux and the history.

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1. Dropping out of the fediverse
2. The tiny text
3. Mozilla Watch
4. The community holds us ransom
5. Our app is faster than light

0:00 Cold Open
2:26 Press 'F' to Pay Respects
9:47 The Elm Mail System
10:56 Enter, PINE
11:44 PICO, the PIne COmposer
13:17 TIP Is not PICO
14:23 NANO's ANOther editor
14:57 "Lightning and the rest of 2000
17:37 2001, and the release of 1.0
18:49 2002-2015, Allegretta's gone and back again
21:37 The Drama in 2016
24:17 2016 to 2022, and my, how boring things got
25:13 About nano, and What's Next
31:26 Mozilla Watch
38:44 Feedback!
46:59 Community Focus: The Ransomware Files
48:57 App Focus: Warp
53:39 Next Time: Kali Linux
56:31 Stinger

Banter

• Dan moves on Mastodon because the instance he is on is going away.
• So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Announcements

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History Series on Text Editors - GNU Nano

• GNU Nano
• Dave Taylor's Elm Mail System
• Laurence Lundblade and his cohorts were looking for something that had ease-of-use written all over it.
• Enter, Pine. The [freeware-like](wayback.archive.org/web/20001201215500/http://www.washington.edu/pine/overview/legal.html) answer.
• "freeware-ish" label wasn't good enough. So, in 1999, Chris Allegretta, made changes to address that.
• TIP, which stood for TIP Is not Pico, 0.5.0 README.
• 2016 Looking for a new maintainer.
• Still looking
• Nano leaves GNU in 2.6.0
• Debian acknowledged and accepted the change.
• Come back to GNU in 2.7.0.
• Latest release August 2, 2022.

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Mozilla Watch

• Firefox 106 is out!
• .pdf support keeps getting better and better
• private browsing shortcut
• Firefox view

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Feedback

• Menno (Email)
  • EViL keybindings could be an option for Emacs if you are used to Vi/Vim. Thanks for the tip!
• JonG (Email)
  • Glad you caught your shout out and are enjoying the podcast. We're still fans of the SK Hynix stuff too.
• Ryan (Email)
  • Thanks for the Gentoo tips. I am sure we will get to it sometime soon-ish. We appreciate your feedback and are glad you are enjoying the show.

Community Focus

• The Ransomware Files

App Focus

Warp

Next Time

We will discuss Kali Linux and the history.

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1. Network failures
2. Gaming wins
3. We get Emacs Pinky
4. A little browser watch
5. And we get a little manipulative

0:00 Cold Open
1:40 The Little Outage
7:45 Splitgate
10:25 The History of Emacs
23:51 Emacs, Emacs, Emacs
38:39 Browser Watch!
45:32 Kdenlive Fundraiser
47:58 Feedback
56:30 Community Focus: System Crafters
59:40 App Focus: GIMP
1:05:29 Next Time: Alpine Linux
1:09:17 Stinger

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Banter

• Dan re-installs his pfSense
• Splitgate on Steam

Announcements

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• You can watch us live on Twitch the day after an episode drops.

History Series on Text Editors - Emacs

• GNU Emacs
• TECO editor
• TECO-6, compatible with the PDP-6
• Gosling Emacs
• Initially Gosling permitted unrestricted redistribution
• Free software movement
• UniPress began to redistribute and sell Gosling's Emacs on UNIX and VMS
• Interview in 2013 via Slashdot, Richard Stallman said:
• The Free Software Foundation is born
• Richard Gabriel's Lucid Inc needed version 19 to support their IDE, Energize C++.
• Emacs 21.1 brought
• Emacs 22.1 brought
• The last official release of XEmacs
• Emacs 23.1 brought
• Emacs 24.1 brought
• Emacs 25.1 brought
• Emacs 26.1 brought
• Emacs 27.1 brought
• Emacs 28.1 brought
• September 12, 2022 Emacs 28.2, the latest maintenance release is out

Further Reading
The Beginnings of TECO
Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL
https://www.jwz.org/doc/emacs-timeline.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20000819071104/http%3A//www.multicians.org/mepap.html
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/history.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20131024150047/http://www.codeartnow.com/hacker-art-1/macsimizing-teco
https://web.archive.org/web/20101122021051/http://commandline.org.uk/2007/history-of-emacs-and-xemacs/

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Browser Watch

• Firefox 105
• Firefox release notes.
• Microsoft Teams is going away and being replaced by a PWA.
• Malware infested ads in Edge.
• This might be the push to move to a PWA?

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Kdenlive fundraiser is now live!

• Kdenlive fundraiser that is now live
• If you want to help too you can head over to their donation page

Feedback

• Mark (Youtube) Nice Green day shirt, and actually nice Nintendo shirt too, nice shirt all round.
• Larry (Email) How do you handle sharing things in multiple distros installed on the same machine?
• Bhiku (Email) Mozilla Neural Machine Translation Engine
• Unleashing the power of GNU Nano

Community Focus

• System Crafters
• Check out the Absolute Beginners Guide to EMACS

App Focus

Gnu Image Manipulation Program aka GIMP

Next Time

We will discuss Alpine Linux and the history.

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1. Vim stories
2. The quick history of vi and vim
3. A snappy Mozilla watch
4. Gnome can toggle too
5. We take a sip of Cider

0:00 Cold Open
1:48 vim Stories
12:05 vi & vim History
22:13 A Few More Thoughts on vim
39:28 A Snappy Mozilla Watch
42:22 New Features to Gnome
52:19 Feedback
58:23 Community Focus: DistroTube
1:00:32 App Focus: Cider
1:05:33 Next Time: Clear Linux
1:07:35 Stinger

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Banter

• Vim Stories
• There are many guides/shortcut cheatsheets out there. Here are a few that seem good:
  • https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/
  • https://linuxhint.com/vim_shortcuts/
  • http://vimsheet.com

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History Series on Text Editors - vi and vim

• vi (Pronounced V, I)
• vim
• vi wikipedia page
• Vim wikipedia page
• George Colouris
• Bill Joy
• ADM-3A Terminal and the keyboard layout
• Bill also hacked together a temporary, intermediary editor
• 1987 - A limited vi clone STEVIE, the ST Editor for VI Enthusiasts, was born.
• 1988 - Bram Moolenaar took the source for STEVIE and ported it to the Amiga which marked the first release of Vim. It was also known as the "wq text editor" at the time. Most folks take the acronym to mean vi Improved, but originally, it stood for vi Imitation. It took on the Improved meaning later in 1993 around version 2.
• Bram Moolenaar
• Bram's Web page
• elvis
• nvi was born
• The original vi source code was released as open source.
• 2020 - Fedora switches from Vim to nano for the default text editor
• June 28, 2022 - Vim 9.0 is released!

More Announcements

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Mozilla watch

• Firefox on Ubuntu
• Firefox 104 is released

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Gnome Can Now...

• Toggle Speakers and Mics in 43!

Feedback

• Great feedback on our last episode on YouTube
• lendarker on reddit

Community Focus

• Distrotube
• Distrotube Vim videos
• Including some tutorial videos part 1 and part 2

App Focus

Cider

Next Time

We will discuss Clear Linux and the history.

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Coming up in this episode

1. We'll chat on the deck
2. Watch some Mozilla
3. Drop some cookies for season 3
4. and listen to some blurry tunes

Banter

• Steamdeck

Announcements

• Changes to the show.
• Introducing "Community Focus"
• Distro history will be on even numbered episodes
• What do you think of TilVIDs
• Give us a sub on YouTube
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Mozilla (Browser?) Watch

• Total Cookie Protection
• Better mic support in 101
• Firefox 102
• This release will be the new ESR as the current Firefox 91 ESR goes EOL 9/20/22
• De-AMP with Brave

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OMG OOMD

• SystemD OOMD service
• The reddit thread that started the conversation
• SystemD OOMD nukes your applications
• SystemD OOMD is getting fixed?
• Canonical's Nick Rosbrook has opened a PR
• For reference Fedora enabled OOMD in F34
• Fedora had a couple of issues like this and this too.

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Community Focus

PostmarketOS Podcast

App Focus

Amberol
Emmanuele Bassi
https://www.bassi.io/

Next Time

**We will discuss Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and the history.

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1. Some ip peeking
2. Installing with Flutter
3. Edge Watch
4. Mozilla Watch
5. Brave Watch
6. And fragmented downloads

Banter -

• Leo is working on a blog post about some basic ip commands.
• ip -c a
• ip -br -c a
• ip -br -c l
• ip -br -c n
• ip -c r
• resolvectl dns

Ubuntu Flutter Installer

• It is in the daily test isos Look for the Canary builds.

Fedora 35 Release Party!

• What's new
• November 12–13 is the release party - registration required

Linux Kernel 5.15 released

Edge Watch Microsoft Edge Now Stable on Linux

• Official announcement in there somewhere

TOK, a KDE-Telegram Client

• Niccolò Ve's recent video
• TOK

Mozilla Watch Firefox turns 94

• With EGL in tow
• more on EGL
• And Side Channel Attack Prevention
• configure which tabs are unloaded manually in about:unload
• Mozilla kills malicious addons used by 455k Firefox users

Plasma Browser Integration Unavailable because of MFA Requirement

• The delayed commit

More useful mobile Home page

Brave Watch Brave Ditches Google, Qwant and DuckDuckGo by Default

Unicode's Bidi Algorithm Breaks All Code Forever

• Rust is the first to patch (that Leo found)

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Gnome Fragments
Gnome Fragments

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Zorin OS

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1. Beta Banter
2. Hybrid Packaging Feedback
3. Snapzilla watch

From the thumb

• California Games

Banter - Beta to the Max

• Ubuntu 21.10 Beta (Now RC) edit doh! Dan gets dates wrong, 10/14 is the proposed release date.
• Fedora 35 Beta
• MX Linux RC

Distro Packaging vs Snap/Flatpak

• Drew Devault, Original post from 2019
• New post in September

Mozilla Watch, Snap Watch, Snapzilla Watch?!

• Ubuntu to switch to snap of Firefox
• Firefox Suggest
• Firefox Tests Bing on the 1%
• Brave search
• Firefox 93 Out, too!

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Firefox Multi-Account Containers
This episode's app:

• Firefox Multi-Account Containers.

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We wrap up our thoughts on Garuda Linux.

Garuda Linux

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1. We'll redirect your feedback.
2. We talk about a driving force.
3. Apps that are not focused.
4. Watch out for the Mozilla.
5. Kernels keep on poppin'.
6. We give a little TLC to the PC.
7. We bring on all the factors for the focus.

Banter

• Caddy server
• Enter Caddy redirects

Feedback

• Mattias' blog post Thanks for your continued feedback!

Drive Manufacturers are sketchy

• The Register article about WD
• The Register article about Samsung
• SSDs dropping trim from Neowin
• SSDs dropping trim from Phoronix

Gnome Apps

• The new Gnome Apps web site

Mozilla Watch

• AVIF back on by default
• Ugh, delayed again
• Maybe for 93?
• AVIF

Linux Kernel 5.14 (now released) - KVM on ARM and 5.15 has some great things coming

• 9to5 article
• Official Pull request for KVM on ARM
• Hot plugging GPUs? What?
• 5.15 will have NTFS mainline kernel support
• ksmbd the in-kernel SMB3 protocol file server
• A day later it is merged

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Gnome Authenticator and Keysmith
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• Authenticator
• Keysmith

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We wrap our time with Elementary OS

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1. We interrupt you for a public service
2. Mozilla Watch
3. The Tenacity of Audacity
4. We make waves with our app

Preshow

• Traefik

Ubuntu 20.10 PSA

• Ubuntu (and flavors) 20.10 is EOL July 22nd 2021 Update ASAP to 21.04

Mozilla Watch

• Firefox 90 released
• DNS over HTTPS Now the Default in Canada
  • The TRR Program

Audacity

• Policy clarification
• Debian Bug
• Twitter thread from Hubert Figuière addressing spyware concerns
• Maintainer of Tenacity fork steps down
• arsTechnica article
• Audacity Available as AppImage as of 3.0.3 RC1

Feedback - Security

• diff
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• Sophos for Linux
• clamAV

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Gnome Sound Recorder, kwave
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• Gnome Sound Recorder
• kwave

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We discuss topics and Feedback that impact your User Space

Our distro is KaOS

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1. Mozilla Watch
2. Simon Peter refines our take on AppImages
3. That there Freenode kerfuffle
4. And No teary just Geary

Preshow

• Leo's new build -
  • Ryzen 7 5800x
  • MSI MPG B500 Gaming Plus
  • Radeon RX 5700x
  • G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz
  • CM ML 120 V2 RGB -> Hyper 212 Evo RGB
  • WD Black NVMe
  • AData SX7000

Mozilla Watch

• How 'bout that redesign?
• Common Voice

AppImages

• Simon Peter's AppImage Comment
• Make. It. Simple. Linux Desktop Usability.
• Around January Leo tweeted advocating a Mac-like experience.

Freenode drama

• Top of the shell?
• the end
• no more IRCCloud
• IRC.com blog post

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Geary
This episode's app:

• Geary

Next Time

We discuss topics and Feedback that impact your User Space

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1. We get federated
2. Mozilla watch
3. We've been working 9 to 5
4. We toot on the go with our app.

Preshow

• Gitea
• Yet Another Dotfiles Manager

Mastodon

• Mastodon
• What is Mastodon?
• Mastodon roots
• Eugen Rochko
• ActivityPub
  • Pleroma
  • Pixelfed
  • Misskey
  • PeerTube
  • Plume
• Mastodon Apps

Mozilla Watch

• Push for Net Neutrality
• Trim http Referrers

Gnome 40

• Beta Announcement
• And now (after we record) Gnome 40 Release Announcement
• Gnome Extensions Rebooted

Follow-ups

• Eric Adams' Appimage Launcher video
• Manjaro Arm

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Tootle and Fedilab
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• Tootle
• Fedilab
  • note from Dan: I didn't realize the Google Play Store version is now a pay app. It is still opensource and available on Fdroid.

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1. We feed on some backs
2. Check in with our Mozilla correspondent
3. Godzilla meets a fire engine

Email Feedback

• Leo's fix for Netflix, etc. in Fedora
• Joshua Strobl's tweet about Flatpak, Snap and Third Party software

Mozilla Watch...

• Super Cookies blocked!
• Development for PWAs stops

Chrome(ium) Watch

• Sync support for Chromium on March 15 2021
• omg!ubuntu! coverage

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Going Linux

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Rescuezilla
This episode's app: Rescuezilla

They have a Patreon page

It is a Swiss Army Tool Knife too :)

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We discuss February's distro of the month, PCLinuxOS TDE

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1. XFace gets a new face
2. CentOS rocks your world
3. Mozilla Watch
4. We wish upon a star
5. And we think inside the box

Preshow

• Wowstick 1F on Amazon

XFCE 4.14 --> 4.16

• Official Announcement
• Official Tour, highlighting the new color palette
• https://9to5linux.com/xfce-4-16-desktop-environment-officially-released-this-is-whats-new
• TL;DR - Fractional scaling. New Icons. Cleaned up dialogs and settings menus.

CentOS Linux announcement

• CentOS
• Official Announcement
• Old "Rough" Timeline
  • Fedora --> wait some years --> Centos Stream --> wait a few weeks --> RHEL --> wait some more time --> Centos
• New "Rough" Timeline
  • Fedora --> wait some years --> Centos Stream --> wait a few weeks --> RHEL
• Rocky Linux
• Project Lenix
• Oracle Linux

Mozilla Watch...

• Visual refresh meta bug AKA proton --> photon
  • https://www.techradar.com/news/get-ready-for-a-radical-firefox-redesign
  • https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/
  • https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/01/firefox-proton/

Wishlist for 2021

• Dan
  • I think the Pine 64 future looks good. My wish is that the time frame is closer to the 6 month range for the next gen stuff to start to materialize.
  • Intel gets their new graphics stack rolled out for laptops.
• Leo
  • Pine/Pi Moar Cores! Enthusiast server platform.
  • Firefox becomes a major player again. Nature abhors a monoculture.
• Joe
  • My long suffering 4k laptop screen woes remedied (installers that support Hidpi)
  • RPi sata or M.2 ports (even MMC)

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SANS Internet Stormcast

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Gnome Boxes
This episode's app: Gnome Boxes

• Boxes on flathub

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We discuss January's distro of the month, Solus

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1. We get into some Office politics
2. We'll discuss the new products we can't have
3. and we have an app focus that will shed some light on your storage

Welcome to the Linux User Space

Open Letter from Libreoffice to Openoffice

• Comparison
• History
• The Letter

Nvidia and hardware availability

• RTX 3070 on Amazon

Mozilla

• The Internet needs our love
• The Pitch
• The Ad

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LWDW

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Filelight
This episode's app: Filelight

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Next episode we discuss November's distro of the month, which is KDE Neon

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Coming up in this episode we cover

1. Toxicity in the community
2. Mozilla and Firefox
3. Printing in Linux
4. And that must have app for every flatpak user

Welcome to the Linux User Space

Toxicity

• Google & Ubuntu Team Up to Bring Flutter Apps to Linux

Mozilla and Firefox

• Essential Guide: Improve Firefox Performance on Linux by Turning WebRender On
• Mac and Linux coming soon, why no Linux support yet?
• The Firefox Browser is a privacy nightmare on desktop and mobile
• Mozilla turns off “Firefox Send” following malware abuse reports
• Mozilla lays off 70 as it waits for subscription products to generate revenue
• Mozilla is laying off 250 people and planning a ‘new focus’ on making money
• 1 Mozilla and Google renew Firefox search agreement
• 2 Mozilla and Google renew Firefox search agreement
• 3 from 2018
• 4 from 2011
• Comcast’s Xfinity Internet Service Joins Firefox’s Trusted Recursive Resolver Program
• Mozilla expands its partnership with ad-free subscription service Scroll
• Firefox Plans Controversial New Encryption Setting For Millions, And Update Starts This Month
• Firefox turns controversial new encryption on by default in the US
• Why Mozilla Firefox Is Making Headlines Again

Printers

• CUPS - Common UNIX Printing System
• HP Linux Imaging and Printing aka HPLIP
• HP's page for HPLIP
• Debugging Printing Problems in Ubuntu
• Debugging Printing Problems in Fedora
• Arch wiki - troubleshooting CUPS
• Debian wiki - CUPS debugging
• openSUSE Printer Operation Doc

Housekeeping

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This Week in Linux
Tuxdigital
Destination Linux Network

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Flatseal

This episode's app: Flatseal

Setting Zoom flatpak permissions:
flatpak permission-set devices camera us.zoom.Zoom no
flatpak permission-set devices microphone us.zoom.Zoom yes

Eric Adams' video on Flatpak permissions

Next episode we discuss Manjaro
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