• Another browser watch
• The History of Linux Mint and Cinnamon
• And how spiced was it?

0:00 Cold Open
1:26 The Mozilla Happenings
22:13 Linux Mint & Cinnamon History
26:54 The Early Mints
32:46 Cinnamon Arrives!
38:49 The Mint and Cinnamon Journey
49:53 Our Spicy Cinnamon Journeys
1:16:44 Next Time!
1:20:09 Stinger

The Video Version!
https://youtu.be/ZK9mn5miMPM

Warm Up

• Mozilla got a new logo.
• Mozilla dot Social is dead on December 17th.

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The History of Cinnamon

• A new distro release
• Three months later
• Version 2.0 of Linux Mint
• Bea, version 2.1
• Bianca, version 2.2
• Mint's very own package manager 'apt' which is not-the-same-as-the-apt-you-know
• Lisa, version 12
• Maya, version 13
• Cinnamon 1.1.2
• Nemo was forked from Nautilus, Gnome's file manager
• Cinnamon 2.2
• Cinnamon 2.4
• Nemo got a plugin manager.
• Cinnamon 2.8, gained a power applet
• Apps written by the Mint team for... everything
• Cinnamon 3.0 was released
• Better touchpad support, more animations and better window management.
• Plugins that Cinnamon could use were called Spices
• Cinnamon 3.4
• Cinnamon 3.6
• Cinnamon 4.0
• Cinnamon 5.0
• "Thingy"
• Cinnamon 6.0 with experimental Wayland
• Cinnamon 6.4 will end up with a much needed facelift.

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Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:47 We're on TILvids
14:20 Johnny's Fundraising Drive!
22:19 Johnny's Distro Apocalypse
36:13 Mozilla Watch feat. Vivaldi
53:21 Feedback: furicle
53:52 Feedback: py
57:03 Feedback: georgh
1:02:18 Feedback: Anon
1:06:57 Feedback: Daniel
1:09:19 Community Focus: Techno Tim
1:13:16 App Focus: CrowdSec
1:22:24 Next Time: Gecko Linux
1:23:57 Stinger

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• What the heck is a TILvids?

Announcements

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Feedback from Johnny

• Leo's pick for a project to support - Kdenlive
• Dan's pick for a project to support - FreshRSS
• Leo's pick if his top 3 distros went away - openSUSE Tumbleweed
• Dan's pick if his top 3 distros went away - Fedora

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Mozilla

• Adding accessibility
  • https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/
  • Cache the World!
• Reflecting on a decade of anti-tracking

Vivaldi

• New web panel is enabled for Mastodon on Vivaldi's own Mastodon instance. tl;dr you can change it for any other Mastodon instance too.

More Feedback

History show possibilities.

• furicle on Mastodon

Have you tried BunsenLabs?

• py on Mastodon
• Leo has had an interest since "The end."

Emacs thoughts

• georgh on the History of Emacs clip
• Leo went down the Internet Rabbit Hole and suggests this video

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Community Focus

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CrowdSec

Next Time

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1. Internet woes, part deux.
2. Knocking them over, one at a time...
3. Angry Birdsite?
4. Knock knock. What's the password?
5. We get the explanation.

The Video
https://youtu.be/4MStcMU9py4

0:00 Cold Open
1:30 ISP Woes
7:37 The Linux User Space Curse
17:32 The Fediverse is Booming
34:32 Managing Your Passwords
52:07 A Little More Feedback
1:02:37 Veronica Explains
1:07:03 Pass
1:18:54 Stinger

Banter

• Leo has Internet woes.
• Dan's Curse!
  • The Ransomware Files closes up shop

Announcements

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Fediverse is booming and Twitter is imploding.

• Micro services are bloat
  • One of those microservices just happened to be 2FA...
• Fired in a Tweet?
  • Forbes coverage
• Mastodon reaches 1M active monthly users.
  • But really... It is more like 4.6M and 5700 instances total and climbing.
• Raspberry Pi creates its own Mastodon instance.
• Vivaldi follows their lead.

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Feedback

Password managers

• u/curtistucker wrote us on Reddit
• pass
• KeePass
• Bitwarden
• Vaultwarden
• QtPass

Curtis thanks for the feedback! You have a great setup going there.

On Linux User Space

• Paul wrote us on Mastodon
• It was a great thread. Bottom line is, use what you like, no shame in doing so. Even if it isn't Linux we hope you enjoy and find some value in what we are doing here.

On "Where does the non-distro history go next?"

• Johnny, one of our fantastic patrons, gave a thumbs up to our mention of desktop environments and how often these histories would come out.
• He said "Hi, I vote for quality over quantity. I also vote for Leo's favorite, the history of XFCE! :D"

On the Community that hasn't been Toxic?

Youtube/Sigma: Nice content
LUS: Why thank you!
Youtube/Sigma: because I actually think it's super underrated
LUS: Now you're making us blush 😊 This is the type of thing that gives us the energy to keep going.

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Community Focus

• Veronica Explains on YouTube
• Veronica Explains on TILvids
• Veronica Explains on Mastodon
• Veronica Explains on her website

App Focus

pass

Next Time

We will discuss Linux Lite and the history.

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1. Dropping out of the fediverse
2. The tiny text
3. Mozilla Watch
4. The community holds us ransom
5. Our app is faster than light

0:00 Cold Open
2:26 Press 'F' to Pay Respects
9:47 The Elm Mail System
10:56 Enter, PINE
11:44 PICO, the PIne COmposer
13:17 TIP Is not PICO
14:23 NANO's ANOther editor
14:57 "Lightning and the rest of 2000
17:37 2001, and the release of 1.0
18:49 2002-2015, Allegretta's gone and back again
21:37 The Drama in 2016
24:17 2016 to 2022, and my, how boring things got
25:13 About nano, and What's Next
31:26 Mozilla Watch
38:44 Feedback!
46:59 Community Focus: The Ransomware Files
48:57 App Focus: Warp
53:39 Next Time: Kali Linux
56:31 Stinger

Banter

• Dan moves on Mastodon because the instance he is on is going away.
• So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Announcements

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History Series on Text Editors - GNU Nano

• GNU Nano
• Dave Taylor's Elm Mail System
• Laurence Lundblade and his cohorts were looking for something that had ease-of-use written all over it.
• Enter, Pine. The [freeware-like](wayback.archive.org/web/20001201215500/http://www.washington.edu/pine/overview/legal.html) answer.
• "freeware-ish" label wasn't good enough. So, in 1999, Chris Allegretta, made changes to address that.
• TIP, which stood for TIP Is not Pico, 0.5.0 README.
• 2016 Looking for a new maintainer.
• Still looking
• Nano leaves GNU in 2.6.0
• Debian acknowledged and accepted the change.
• Come back to GNU in 2.7.0.
• Latest release August 2, 2022.

More Announcements

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Mozilla Watch

• Firefox 106 is out!
• .pdf support keeps getting better and better
• private browsing shortcut
• Firefox view

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Feedback

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  • EViL keybindings could be an option for Emacs if you are used to Vi/Vim. Thanks for the tip!
• JonG (Email)
  • Glad you caught your shout out and are enjoying the podcast. We're still fans of the SK Hynix stuff too.
• Ryan (Email)
  • Thanks for the Gentoo tips. I am sure we will get to it sometime soon-ish. We appreciate your feedback and are glad you are enjoying the show.

Community Focus

• The Ransomware Files

App Focus

Warp

Next Time

We will discuss Kali Linux and the history.

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3. We've been working 9 to 5
4. We toot on the go with our app.

Preshow

• Gitea
• Yet Another Dotfiles Manager

Mastodon

• Mastodon
• What is Mastodon?
• Mastodon roots
• Eugen Rochko
• ActivityPub
  • Pleroma
  • Pixelfed
  • Misskey
  • PeerTube
  • Plume
• Mastodon Apps

Mozilla Watch

• Push for Net Neutrality
• Trim http Referrers

Gnome 40

• Beta Announcement
• And now (after we record) Gnome 40 Release Announcement
• Gnome Extensions Rebooted

Follow-ups

• Eric Adams' Appimage Launcher video
• Manjaro Arm

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App Focus

Tootle and Fedilab
This episode's app(s):

• Tootle
• Fedilab
  • note from Dan: I didn't realize the Google Play Store version is now a pay app. It is still opensource and available on Fdroid.

Next Time

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