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    <title>Linux User Space - Episodes Tagged with “Lemmy”</title>
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    <description>How did your favorite Linux distribution get its start? Join us and find out!
Linux User Space is hosted by Leo and Dan, and every two weeks we deep dive into the history of Linux distributions and the things that matter to us.
Episodes drop every other Monday.
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    <itunes:summary>How did your favorite Linux distribution get its start? Join us and find out!
Linux User Space is hosted by Leo and Dan, and every two weeks we deep dive into the history of Linux distributions and the things that matter to us.
Episodes drop every other Monday.
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  <itunes:subtitle>In our welcome back episode, we tackle problems that every single one of us has absolutely encountered in our every day lives like: How do I get over the air television streaming through my local server to all the people I know? Will AI do my laundry while also writing a thesis? Can an application upgrade failure recovery both fail and not fail at the same time? Still with us? Me neither, but it's a good time. I promise! Have a listen :)</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HD scores a Homerun&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mozilla Launches Into Orbit&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stand by while Lemmy Stands by&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
3:00 HD Homerun out of the park&lt;br&gt;
21:56 Mozilla Launches Into Orbit&lt;br&gt;
50:10 Stuck on Lemmy&lt;br&gt;
1:04:15 Next Time&lt;br&gt;
1:08:13 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Video Version&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;HD Homerun out of the park&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Silicondust's HDHomerun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://jellyfin.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jellyfin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://plex.tv" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Plex&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://tailscale.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Tailscale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;This program was made possible by:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️&lt;a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️&lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And by contributions to your L-U-S station by &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patrons&lt;/a&gt; like you 😍&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Mozilla Orbit&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://orbitbymozilla.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Orbit by Mozilla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/12/orbit-by-mozilla-ai-assistant-firefox-extension" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;OMG Ubuntu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;📣More Announcements📣&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt; OR jump on over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;open forum on Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Stuck on Lemmy and Lemmy is stuck on us&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan broke it on upgrade, then restored it a few times and we are back on the old version. It is working though.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Head over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;forum or User Space section&lt;/a&gt;. We hope to post more things that are opinion rather than news. Give us some feedback on those so we can incorporate them into the show.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🧹Housekeeping🧹&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗞️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📱 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;🔭Next Time🔭&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We plan to cover more topics and feedback.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visaggio &amp;amp; Co&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;--verbose&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MarshMan&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GrouchyM&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pjol&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A.J.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backshift6090&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FrozenGorilla&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hausken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jeff3ix&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rotted Mood&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Saigoneer &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>HD scores a Homerun</li>
<li>Mozilla Launches Into Orbit</li>
<li>Stand by while Lemmy Stands by</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
3:00 HD Homerun out of the park<br>
21:56 Mozilla Launches Into Orbit<br>
50:10 Stuck on Lemmy<br>
1:04:15 Next Time<br>
1:08:13 Stinger</p>

<p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4" rel="nofollow">The Video Version</a></strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4</a></p>

<h2>HD Homerun out of the park</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/" rel="nofollow">Silicondust&#39;s HDHomerun</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jellyfin.org/" rel="nofollow">Jellyfin</a></li>
<li><a href="https://plex.tv" rel="nofollow">Plex</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tailscale.com/" rel="nofollow">Tailscale</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Mozilla Orbit</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://orbitbymozilla.com/" rel="nofollow">Orbit by Mozilla</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/12/orbit-by-mozilla-ai-assistant-firefox-extension" rel="nofollow">OMG Ubuntu</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Stuck on Lemmy and Lemmy is stuck on us</h2>

<ul>
<li>Dan broke it on upgrade, then restored it a few times and we are back on the old version. It is working though.</li>
<li>Head over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">forum or User Space section</a>. We hope to post more things that are opinion rather than news. Give us some feedback on those so we can incorporate them into the show.</li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>HD scores a Homerun</li>
<li>Mozilla Launches Into Orbit</li>
<li>Stand by while Lemmy Stands by</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
3:00 HD Homerun out of the park<br>
21:56 Mozilla Launches Into Orbit<br>
50:10 Stuck on Lemmy<br>
1:04:15 Next Time<br>
1:08:13 Stinger</p>

<p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4" rel="nofollow">The Video Version</a></strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4</a></p>

<h2>HD Homerun out of the park</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/" rel="nofollow">Silicondust&#39;s HDHomerun</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jellyfin.org/" rel="nofollow">Jellyfin</a></li>
<li><a href="https://plex.tv" rel="nofollow">Plex</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tailscale.com/" rel="nofollow">Tailscale</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Mozilla Orbit</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://orbitbymozilla.com/" rel="nofollow">Orbit by Mozilla</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/12/orbit-by-mozilla-ai-assistant-firefox-extension" rel="nofollow">OMG Ubuntu</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Stuck on Lemmy and Lemmy is stuck on us</h2>

<ul>
<li>Dan broke it on upgrade, then restored it a few times and we are back on the old version. It is working though.</li>
<li>Head over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">forum or User Space section</a>. We hope to post more things that are opinion rather than news. Give us some feedback on those so we can incorporate them into the show.</li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

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<h2>Producer</h2>

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<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

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<li>--verbose</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
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<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
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<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
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  <title>Episode 4:06: Anything But Common</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky. In this episode we banter about our Lemmy instance, a bug that is old enough to drink and how to get Firefox installed. We also cover the history of the Common Desktop Environment (CDE).</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We do a little upgrade&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Firefox fixes a tooltip&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The History of W, V, X and CDE&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How it went&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And a new old desktop to explore&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:42 Lemmy's Upgraded!&lt;br&gt;
10:56 A 22 Year Old Bug&lt;br&gt;
15:50 Install Firefox Correctly&lt;br&gt;
22:22 CDE History: Intro&lt;br&gt;
24:04 CDE History: X&lt;br&gt;
27:33 CDE History: OPEN LOOK&lt;br&gt;
29:25 CDE History: COSE&lt;br&gt;
31:28 CDE History: CDE &amp;amp; Others&lt;br&gt;
34:24 CDE History: The Opening&lt;br&gt;
36:14 CDE History: The Releases&lt;br&gt;
43:02 How'd CDE Go?&lt;br&gt;
1:16:00 Next Time&lt;br&gt;
1:21:29 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Watch the video!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Banter&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LUS Lemmy instance&lt;/a&gt; got an &lt;a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/releases/tag/1.2.0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;update&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The ansible repo switched to tagged releases. There were ⚠️breaking changes⚠️ that needed to be &lt;a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/blob/main/README.md#upgrading" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;prepared for&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;One of the issues Dan had is likely &lt;a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/commit/300a261b2a346dd6489f5eb43d6af632633f4059" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;fixed now.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/22-year-old-firefox-tooltip-bug-fixed-in-a-few-lines-offering-hope-to-us-all/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Bug&lt;/a&gt; that's old enough to drink and drive, but hopefully not at the same time!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan &lt;a href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux#w_install-firefox-from-mozilla-builds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;installed Firefox&lt;/a&gt; from the &lt;code&gt;.tar.gz&lt;/code&gt; download.

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spoiler - it updates just fine because my user is the owner in the &lt;code&gt;/opt&lt;/code&gt; directory.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;This program was made possible by:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The letters W, V, X, C, D and E&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️&lt;a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️&lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And by contributions to your L-U-S station by &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patrons&lt;/a&gt; like you 😍&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;The History of The &lt;a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Common Desktop Environment (CDE)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120717074939/http://www.cmu.edu/corporate/news/2007/features/andrew/what_is_andrew.shtml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Andrew Project&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;W was a windowing system that was originally &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040522163027/http://eia.udg.es/%7Eteo/sd/documents/articles/p314-cheriton.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;written for the V operating system&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;In 1984, Robert Scheifler &lt;a href="https://www.talisman.org/x-debut.shtml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;wrote&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/22949.24053" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;X is our “reaction” to W &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrix_Window_Manager" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ultrix Window Manager&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;code&gt;uwm&lt;/code&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Tom's Window Manager, which eventually became Tab Window Manager&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;code&gt;twm&lt;/code&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://archive.org/details/openlookgraphica00sunm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Open Look Specification&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The OSF &lt;a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=szsEAAAAMBAJ&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;source=gbs_ge_summary_r&amp;amp;cad=0#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=open%20look&amp;amp;f=false" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;narrows the search for a User Interface&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Company-Publications/HP-Journal/90s/HPJ-1990-06.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;HP&lt;/a&gt; and Microsoft's CXI and DEC's XUI to create the HP OSF/Motif Window Manager.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sun went on to build &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWindows" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;OpenWindows&lt;/a&gt;, which was X with OPEN LOOK on top to replace &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunView" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;SunView&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Open_Software_Environment" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;COSE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;In 1994, The OSF and Unix International, a body meant to standardize UNIX, &lt;a href="https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.osf.misc/c/Q2uTrTvB8bY/m/8SMI8V-JvE4J" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;merged&lt;/a&gt;, and in 96, &lt;a href="https://www.tech-insider.org/unix/research/1996/0214.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;merged again&lt;/a&gt; with X/Open into The Open Group.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Motif and CDE &lt;a href="https://groups.google.com/g/cu.motif-talk/c/xMQ-2cBi9bU/m/_VTikcvANZkJ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;became one&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://groups.google.com/g/de.comp.os.linux.misc/c/SDbiV3Iat_s/m/zv_D_2ctS8sJ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;KDE enters the scene&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;May of 2000 when Motif &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20131003125200/https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=comp.windows.x.announce/K2LrU6QusnA/5fRzz-NBIrAJ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;was released&lt;/a&gt; as OpenMotif.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LessTif, because Less is Mo, &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000619030034/http://www.lesstif.org/future.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;published an initial statement&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;August 6th, 2012, CDE was &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121124230739/http://devio.us/%7Ekpedersen/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1293" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;relicensed&lt;/a&gt; under the LGPL and was available on SourceForge, where it still lives today.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;After opening it up, 2.2.1 was released on &lt;a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/32043063/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;March 1st, 2014&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The final release, at least as of this recording, &lt;a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/37715846/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;2.5.1&lt;/a&gt;, dropped in October of 2022.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;More Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt; OR jump on over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;open forum on Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗞️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Next Time&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the &lt;a href="https://xfce.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Xfce Desktop Environment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A.J.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hausken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Saigoneer&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tobias &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>LUS, Linux User Space, Leo Chavez, Dan Simmons, Firefox, Lemmy, Ansible, CDE, Common Desktop Environment</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>We do a little upgrade</li>
<li>Firefox fixes a tooltip</li>
<li>The History of W, V, X and CDE</li>
<li>How it went</li>
<li>And a new old desktop to explore</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:42 Lemmy&#39;s Upgraded!<br>
10:56 A 22 Year Old Bug<br>
15:50 Install Firefox Correctly<br>
22:22 CDE History: Intro<br>
24:04 CDE History: X<br>
27:33 CDE History: OPEN LOOK<br>
29:25 CDE History: COSE<br>
31:28 CDE History: CDE &amp; Others<br>
34:24 CDE History: The Opening<br>
36:14 CDE History: The Releases<br>
43:02 How&#39;d CDE Go?<br>
1:16:00 Next Time<br>
1:21:29 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q" rel="nofollow"><strong>Watch the video!</strong></a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">LUS Lemmy instance</a> got an <a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/releases/tag/1.2.0" rel="nofollow">update</a>.

<ul>
<li>The ansible repo switched to tagged releases. There were ⚠️breaking changes⚠️ that needed to be <a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/blob/main/README.md#upgrading" rel="nofollow">prepared for</a>.</li>
<li>One of the issues Dan had is likely <a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/commit/300a261b2a346dd6489f5eb43d6af632633f4059" rel="nofollow">fixed now.</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/22-year-old-firefox-tooltip-bug-fixed-in-a-few-lines-offering-hope-to-us-all/" rel="nofollow">The Bug</a> that&#39;s old enough to drink and drive, but hopefully not at the same time!</li>
<li>Dan <a href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux#w_install-firefox-from-mozilla-builds" rel="nofollow">installed Firefox</a> from the <code>.tar.gz</code> download.

<ul>
<li>Spoiler - it updates just fine because my user is the owner in the <code>/opt</code> directory.</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>The letters W, V, X, C, D and E</li>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of The <a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/" rel="nofollow">Common Desktop Environment (CDE)</a></h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120717074939/http://www.cmu.edu/corporate/news/2007/features/andrew/what_is_andrew.shtml" rel="nofollow">Andrew Project</a></li>
<li>W was a windowing system that was originally <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040522163027/http://eia.udg.es/%7Eteo/sd/documents/articles/p314-cheriton.pdf" rel="nofollow">written for the V operating system</a>.</li>
<li>In 1984, Robert Scheifler <a href="https://www.talisman.org/x-debut.shtml" rel="nofollow">wrote</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/22949.24053" rel="nofollow">X is our “reaction” to W </a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrix_Window_Manager" rel="nofollow">Ultrix Window Manager</a>, or <code>uwm</code></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm" rel="nofollow">Tom&#39;s Window Manager, which eventually became Tab Window Manager</a>, or <code>twm</code></li>
<li><a href="https://archive.org/details/openlookgraphica00sunm" rel="nofollow">Open Look Specification</a></li>
<li>The OSF <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=szsEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=open%20look&f=false" rel="nofollow">narrows the search for a User Interface</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Company-Publications/HP-Journal/90s/HPJ-1990-06.pdf" rel="nofollow">HP</a> and Microsoft&#39;s CXI and DEC&#39;s XUI to create the HP OSF/Motif Window Manager.</li>
<li>Sun went on to build <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWindows" rel="nofollow">OpenWindows</a>, which was X with OPEN LOOK on top to replace <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunView" rel="nofollow">SunView</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Open_Software_Environment" rel="nofollow">COSE</a></li>
<li>In 1994, The OSF and Unix International, a body meant to standardize UNIX, <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.osf.misc/c/Q2uTrTvB8bY/m/8SMI8V-JvE4J" rel="nofollow">merged</a>, and in 96, <a href="https://www.tech-insider.org/unix/research/1996/0214.html" rel="nofollow">merged again</a> with X/Open into The Open Group.</li>
<li>Motif and CDE <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/cu.motif-talk/c/xMQ-2cBi9bU/m/_VTikcvANZkJ" rel="nofollow">became one</a></li>
<li><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/de.comp.os.linux.misc/c/SDbiV3Iat_s/m/zv_D_2ctS8sJ" rel="nofollow">KDE enters the scene</a>.</li>
<li>May of 2000 when Motif <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20131003125200/https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=comp.windows.x.announce/K2LrU6QusnA/5fRzz-NBIrAJ" rel="nofollow">was released</a> as OpenMotif.</li>
<li>LessTif, because Less is Mo, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000619030034/http://www.lesstif.org/future.html" rel="nofollow">published an initial statement</a></li>
<li>August 6th, 2012, CDE was <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121124230739/http://devio.us/%7Ekpedersen/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1293" rel="nofollow">relicensed</a> under the LGPL and was available on SourceForge, where it still lives today.</li>
<li>After opening it up, 2.2.1 was released on <a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/32043063/" rel="nofollow">March 1st, 2014</a>.</li>
<li>The final release, at least as of this recording, <a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/37715846/" rel="nofollow">2.5.1</a>, dropped in October of 2022.</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
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<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the <a href="https://xfce.org/" rel="nofollow">Xfce Desktop Environment</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

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<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>We do a little upgrade</li>
<li>Firefox fixes a tooltip</li>
<li>The History of W, V, X and CDE</li>
<li>How it went</li>
<li>And a new old desktop to explore</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:42 Lemmy&#39;s Upgraded!<br>
10:56 A 22 Year Old Bug<br>
15:50 Install Firefox Correctly<br>
22:22 CDE History: Intro<br>
24:04 CDE History: X<br>
27:33 CDE History: OPEN LOOK<br>
29:25 CDE History: COSE<br>
31:28 CDE History: CDE &amp; Others<br>
34:24 CDE History: The Opening<br>
36:14 CDE History: The Releases<br>
43:02 How&#39;d CDE Go?<br>
1:16:00 Next Time<br>
1:21:29 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q" rel="nofollow"><strong>Watch the video!</strong></a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">LUS Lemmy instance</a> got an <a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/releases/tag/1.2.0" rel="nofollow">update</a>.

<ul>
<li>The ansible repo switched to tagged releases. There were ⚠️breaking changes⚠️ that needed to be <a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/blob/main/README.md#upgrading" rel="nofollow">prepared for</a>.</li>
<li>One of the issues Dan had is likely <a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/commit/300a261b2a346dd6489f5eb43d6af632633f4059" rel="nofollow">fixed now.</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/22-year-old-firefox-tooltip-bug-fixed-in-a-few-lines-offering-hope-to-us-all/" rel="nofollow">The Bug</a> that&#39;s old enough to drink and drive, but hopefully not at the same time!</li>
<li>Dan <a href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux#w_install-firefox-from-mozilla-builds" rel="nofollow">installed Firefox</a> from the <code>.tar.gz</code> download.

<ul>
<li>Spoiler - it updates just fine because my user is the owner in the <code>/opt</code> directory.</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>The letters W, V, X, C, D and E</li>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of The <a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/" rel="nofollow">Common Desktop Environment (CDE)</a></h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120717074939/http://www.cmu.edu/corporate/news/2007/features/andrew/what_is_andrew.shtml" rel="nofollow">Andrew Project</a></li>
<li>W was a windowing system that was originally <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040522163027/http://eia.udg.es/%7Eteo/sd/documents/articles/p314-cheriton.pdf" rel="nofollow">written for the V operating system</a>.</li>
<li>In 1984, Robert Scheifler <a href="https://www.talisman.org/x-debut.shtml" rel="nofollow">wrote</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/22949.24053" rel="nofollow">X is our “reaction” to W </a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrix_Window_Manager" rel="nofollow">Ultrix Window Manager</a>, or <code>uwm</code></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm" rel="nofollow">Tom&#39;s Window Manager, which eventually became Tab Window Manager</a>, or <code>twm</code></li>
<li><a href="https://archive.org/details/openlookgraphica00sunm" rel="nofollow">Open Look Specification</a></li>
<li>The OSF <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=szsEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=open%20look&f=false" rel="nofollow">narrows the search for a User Interface</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Company-Publications/HP-Journal/90s/HPJ-1990-06.pdf" rel="nofollow">HP</a> and Microsoft&#39;s CXI and DEC&#39;s XUI to create the HP OSF/Motif Window Manager.</li>
<li>Sun went on to build <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWindows" rel="nofollow">OpenWindows</a>, which was X with OPEN LOOK on top to replace <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunView" rel="nofollow">SunView</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Open_Software_Environment" rel="nofollow">COSE</a></li>
<li>In 1994, The OSF and Unix International, a body meant to standardize UNIX, <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.osf.misc/c/Q2uTrTvB8bY/m/8SMI8V-JvE4J" rel="nofollow">merged</a>, and in 96, <a href="https://www.tech-insider.org/unix/research/1996/0214.html" rel="nofollow">merged again</a> with X/Open into The Open Group.</li>
<li>Motif and CDE <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/cu.motif-talk/c/xMQ-2cBi9bU/m/_VTikcvANZkJ" rel="nofollow">became one</a></li>
<li><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/de.comp.os.linux.misc/c/SDbiV3Iat_s/m/zv_D_2ctS8sJ" rel="nofollow">KDE enters the scene</a>.</li>
<li>May of 2000 when Motif <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20131003125200/https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=comp.windows.x.announce/K2LrU6QusnA/5fRzz-NBIrAJ" rel="nofollow">was released</a> as OpenMotif.</li>
<li>LessTif, because Less is Mo, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000619030034/http://www.lesstif.org/future.html" rel="nofollow">published an initial statement</a></li>
<li>August 6th, 2012, CDE was <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121124230739/http://devio.us/%7Ekpedersen/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1293" rel="nofollow">relicensed</a> under the LGPL and was available on SourceForge, where it still lives today.</li>
<li>After opening it up, 2.2.1 was released on <a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/32043063/" rel="nofollow">March 1st, 2014</a>.</li>
<li>The final release, at least as of this recording, <a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/37715846/" rel="nofollow">2.5.1</a>, dropped in October of 2022.</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
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<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the <a href="https://xfce.org/" rel="nofollow">Xfce Desktop Environment</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
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<li>A.J.</li>
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<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
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<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
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  <title>Episode 4:01: RHEL Tough Choices</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2023 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky. In this episode we discuss recent RHEL changes, browser happenings, and go over some feedback. We also pitch a new podcast in the community and give our Lemmy app choices.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:38:20</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Catchup Episode (We've missed so much!)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Red Hat Recap&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Browser Watch...ing!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Some feedback, and a focus&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Video Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;401 Audio Timestamps&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
2:16 The Gentoo Checkin&lt;br&gt;
11:33 We Have a Lemmy!&lt;br&gt;
19:24 Red Hat Recap&lt;br&gt;
46:09 Browser Watch&lt;br&gt;
1:05:21 Feedback&lt;br&gt;
1:23:05 Community Focus: Linux Matters&lt;br&gt;
1:27:03 App Focus: Jerboa &amp;amp; Memmy&lt;br&gt;
1:34:48 Next Time: Debian&lt;br&gt;
1:37:09 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Banter&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gentoo check in - Use the &lt;a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Handbook!&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The wiki&lt;/a&gt; is just great in general.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://join-lemmy.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Linux User Space Lemmy instance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;feddit's &lt;a href="https://browse.feddit.de/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;community browser&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://lemmyverse.net/communities" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Another Lemmy explorer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Give us a sub on &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ You can watch us live on &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt; the day after an episode drops.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;😍 If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

RH takes their source and goes home

&lt;h3&gt;2019&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;July - IBM completed its acquisition of Red Hat. Jim Whitehurst &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ibm-closes-landmark-acquisition-red-hat-34-billion-defines-open-hybrid-cloud-future" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;said at the time&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;2020&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;December - CentOS Stream &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;announced as the successor&lt;/a&gt; to CentOS Linux.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://centos.org/distro-faq/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;an FAQ&lt;/a&gt; linked in the CentOS &lt;a href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;announcement about Stream&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;2021&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;January - Red Hat &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;announces &lt;em&gt;more free RHEL&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;February - Brian Exelbierd &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230621142027/https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/02/03/a-guide-for-using-centos-project-code" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;noted on the Red Hat Developer site&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;March - Alma Linux 8.3 &lt;a href="https://almalinux.org/blog/almalinux-os-stable-release-is-live/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;was released&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;June - Rocky Linux followed with their &lt;a href="https://rockylinux.org/news/rocky-linux-8-4-ga-release/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;8.4 release&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;2022&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Red Hat was &lt;a href="https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article271678707.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;posting 15% revenue increases&lt;/a&gt; every quarter of the year.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM, despite its projected &lt;a href="https://www.ibm.com/investor/att/pdf/IBM-4Q22-Earnings-Prepared-Remarks.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;3900 person layoff&lt;/a&gt; was growing at similar rates.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;2023&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;April - &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/message-red-hat-associates-today" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Red Hat announement&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ben Cotton and others were &lt;a href="https://funnelfiasco.com/blog/2023/05/12/inaction-bcotton/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;laid off&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;June - Red Hat announce that CentOS &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;sources will no longer be on github&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brian Exelbierd's post from February 2021 &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230621142027/https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/02/03/a-guide-for-using-centos-project-code" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;changed&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mike McGrath &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;writes a clarification post&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rocky Linux announces that they'll possibly be &lt;a href="https://rockylinux.org/news/keeping-open-source-open/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;using the Universal Base Images&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;July - Alma Linux &lt;a href="https://almalinux.org/blog/future-of-almalinux/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;no longer aims&lt;/a&gt; for bug-for-bug compatibility.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;SUSE and Oracle&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.oracle.com/news/announcement/blog/keep-linux-open-and-free-2023-07-10/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Oracle's press release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.oracle.com/linux/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Oracle Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.suse.com/c/navigating-changes-in-the-open-source-landscape/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;SUSE's statement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.suse.com/products/suse-liberty-linux/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;SUSE Liberty Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.suse.com/products/suse-manager/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;SUSE Manager&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;More Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt; OR jump on over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;open forum on Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Browser Watch&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.0/releasenotes/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Firefox 115&lt;/a&gt; brings hardware video decoding for Intel GPUs and more.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vivaldi 6.1 they &lt;a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-6-1/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;found a way&lt;/a&gt; to use Bing Chat.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Edge &lt;a href="https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2023/07/06/fighting-notification-spam-microsoft-edge/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;blocks notification spam&lt;/a&gt;, now!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opera is &lt;a href="https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;relaunching as Opera One&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Feedback&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Sebastian&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://serenityos.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;SerenityOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ladybird Browser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Andreas Kling on YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Rich&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/greenbone" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Greenbone Open Source Vulnerability Management&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Leo recommends &lt;a href="http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Linux Commandline by Willian Shotts&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan recommends &lt;a href="https://www.learnlinux.tv/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Learn Linux TV&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If there is something specific you want to know more about let us know.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Scout&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/business-solutions/elitedesk-800-mini" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;HP Elite Mini 800 PCs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkCentre/ThinkCentre_M75q_Gen_2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lenovo M75q Mini PCs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/sr/desktops/optiplex-desktops/micro?appliedRefinements=41015" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dell OptiPlex Micro PCs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://www.a11yproject.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;a11y project&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Orca is part of Gnome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Other Gnome accessibility tools&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://userbase.kde.org/Applications/Accessibility" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;KDE accessibility tools&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗞️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Linux Matters Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/latenightlinux" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/episode/index.xml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RSS feed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;App Focus &lt;strong&gt;Jerboa and Memmy&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jerboa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jerboa in the Google Play Store&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://f-droid.org/packages/com.jerboa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jerboa in FDroid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jerboa GitHub repo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/memmy-for-lemmy/id6450204299" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Memmy in the Apple store&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/Memmy-App/memmy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Memmy GitHub repo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Next Time&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The history of &lt;a href="https://www.debian.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Debian&lt;/a&gt;, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show&lt;/strong&gt;*&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bjørnar&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Catchup Episode (We&#39;ve missed so much!)</li>
<li>The Red Hat Recap</li>
<li>Browser Watch...ing!</li>
<li>Some feedback, and a focus</li>
</ul>

<p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8" rel="nofollow">The Video Podcast</a></strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8</a></p>

<p><strong>401 Audio Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
2:16 The Gentoo Checkin<br>
11:33 We Have a Lemmy!<br>
19:24 Red Hat Recap<br>
46:09 Browser Watch<br>
1:05:21 Feedback<br>
1:23:05 Community Focus: Linux Matters<br>
1:27:03 App Focus: Jerboa &amp; Memmy<br>
1:34:48 Next Time: Debian<br>
1:37:09 Stinger</p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li>Gentoo check in - Use the <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page" rel="nofollow">Handbook!</a> <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">The wiki</a> is just great in general.</li>
<li><a href="https://join-lemmy.org/" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/" rel="nofollow">The Linux User Space Lemmy instance</a></li>
<li>feddit&#39;s <a href="https://browse.feddit.de/" rel="nofollow">community browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lemmyverse.net/communities" rel="nofollow">Another Lemmy explorer</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>📺️ Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a>.</li>
<li>📽️ You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>😍 If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>RH takes their source and goes home</h1>

<h3>2019</h3>

<ul>
<li>July - IBM completed its acquisition of Red Hat. Jim Whitehurst <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ibm-closes-landmark-acquisition-red-hat-34-billion-defines-open-hybrid-cloud-future" rel="nofollow">said at the time</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h3>2020</h3>

<ul>
<li>December - CentOS Stream <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux" rel="nofollow">announced as the successor</a> to CentOS Linux.</li>
<li><a href="https://centos.org/distro-faq/" rel="nofollow">an FAQ</a> linked in the CentOS <a href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream" rel="nofollow">announcement about Stream</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>2021</h3>

<ul>
<li>January - Red Hat <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel" rel="nofollow">announces <em>more free RHEL</em></a>.</li>
<li>February - Brian Exelbierd <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230621142027/https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/02/03/a-guide-for-using-centos-project-code" rel="nofollow">noted on the Red Hat Developer site</a>.</li>
<li>March - Alma Linux 8.3 <a href="https://almalinux.org/blog/almalinux-os-stable-release-is-live/" rel="nofollow">was released</a></li>
<li>June - Rocky Linux followed with their <a href="https://rockylinux.org/news/rocky-linux-8-4-ga-release/" rel="nofollow">8.4 release</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>2022</h3>

<ul>
<li>Red Hat was <a href="https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article271678707.html" rel="nofollow">posting 15% revenue increases</a> every quarter of the year.</li>
<li>IBM, despite its projected <a href="https://www.ibm.com/investor/att/pdf/IBM-4Q22-Earnings-Prepared-Remarks.pdf" rel="nofollow">3900 person layoff</a> was growing at similar rates.</li>
</ul>

<h3>2023</h3>

<ul>
<li>April - <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/message-red-hat-associates-today" rel="nofollow">Red Hat announement</a></li>
<li>Ben Cotton and others were <a href="https://funnelfiasco.com/blog/2023/05/12/inaction-bcotton/" rel="nofollow">laid off</a>.</li>
<li>June - Red Hat announce that CentOS <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream" rel="nofollow">sources will no longer be on github</a></li>
<li>Brian Exelbierd&#39;s post from February 2021 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230621142027/https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/02/03/a-guide-for-using-centos-project-code" rel="nofollow">changed</a>.</li>
<li>Mike McGrath <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes" rel="nofollow">writes a clarification post</a></li>
<li>Rocky Linux announces that they&#39;ll possibly be <a href="https://rockylinux.org/news/keeping-open-source-open/" rel="nofollow">using the Universal Base Images</a></li>
<li>July - Alma Linux <a href="https://almalinux.org/blog/future-of-almalinux/" rel="nofollow">no longer aims</a> for bug-for-bug compatibility.</li>
</ul>

<h3>SUSE and Oracle</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/news/announcement/blog/keep-linux-open-and-free-2023-07-10/" rel="nofollow">Oracle&#39;s press release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/linux/" rel="nofollow">Oracle Linux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.suse.com/c/navigating-changes-in-the-open-source-landscape/" rel="nofollow">SUSE&#39;s statement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.suse.com/products/suse-liberty-linux/" rel="nofollow">SUSE Liberty Linux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.suse.com/products/suse-manager/" rel="nofollow">SUSE Manager</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Browser Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.0/releasenotes/" rel="nofollow">Firefox 115</a> brings hardware video decoding for Intel GPUs and more.</li>
<li>Vivaldi 6.1 they <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-6-1/" rel="nofollow">found a way</a> to use Bing Chat.</li>
<li>Edge <a href="https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2023/07/06/fighting-notification-spam-microsoft-edge/" rel="nofollow">blocks notification spam</a>, now!</li>
<li>Opera is <a href="https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/" rel="nofollow">relaunching as Opera One</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h4>Sebastian</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://serenityos.org/" rel="nofollow">SerenityOS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/" rel="nofollow">Ladybird Browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling" rel="nofollow">Andreas Kling on YouTube</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Rich</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/greenbone" rel="nofollow">Greenbone Open Source Vulnerability Management</a></li>
<li>Leo recommends <a href="http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php/" rel="nofollow">The Linux Commandline by Willian Shotts</a></li>
<li>Dan recommends <a href="https://www.learnlinux.tv/" rel="nofollow">Learn Linux TV</a></li>
<li>If there is something specific you want to know more about let us know.</li>
</ul>

<h4>Scout</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/business-solutions/elitedesk-800-mini" rel="nofollow">HP Elite Mini 800 PCs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkCentre/ThinkCentre_M75q_Gen_2" rel="nofollow">Lenovo M75q Mini PCs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/sr/desktops/optiplex-desktops/micro?appliedRefinements=41015" rel="nofollow">Dell OptiPlex Micro PCs</a></li>
<li>The <a href="https://www.a11yproject.com/" rel="nofollow">a11y project</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca" rel="nofollow">Orca is part of Gnome</a></li>
<li><a href="https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html" rel="nofollow">Other Gnome accessibility tools</a></li>
<li><a href="https://userbase.kde.org/Applications/Accessibility" rel="nofollow">KDE accessibility tools</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2><a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/" rel="nofollow">Linux Matters Podcast</a></h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/" rel="nofollow">Website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/latenightlinux" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/episode/index.xml" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>App Focus <strong>Jerboa and Memmy</strong></h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jerboa" rel="nofollow">Jerboa in the Google Play Store</a></li>
<li><a href="https://f-droid.org/packages/com.jerboa" rel="nofollow">Jerboa in FDroid</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa" rel="nofollow">Jerboa GitHub repo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/memmy-for-lemmy/id6450204299" rel="nofollow">Memmy in the Apple store</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/Memmy-App/memmy" rel="nofollow">Memmy GitHub repo</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>The history of <a href="https://www.debian.org/" rel="nofollow">Debian</a>, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show</strong>*</p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Catchup Episode (We&#39;ve missed so much!)</li>
<li>The Red Hat Recap</li>
<li>Browser Watch...ing!</li>
<li>Some feedback, and a focus</li>
</ul>

<p><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8" rel="nofollow">The Video Podcast</a></strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8</a></p>

<p><strong>401 Audio Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
2:16 The Gentoo Checkin<br>
11:33 We Have a Lemmy!<br>
19:24 Red Hat Recap<br>
46:09 Browser Watch<br>
1:05:21 Feedback<br>
1:23:05 Community Focus: Linux Matters<br>
1:27:03 App Focus: Jerboa &amp; Memmy<br>
1:34:48 Next Time: Debian<br>
1:37:09 Stinger</p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li>Gentoo check in - Use the <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page" rel="nofollow">Handbook!</a> <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">The wiki</a> is just great in general.</li>
<li><a href="https://join-lemmy.org/" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/" rel="nofollow">The Linux User Space Lemmy instance</a></li>
<li>feddit&#39;s <a href="https://browse.feddit.de/" rel="nofollow">community browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lemmyverse.net/communities" rel="nofollow">Another Lemmy explorer</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>📺️ Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a>.</li>
<li>📽️ You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>😍 If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>RH takes their source and goes home</h1>

<h3>2019</h3>

<ul>
<li>July - IBM completed its acquisition of Red Hat. Jim Whitehurst <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ibm-closes-landmark-acquisition-red-hat-34-billion-defines-open-hybrid-cloud-future" rel="nofollow">said at the time</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h3>2020</h3>

<ul>
<li>December - CentOS Stream <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux" rel="nofollow">announced as the successor</a> to CentOS Linux.</li>
<li><a href="https://centos.org/distro-faq/" rel="nofollow">an FAQ</a> linked in the CentOS <a href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream" rel="nofollow">announcement about Stream</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>2021</h3>

<ul>
<li>January - Red Hat <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel" rel="nofollow">announces <em>more free RHEL</em></a>.</li>
<li>February - Brian Exelbierd <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230621142027/https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/02/03/a-guide-for-using-centos-project-code" rel="nofollow">noted on the Red Hat Developer site</a>.</li>
<li>March - Alma Linux 8.3 <a href="https://almalinux.org/blog/almalinux-os-stable-release-is-live/" rel="nofollow">was released</a></li>
<li>June - Rocky Linux followed with their <a href="https://rockylinux.org/news/rocky-linux-8-4-ga-release/" rel="nofollow">8.4 release</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>2022</h3>

<ul>
<li>Red Hat was <a href="https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article271678707.html" rel="nofollow">posting 15% revenue increases</a> every quarter of the year.</li>
<li>IBM, despite its projected <a href="https://www.ibm.com/investor/att/pdf/IBM-4Q22-Earnings-Prepared-Remarks.pdf" rel="nofollow">3900 person layoff</a> was growing at similar rates.</li>
</ul>

<h3>2023</h3>

<ul>
<li>April - <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/message-red-hat-associates-today" rel="nofollow">Red Hat announement</a></li>
<li>Ben Cotton and others were <a href="https://funnelfiasco.com/blog/2023/05/12/inaction-bcotton/" rel="nofollow">laid off</a>.</li>
<li>June - Red Hat announce that CentOS <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream" rel="nofollow">sources will no longer be on github</a></li>
<li>Brian Exelbierd&#39;s post from February 2021 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230621142027/https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/02/03/a-guide-for-using-centos-project-code" rel="nofollow">changed</a>.</li>
<li>Mike McGrath <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes" rel="nofollow">writes a clarification post</a></li>
<li>Rocky Linux announces that they&#39;ll possibly be <a href="https://rockylinux.org/news/keeping-open-source-open/" rel="nofollow">using the Universal Base Images</a></li>
<li>July - Alma Linux <a href="https://almalinux.org/blog/future-of-almalinux/" rel="nofollow">no longer aims</a> for bug-for-bug compatibility.</li>
</ul>

<h3>SUSE and Oracle</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/news/announcement/blog/keep-linux-open-and-free-2023-07-10/" rel="nofollow">Oracle&#39;s press release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/linux/" rel="nofollow">Oracle Linux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.suse.com/c/navigating-changes-in-the-open-source-landscape/" rel="nofollow">SUSE&#39;s statement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.suse.com/products/suse-liberty-linux/" rel="nofollow">SUSE Liberty Linux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.suse.com/products/suse-manager/" rel="nofollow">SUSE Manager</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Browser Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.0/releasenotes/" rel="nofollow">Firefox 115</a> brings hardware video decoding for Intel GPUs and more.</li>
<li>Vivaldi 6.1 they <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-6-1/" rel="nofollow">found a way</a> to use Bing Chat.</li>
<li>Edge <a href="https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2023/07/06/fighting-notification-spam-microsoft-edge/" rel="nofollow">blocks notification spam</a>, now!</li>
<li>Opera is <a href="https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/" rel="nofollow">relaunching as Opera One</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h4>Sebastian</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://serenityos.org/" rel="nofollow">SerenityOS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/" rel="nofollow">Ladybird Browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling" rel="nofollow">Andreas Kling on YouTube</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Rich</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/greenbone" rel="nofollow">Greenbone Open Source Vulnerability Management</a></li>
<li>Leo recommends <a href="http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php/" rel="nofollow">The Linux Commandline by Willian Shotts</a></li>
<li>Dan recommends <a href="https://www.learnlinux.tv/" rel="nofollow">Learn Linux TV</a></li>
<li>If there is something specific you want to know more about let us know.</li>
</ul>

<h4>Scout</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/business-solutions/elitedesk-800-mini" rel="nofollow">HP Elite Mini 800 PCs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkCentre/ThinkCentre_M75q_Gen_2" rel="nofollow">Lenovo M75q Mini PCs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/sr/desktops/optiplex-desktops/micro?appliedRefinements=41015" rel="nofollow">Dell OptiPlex Micro PCs</a></li>
<li>The <a href="https://www.a11yproject.com/" rel="nofollow">a11y project</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca" rel="nofollow">Orca is part of Gnome</a></li>
<li><a href="https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html" rel="nofollow">Other Gnome accessibility tools</a></li>
<li><a href="https://userbase.kde.org/Applications/Accessibility" rel="nofollow">KDE accessibility tools</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2><a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/" rel="nofollow">Linux Matters Podcast</a></h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/" rel="nofollow">Website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/latenightlinux" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linuxmatters.sh/episode/index.xml" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>App Focus <strong>Jerboa and Memmy</strong></h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jerboa" rel="nofollow">Jerboa in the Google Play Store</a></li>
<li><a href="https://f-droid.org/packages/com.jerboa" rel="nofollow">Jerboa in FDroid</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa" rel="nofollow">Jerboa GitHub repo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/memmy-for-lemmy/id6450204299" rel="nofollow">Memmy in the Apple store</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/Memmy-App/memmy" rel="nofollow">Memmy GitHub repo</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>The history of <a href="https://www.debian.org/" rel="nofollow">Debian</a>, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show</strong>*</p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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