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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we cover, Fedora and AI, correct ourselves on SecureBlue, and UNIX Wars part deux.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* We put a hat on AI
* The SecureBlue/ublue thing
* The UNIX Wars part deux
0:00 Cold Open
1:49 Artificial Fedora
28:35 The ImmutaBlues
54:01 Feedback
55:20 Tane on Notes and Unix
59:28 Ian on Unix
1:02:33 Chris on Notes and Sync
1:10:22 A Quick Release Update
1:14:41 Next Time
1:18:03 Stinger
The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU)
https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU
Support us here! (https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace)
https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace
AI dons a hat 🤖🎩
Matthew Miller on AI in Fedora (https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/strategy-2028-april-2024-update/)
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
* 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace)
* 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
Course correction on Secureblue
We messed up but RoyalOughtness (https://github.com/qoijjj), the creator of Secureblue, set us straight.
Atomic Fedora is the start of the pipeline: (https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/how-to-rebase-to-universal-blues-base-images/868)
xkbcat (https://github.com/anko/xkbcat)
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Reverb Focus
Tane via Email
Tane uses Nextcloud Notes (https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/notes)
Also Iotas (https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/iotas)
Unix Wars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars)
The terms of the Open Group (Open Group https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html)
Current Open Group members (https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/)
Ian via email
BSD, AIX, HP-UX and similar are all as UNIX as you can get these days.  They started out as licensed UNIX  Operating Systems with a direct IP license from AT&amp;amp;T and passed whatever requirements AT&amp;amp;T had at the time.
Chris via email
Obsidian (https://obsidian.md/) is not FOSS.
Logseq (https://logseq.com/) is overwhelming at first but good now.
🧹Housekeeping🧹
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
* 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon)
* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to explore and provide the history of XZ Utils (https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz).
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
Dave
John
Johnny
Co-Producer
Tim
GrouchyM
Super User
A.J.
Advait
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
Hausken
Jeff3ix
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Nicholas
Nick
pjol
sleepyeyesvince
The Saigoneer
Tobias 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>We put a hat on AI</li>
<li>The SecureBlue/ublue thing</li>
<li>The UNIX Wars part deux</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:49 Artificial Fedora<br>
28:35 The ImmutaBlues<br>
54:01 Feedback<br>
55:20 Tane on Notes and Unix<br>
59:28 Ian on Unix<br>
1:02:33 Chris on Notes and Sync<br>
1:10:22 A Quick Release Update<br>
1:14:41 Next Time<br>
1:18:03 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU" rel="nofollow">The Video Version!</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Support us here!</a><br>
<a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></p>

<h2>AI dons a hat 🤖🎩</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/strategy-2028-april-2024-update/" rel="nofollow">Matthew Miller on AI in Fedora</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Course correction on Secureblue</h2>

<ul>
<li>We messed up but <a href="https://github.com/qoijjj" rel="nofollow">RoyalOughtness</a>, the creator of Secureblue, set us straight.</li>
<li>Atomic Fedora is the <a href="https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/how-to-rebase-to-universal-blues-base-images/868" rel="nofollow">start of the pipeline:</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/anko/xkbcat" rel="nofollow">xkbcat</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Reverb Focus</h2>

<h3>Tane via Email</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tane uses <a href="https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/notes" rel="nofollow">Nextcloud Notes</a></li>
<li>Also <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/iotas" rel="nofollow">Iotas</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars" rel="nofollow">Unix Wars</a></li>
<li>[The terms of the Open Group](Open Group <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/" rel="nofollow">Current Open Group members</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Ian via email</h3>

<ul>
<li>BSD, AIX, HP-UX and similar are all as UNIX as you can get these days.  They started out as licensed UNIX  Operating Systems with a direct IP license from AT&amp;T and passed whatever requirements AT&amp;T had at the time.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Chris via email</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://obsidian.md/" rel="nofollow">Obsidian</a> is not FOSS.</li>
<li><a href="https://logseq.com/" rel="nofollow">Logseq</a> is overwhelming at first but good now.</li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to explore and provide the history of <a href="https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz" rel="nofollow">XZ Utils</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>pjol</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>We put a hat on AI</li>
<li>The SecureBlue/ublue thing</li>
<li>The UNIX Wars part deux</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:49 Artificial Fedora<br>
28:35 The ImmutaBlues<br>
54:01 Feedback<br>
55:20 Tane on Notes and Unix<br>
59:28 Ian on Unix<br>
1:02:33 Chris on Notes and Sync<br>
1:10:22 A Quick Release Update<br>
1:14:41 Next Time<br>
1:18:03 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU" rel="nofollow">The Video Version!</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Support us here!</a><br>
<a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></p>

<h2>AI dons a hat 🤖🎩</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/strategy-2028-april-2024-update/" rel="nofollow">Matthew Miller on AI in Fedora</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Course correction on Secureblue</h2>

<ul>
<li>We messed up but <a href="https://github.com/qoijjj" rel="nofollow">RoyalOughtness</a>, the creator of Secureblue, set us straight.</li>
<li>Atomic Fedora is the <a href="https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/how-to-rebase-to-universal-blues-base-images/868" rel="nofollow">start of the pipeline:</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/anko/xkbcat" rel="nofollow">xkbcat</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Reverb Focus</h2>

<h3>Tane via Email</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tane uses <a href="https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/notes" rel="nofollow">Nextcloud Notes</a></li>
<li>Also <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/iotas" rel="nofollow">Iotas</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars" rel="nofollow">Unix Wars</a></li>
<li>[The terms of the Open Group](Open Group <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/" rel="nofollow">Current Open Group members</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Ian via email</h3>

<ul>
<li>BSD, AIX, HP-UX and similar are all as UNIX as you can get these days.  They started out as licensed UNIX  Operating Systems with a direct IP license from AT&amp;T and passed whatever requirements AT&amp;T had at the time.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Chris via email</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://obsidian.md/" rel="nofollow">Obsidian</a> is not FOSS.</li>
<li><a href="https://logseq.com/" rel="nofollow">Logseq</a> is overwhelming at first but good now.</li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to explore and provide the history of <a href="https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz" rel="nofollow">XZ Utils</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>pjol</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 4:04: Happy Rebasing to Everyone!</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Linux User Space</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky. In this episode we discuss Fedora Silverblue and other Fedora based immutable desktops. We give the history and talk about our experience.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* The prying eyes wanna know 👀
* The History of Silverblue
* What's immutable anyway?
* and how we layered a few packages
0:00 Cold Open
1:44 Telemetry Trouble
27:45 Silverblue 2012
30:49 Silverblue 2013-2014
33:55 Silverblue 2015-2017
34:50 Silverblue 2018
38:25 Silverblue 2019-2021
39:56 Silverblue 2022-2023
41:47 An Immutability Primer?
1:01:39 How'd Silverblue Go?
1:28:42 Next Time: Topics &amp;amp; CDE
1:33:04 Stinger
The video version! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU
Banter
Fedora considers adding telemetry (https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/fedora_privacy_telemetry/)
Fedora Wiki on the proposal (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry)
Endless OS's optional telemetry (https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2023/07/05/endless-oss-privacy-preserving-metrics-system/)
Discussion thread (https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320/774)
Announcements
This program was made possible by:
* 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace)
* 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
The History of Fedora Silverblue
Multiple Bootable Roots (https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/OSTree/NixOSComparison)
From GUADEC 2012 - OSTree (https://lwn.net/Articles/511877/#walters)
Gnome Continuous (https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeContinuous)
Walters described (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0ZEHPXJ9Q) OSTree as "a magic formula."
March 20, 2013 - Docker is born (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software))
CoreOS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_Linux) sees its first public release in October of 2013.
Red Hat official inclusion (https://web.archive.org/web/20131128171128/http://developerblog.redhat.com/2013/11/26/rhel6-5-ga/) of Docker with RHEL 6.5
April 2014 - Project Atomic (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/04/announcing-project-atomic/)
The actual distro building was left (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/05/the-difference-between-project-atomic-and-atomic-hosts/) to the actual distro projects.
Instructions to build on top of Fedora 20 (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/04/build-your-own-atomic-host-on-fedora-20/)
CENTOS and RHEL partner (https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html) which began the journey to Atomic Host (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/06/centos-atomic-host-sig-propposed/).
A Fedora Atomic Host installable ISO becomes available (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/07/new-fedora-atomic-installable-iso/) based on Rawhide.
August 2014 - CentOS Atomic Host alpha builds were available (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/08/centos-7-alpha-builds-for-atomic/).
December 2014 - Fedora 21 releases with Atomic Host images (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/12/fedora-21-goes-gold-with-atomic-images/).
March 2015 - Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host released (https://web.archive.org/web/20150312173742/http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/03/05/announcement-rhel-atomic-host-ga/).
July 2015 - Package layering (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2016/07/hacking-and-extending-atomic-host/) was introduced.
Atomic Hosts came and went, including (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Two_Week_Atomic) bi-weekly releases (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2015/12/fedora-atomic-host-two-week-release-ready/)
2016 - XDG-App was renamed Flatpak (https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/flatpak/2016-May/000204.html).
2018 - CoreOS Docker platform was acquired by Red Hat (https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-acquire-coreos-expanding-its-kubernetes-and-containers-leadership) in January. It became, Red Hat CoreOS (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2018/05/welcome-redhat-coreos/).
The Fedora flavor would live on as... Team Silverblue (https://web.archive.org/web/20180505090226/https://www.teamsilverblue.org/).
The domain name and handles around the web were available (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/_attachments/team-silverblue-origins.pdf)
It was almost called Silverleaf (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/faq/)
October 30, 2018 - Fedora 29 was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20190407211446/https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/) with a Silverblue variant. Matthew Miller on Fedora Magazine noted (https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-29/).
The Fedora Council made the decision (https://web.archive.org/web/20191121020222/https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedoras-strategic-direction-an-update-from-the-council/796) to tighten things up regarding naming.
2019 - Fedora 30 and the Silverblue variant were released (https://web.archive.org/web/20201201201318/https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/)
2021 - Silverblue 35 in November, Fedora Kinoite (https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/) appears.
2023 - Silverblue 38 in April, Fedora Sericea (https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/) appears.
Further Reading
Fedora Silverblue Technical information (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/technical-information/)
rpm-ostree documentation (https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/)
Vanilla OS documentation (https://documentation.vanillaos.org/)
ABRoot (https://github.com/Vanilla-OS/ABRoot)
blendOS documentation (https://docs.blendos.co/docs/intro)
libostree (https://ostreedev.github.io/ostree/)
Sodalite (https://github.com/sodaliterocks/)
Bazzite (https://bazzite.gg/)
Universal Blue (https://universal-blue.org/)
More Announcements
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Housekeeping
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
* 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon)
* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
Next Time
Some topics and some feedback. Our next distro isn't a distro, what? We plan to explore and provide the history of CDE or Common Desktop Environment (https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/).
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
Dave
John
Johnny
Co-Producer
Tim
Super User
A.J.
Advait
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
Hausken
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Nicholas
Nick
sleepyeyesvince 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The prying eyes wanna know 👀</li>
<li>The History of Silverblue</li>
<li>What&#39;s immutable anyway?</li>
<li>and how we layered a few packages</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:44 Telemetry Trouble<br>
27:45 Silverblue 2012<br>
30:49 Silverblue 2013-2014<br>
33:55 Silverblue 2015-2017<br>
34:50 Silverblue 2018<br>
38:25 Silverblue 2019-2021<br>
39:56 Silverblue 2022-2023<br>
41:47 An Immutability Primer?<br>
1:01:39 How&#39;d Silverblue Go?<br>
1:28:42 Next Time: Topics &amp; CDE<br>
1:33:04 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU" rel="nofollow"><strong>The video version!</strong></a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/fedora_privacy_telemetry/" rel="nofollow">Fedora considers adding telemetry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry" rel="nofollow">Fedora Wiki on the proposal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2023/07/05/endless-oss-privacy-preserving-metrics-system/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS&#39;s optional telemetry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320/774" rel="nofollow">Discussion thread</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of Fedora Silverblue</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/OSTree/NixOSComparison" rel="nofollow">Multiple Bootable Roots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/511877/#walters" rel="nofollow">From GUADEC 2012 - OSTree</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeContinuous" rel="nofollow">Gnome Continuous</a></li>
<li>Walters <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0ZEHPXJ9Q" rel="nofollow">described</a> OSTree as &quot;a magic formula.&quot;</li>
<li>March 20, 2013 - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software)" rel="nofollow">Docker is born</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_Linux" rel="nofollow">CoreOS</a> sees its first public release in October of 2013.</li>
<li>Red Hat <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20131128171128/http://developerblog.redhat.com/2013/11/26/rhel6-5-ga/" rel="nofollow">official inclusion</a> of Docker with RHEL 6.5</li>
<li><a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/04/announcing-project-atomic/" rel="nofollow">April 2014 - Project Atomic</a></li>
<li>The actual distro building <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/05/the-difference-between-project-atomic-and-atomic-hosts/" rel="nofollow">was left</a> to the actual distro projects.</li>
<li><a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/04/build-your-own-atomic-host-on-fedora-20/" rel="nofollow">Instructions to build on top of Fedora 20</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html" rel="nofollow">CENTOS and RHEL partner</a> which <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/06/centos-atomic-host-sig-propposed/" rel="nofollow">began the journey to Atomic Host</a>.</li>
<li>A Fedora Atomic Host installable ISO <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/07/new-fedora-atomic-installable-iso/" rel="nofollow">becomes available</a> based on Rawhide.</li>
<li>August 2014 - CentOS Atomic Host alpha builds <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/08/centos-7-alpha-builds-for-atomic/" rel="nofollow">were available</a>.</li>
<li>December 2014 - Fedora 21 <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/12/fedora-21-goes-gold-with-atomic-images/" rel="nofollow">releases with Atomic Host images</a>.</li>
<li>March 2015 - Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150312173742/http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/03/05/announcement-rhel-atomic-host-ga/" rel="nofollow">released</a>.</li>
<li>July 2015 - <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2016/07/hacking-and-extending-atomic-host/" rel="nofollow">Package layering</a> was introduced.</li>
<li>Atomic Hosts came and went, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Two_Week_Atomic" rel="nofollow">including</a> bi-weekly <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2015/12/fedora-atomic-host-two-week-release-ready/" rel="nofollow">releases</a></li>
<li>2016 - XDG-App was <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/flatpak/2016-May/000204.html" rel="nofollow">renamed Flatpak</a>.</li>
<li>2018 - CoreOS Docker platform was <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-acquire-coreos-expanding-its-kubernetes-and-containers-leadership" rel="nofollow">acquired by Red Hat</a> in January. It became, <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2018/05/welcome-redhat-coreos/" rel="nofollow">Red Hat CoreOS</a>.</li>
<li>The Fedora flavor would live on as... <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180505090226/https://www.teamsilverblue.org/" rel="nofollow">Team Silverblue</a>.</li>
<li>The domain name and handles around the web <a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/_attachments/team-silverblue-origins.pdf" rel="nofollow">were available</a></li>
<li>It was almost called <a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/faq/" rel="nofollow">Silverleaf</a></li>
<li>October 30, 2018 - Fedora 29 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190407211446/https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/" rel="nofollow">was released</a> with a Silverblue variant. Matthew Miller on Fedora Magazine <a href="https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-29/" rel="nofollow">noted</a>.</li>
<li>The Fedora Council <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20191121020222/https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedoras-strategic-direction-an-update-from-the-council/796" rel="nofollow">made the decision</a> to tighten things up regarding naming.</li>
<li>2019 - Fedora 30 and the Silverblue variant <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201201201318/https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/" rel="nofollow">were released</a></li>
<li>2021 - Silverblue 35 in November, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Kinoite</a> appears.</li>
<li>2023 - Silverblue 38 in April, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Sericea</a> appears.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Further Reading</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/technical-information/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Silverblue Technical information</a></li>
<li><a href="https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/" rel="nofollow">rpm-ostree documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://documentation.vanillaos.org/" rel="nofollow">Vanilla OS documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/Vanilla-OS/ABRoot" rel="nofollow">ABRoot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://docs.blendos.co/docs/intro" rel="nofollow">blendOS documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ostreedev.github.io/ostree/" rel="nofollow">libostree</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/sodaliterocks/" rel="nofollow">Sodalite</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bazzite.gg/" rel="nofollow">Bazzite</a></li>
<li><a href="https://universal-blue.org/" rel="nofollow">Universal Blue</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>Some topics and some feedback. Our next distro isn&#39;t a distro, what? We plan to explore and provide the history of <a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/" rel="nofollow">CDE or Common Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The prying eyes wanna know 👀</li>
<li>The History of Silverblue</li>
<li>What&#39;s immutable anyway?</li>
<li>and how we layered a few packages</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:44 Telemetry Trouble<br>
27:45 Silverblue 2012<br>
30:49 Silverblue 2013-2014<br>
33:55 Silverblue 2015-2017<br>
34:50 Silverblue 2018<br>
38:25 Silverblue 2019-2021<br>
39:56 Silverblue 2022-2023<br>
41:47 An Immutability Primer?<br>
1:01:39 How&#39;d Silverblue Go?<br>
1:28:42 Next Time: Topics &amp; CDE<br>
1:33:04 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU" rel="nofollow"><strong>The video version!</strong></a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/fedora_privacy_telemetry/" rel="nofollow">Fedora considers adding telemetry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry" rel="nofollow">Fedora Wiki on the proposal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2023/07/05/endless-oss-privacy-preserving-metrics-system/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS&#39;s optional telemetry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320/774" rel="nofollow">Discussion thread</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of Fedora Silverblue</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/OSTree/NixOSComparison" rel="nofollow">Multiple Bootable Roots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/511877/#walters" rel="nofollow">From GUADEC 2012 - OSTree</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeContinuous" rel="nofollow">Gnome Continuous</a></li>
<li>Walters <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0ZEHPXJ9Q" rel="nofollow">described</a> OSTree as &quot;a magic formula.&quot;</li>
<li>March 20, 2013 - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software)" rel="nofollow">Docker is born</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_Linux" rel="nofollow">CoreOS</a> sees its first public release in October of 2013.</li>
<li>Red Hat <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20131128171128/http://developerblog.redhat.com/2013/11/26/rhel6-5-ga/" rel="nofollow">official inclusion</a> of Docker with RHEL 6.5</li>
<li><a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/04/announcing-project-atomic/" rel="nofollow">April 2014 - Project Atomic</a></li>
<li>The actual distro building <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/05/the-difference-between-project-atomic-and-atomic-hosts/" rel="nofollow">was left</a> to the actual distro projects.</li>
<li><a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/04/build-your-own-atomic-host-on-fedora-20/" rel="nofollow">Instructions to build on top of Fedora 20</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html" rel="nofollow">CENTOS and RHEL partner</a> which <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/06/centos-atomic-host-sig-propposed/" rel="nofollow">began the journey to Atomic Host</a>.</li>
<li>A Fedora Atomic Host installable ISO <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/07/new-fedora-atomic-installable-iso/" rel="nofollow">becomes available</a> based on Rawhide.</li>
<li>August 2014 - CentOS Atomic Host alpha builds <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/08/centos-7-alpha-builds-for-atomic/" rel="nofollow">were available</a>.</li>
<li>December 2014 - Fedora 21 <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/12/fedora-21-goes-gold-with-atomic-images/" rel="nofollow">releases with Atomic Host images</a>.</li>
<li>March 2015 - Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150312173742/http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/03/05/announcement-rhel-atomic-host-ga/" rel="nofollow">released</a>.</li>
<li>July 2015 - <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2016/07/hacking-and-extending-atomic-host/" rel="nofollow">Package layering</a> was introduced.</li>
<li>Atomic Hosts came and went, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Two_Week_Atomic" rel="nofollow">including</a> bi-weekly <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2015/12/fedora-atomic-host-two-week-release-ready/" rel="nofollow">releases</a></li>
<li>2016 - XDG-App was <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/flatpak/2016-May/000204.html" rel="nofollow">renamed Flatpak</a>.</li>
<li>2018 - CoreOS Docker platform was <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-acquire-coreos-expanding-its-kubernetes-and-containers-leadership" rel="nofollow">acquired by Red Hat</a> in January. It became, <a href="https://projectatomic.io/blog/2018/05/welcome-redhat-coreos/" rel="nofollow">Red Hat CoreOS</a>.</li>
<li>The Fedora flavor would live on as... <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180505090226/https://www.teamsilverblue.org/" rel="nofollow">Team Silverblue</a>.</li>
<li>The domain name and handles around the web <a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/_attachments/team-silverblue-origins.pdf" rel="nofollow">were available</a></li>
<li>It was almost called <a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/faq/" rel="nofollow">Silverleaf</a></li>
<li>October 30, 2018 - Fedora 29 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190407211446/https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/" rel="nofollow">was released</a> with a Silverblue variant. Matthew Miller on Fedora Magazine <a href="https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-29/" rel="nofollow">noted</a>.</li>
<li>The Fedora Council <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20191121020222/https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedoras-strategic-direction-an-update-from-the-council/796" rel="nofollow">made the decision</a> to tighten things up regarding naming.</li>
<li>2019 - Fedora 30 and the Silverblue variant <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201201201318/https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/" rel="nofollow">were released</a></li>
<li>2021 - Silverblue 35 in November, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Kinoite</a> appears.</li>
<li>2023 - Silverblue 38 in April, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Sericea</a> appears.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Further Reading</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/technical-information/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Silverblue Technical information</a></li>
<li><a href="https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/" rel="nofollow">rpm-ostree documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://documentation.vanillaos.org/" rel="nofollow">Vanilla OS documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/Vanilla-OS/ABRoot" rel="nofollow">ABRoot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://docs.blendos.co/docs/intro" rel="nofollow">blendOS documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ostreedev.github.io/ostree/" rel="nofollow">libostree</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/sodaliterocks/" rel="nofollow">Sodalite</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bazzite.gg/" rel="nofollow">Bazzite</a></li>
<li><a href="https://universal-blue.org/" rel="nofollow">Universal Blue</a></li>
</ul>

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<p><strong>Some topics and some feedback. Our next distro isn&#39;t a distro, what? We plan to explore and provide the history of <a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/" rel="nofollow">CDE or Common Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

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  <title>Episode 4:03: This is the WEI</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky. In this episode we discuss Web Environment Integrity (WEI), cover some feedback, banter about immutable operating systems, focus on some hardware and check in on our Gentoo journey.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* Immutability is confusing
* Going the wrong WEI (or W-E-I)
* Reverb Focus
* Hardware Focus
* And Gentoo Focus
0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Immutability Is Confusing
21:25 Going the Wrong WEI
40:55 Reverb Focus
45:56 Community Focus
51:09 Gentoo Focus
1:29:25 Next Time
1:31:02 Stinger
The video version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q89OFjgdk
Banter
Fedora Silverblue Technical information (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/technical-information/)
rpm-ostree documentation (https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/)
Vanilla OS documentation (https://documentation.vanillaos.org/)
ABRoot (https://github.com/Vanilla-OS/ABRoot)
blendOS documentation (https://docs.blendos.co/docs/intro)
Announcements
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Web Environment Integrity
2015 - AMP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages)
2019 - Google proposed Web Bundles (https://developer.chrome.com/docs/web-platform/web-bundles/)
2021 - Google weakened the power of extensions (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening)
May 2022 - First party sets were introduced through the W3C by Google but in June 2022, the W3C decided to drop the idea (https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacycg/2022Jun/0003.html).
April 24, 2023 - The original Google WEI proposal post (https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/blob/main/explainer.md)
July 24, 2023 - Mozilla's rebuke (https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#issuecomment-1648820747)
July 25, 2023 - Vivaldi's rebuke (https://vivaldi.com/blog/googles-new-dangerous-web-environment-integrity-spec/)
August 1, 2023 - Brave's rebuke (https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/9-web-environment-integrity/)
August 8, 2023 - The EFF rebuke (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/your-computer-should-say-what-you-tell-it-say-1)
More Announcements
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Reverb Focus, all about the feedback.
Lily
https://blanc.pages.dev/debian-codenames-toy-story-characters/
Hackerdefo
I have created a few useful (hopefully) gists related to Debian
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https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/1599cb664cc3c2f125a45248d9c6c71d
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Gentoo Focus
use https://packages.gentoo.org
read the news - eselect news read new
pay attention to profile selection (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage))
Next Time
The history of the Fedora Immutable Desktops so Fedora Silverblue (https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/) or Fedora Kinoite (https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/) or Fedora Sericea (https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/).
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Johnny
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Immutability is confusing</li>
<li>Going the wrong WEI (or W-E-I)</li>
<li>Reverb Focus</li>
<li>Hardware Focus</li>
<li>And Gentoo Focus</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Immutability Is Confusing<br>
21:25 Going the Wrong WEI<br>
40:55 Reverb Focus<br>
45:56 Community Focus<br>
51:09 Gentoo Focus<br>
1:29:25 Next Time<br>
1:31:02 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk" rel="nofollow"><strong>The video version</strong></a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/technical-information/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Silverblue Technical information</a></li>
<li><a href="https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/" rel="nofollow">rpm-ostree documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://documentation.vanillaos.org/" rel="nofollow">Vanilla OS documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/Vanilla-OS/ABRoot" rel="nofollow">ABRoot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://docs.blendos.co/docs/intro" rel="nofollow">blendOS documentation</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

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<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patreons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Web Environment Integrity</h2>

<ul>
<li>2015 - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages" rel="nofollow">AMP</a></li>
<li>2019 - Google proposed <a href="https://developer.chrome.com/docs/web-platform/web-bundles/" rel="nofollow">Web Bundles</a></li>
<li>2021 - Google <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening" rel="nofollow">weakened the power of extensions</a></li>
<li>May 2022 - First party sets were introduced through the W3C by Google but in June 2022, the W3C decided to <a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacycg/2022Jun/0003.html" rel="nofollow">drop the idea</a>.</li>
<li>April 24, 2023 - The <a href="https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/blob/main/explainer.md" rel="nofollow">original Google WEI proposal post</a></li>
<li>July 24, 2023 - <a href="https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#issuecomment-1648820747" rel="nofollow">Mozilla&#39;s rebuke</a></li>
<li>July 25, 2023 - <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/googles-new-dangerous-web-environment-integrity-spec/" rel="nofollow">Vivaldi&#39;s rebuke</a></li>
<li>August 1, 2023 - <a href="https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/9-web-environment-integrity/" rel="nofollow">Brave&#39;s rebuke</a></li>
<li>August 8, 2023 - <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/your-computer-should-say-what-you-tell-it-say-1" rel="nofollow">The EFF rebuke</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

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</ul>

<h2>Reverb Focus, all about the feedback.</h2>

<h4>Lily</h4>

<p><a href="https://blanc.pages.dev/debian-codenames-toy-story-characters/" rel="nofollow">https://blanc.pages.dev/debian-codenames-toy-story-characters/</a></p>

<h4>Hackerdefo</h4>

<p>I have created a few useful (hopefully) gists related to Debian<br>
sources.list files and Debian download links. Here are links to those gists,</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/98701fbf746c8216e77a65002f7a0dab" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/98701fbf746c8216e77a65002f7a0dab</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/5e1f51fa93ff37871b9ff738b05ba30f" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/5e1f51fa93ff37871b9ff738b05ba30f</a></li>
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<li>My Blog -&gt; <a href="https://hakerdefo.github.io" rel="nofollow">https://hakerdefo.github.io</a></li>
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</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

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<h2>Community Focus - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HardwareHaven" rel="nofollow">Hardware Haven</a></h2>

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<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HardwareHaven" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discord.gg/25a6qVdSMh" rel="nofollow">Discord</a></li>
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<h2>Gentoo Focus</h2>

<ul>
<li>use <a href="https://packages.gentoo.org" rel="nofollow">https://packages.gentoo.org</a></li>
<li>read the news - <code>eselect news read new</code></li>
<li>pay attention to <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage)" rel="nofollow">profile selection</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>The history of the Fedora Immutable Desktops so <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Silverblue</a> or <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Kinoite</a> or <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Sericea</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

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<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

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<li>Tim</li>
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<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
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<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Immutability is confusing</li>
<li>Going the wrong WEI (or W-E-I)</li>
<li>Reverb Focus</li>
<li>Hardware Focus</li>
<li>And Gentoo Focus</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Immutability Is Confusing<br>
21:25 Going the Wrong WEI<br>
40:55 Reverb Focus<br>
45:56 Community Focus<br>
51:09 Gentoo Focus<br>
1:29:25 Next Time<br>
1:31:02 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk" rel="nofollow"><strong>The video version</strong></a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/technical-information/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Silverblue Technical information</a></li>
<li><a href="https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/" rel="nofollow">rpm-ostree documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://documentation.vanillaos.org/" rel="nofollow">Vanilla OS documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/Vanilla-OS/ABRoot" rel="nofollow">ABRoot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://docs.blendos.co/docs/intro" rel="nofollow">blendOS documentation</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patreons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Web Environment Integrity</h2>

<ul>
<li>2015 - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages" rel="nofollow">AMP</a></li>
<li>2019 - Google proposed <a href="https://developer.chrome.com/docs/web-platform/web-bundles/" rel="nofollow">Web Bundles</a></li>
<li>2021 - Google <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening" rel="nofollow">weakened the power of extensions</a></li>
<li>May 2022 - First party sets were introduced through the W3C by Google but in June 2022, the W3C decided to <a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacycg/2022Jun/0003.html" rel="nofollow">drop the idea</a>.</li>
<li>April 24, 2023 - The <a href="https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/blob/main/explainer.md" rel="nofollow">original Google WEI proposal post</a></li>
<li>July 24, 2023 - <a href="https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#issuecomment-1648820747" rel="nofollow">Mozilla&#39;s rebuke</a></li>
<li>July 25, 2023 - <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/googles-new-dangerous-web-environment-integrity-spec/" rel="nofollow">Vivaldi&#39;s rebuke</a></li>
<li>August 1, 2023 - <a href="https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/9-web-environment-integrity/" rel="nofollow">Brave&#39;s rebuke</a></li>
<li>August 8, 2023 - <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/your-computer-should-say-what-you-tell-it-say-1" rel="nofollow">The EFF rebuke</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Reverb Focus, all about the feedback.</h2>

<h4>Lily</h4>

<p><a href="https://blanc.pages.dev/debian-codenames-toy-story-characters/" rel="nofollow">https://blanc.pages.dev/debian-codenames-toy-story-characters/</a></p>

<h4>Hackerdefo</h4>

<p>I have created a few useful (hopefully) gists related to Debian<br>
sources.list files and Debian download links. Here are links to those gists,</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/98701fbf746c8216e77a65002f7a0dab" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/98701fbf746c8216e77a65002f7a0dab</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/5e1f51fa93ff37871b9ff738b05ba30f" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/5e1f51fa93ff37871b9ff738b05ba30f</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/1599cb664cc3c2f125a45248d9c6c71d" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/1599cb664cc3c2f125a45248d9c6c71d</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/124a37ca927018f8b52a72e316d160fa" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/124a37ca927018f8b52a72e316d160fa</a></li>
<li>My Blog -&gt; <a href="https://hakerdefo.github.io" rel="nofollow">https://hakerdefo.github.io</a></li>
<li>My Projects -&gt; <a href="https://github.com/hakerdefo" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/hakerdefo</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

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<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Community Focus - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HardwareHaven" rel="nofollow">Hardware Haven</a></h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HardwareHaven" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discord.gg/25a6qVdSMh" rel="nofollow">Discord</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Gentoo Focus</h2>

<ul>
<li>use <a href="https://packages.gentoo.org" rel="nofollow">https://packages.gentoo.org</a></li>
<li>read the news - <code>eselect news read new</code></li>
<li>pay attention to <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage)" rel="nofollow">profile selection</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>The history of the Fedora Immutable Desktops so <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Silverblue</a> or <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Kinoite</a> or <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Sericea</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 3:18: The Neverending Story</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2023 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky.
In this episode we cover the history of Endless OS and are also joined by a guest. We banter about scrolling in Chromium based browsers and virtualization environments.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
1. The Never Ending History
2. A Cassidy James Experience
3. And we go berry picking
Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:30 Vivaldi 5.7... Again
3:20 Itty Bitty Server Things
18:44 EndlessOS History, 2010-2012
21:51 2013-2015
25:36 2016-2018
29:25 2019-2021
32:57 2022-2023
36:08 (A Short) How'd It Go?
42:33 A Cassidy James Experience
1:15:31 Next Time: Topics and Feedback
1:19:53 Stinger
See this episode on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs
Banter
Vivaldi 5.7 (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-7-on-desktop/) fixes Leo's scrolling woes. (https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27)
Dan installs Proxmox VE (https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve) on a couple of HP mini pcs. (https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04816235)
Announcements
📺️ Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace).
📽️ You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops.
😍 If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace
EndlessOS the History
Endless Mobile Inc.'s was founded (https://web.archive.org/web/20180519033528/https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=241000702).
Computers started shipping in (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/posts/1276655) late June 2015.
The Endless Mini (https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/).
August 2016 Endless 3.0 was released as was the very First Linux distro to adopt Flatpak (https://flatpak.org/about) for apps and have it configured for use out of the box.
October 2016 Netflix and Flash were broken (https://community.endlessos.com/t/attention-new-users-flash-and-netflix-temporarily-broken/327).
Jan 4, 2017 Endless Mission One and Mini (https://venturebeat.com/business/endless-expands-into-the-u-s-with-launch-of-129-mission-mini-and-249-mission-one-computers/) released (https://www.cnet.com/pictures/mission-mini/null/).
Mission Mini Review (https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/)
Mission One Review (https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mission-one-review/)
March 2017 3.1.3 Released (https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-version-3-1-3/1835) and now ISOs are now available (https://community.endlessos.com/t/iso-images-available-for-endless-os/1840).
November 1 2018, 3.5 Released, but was then quickly withdrawn (https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-3-5-1/8252). 3.5.1 was quickly delivered on November 16th addressing the issue.
April 1, 2020 Endless drops its for-profit status and becomes a not-for-profit (https://www.endlessos.org/post/launching-endless-os-foundation).
November 2020 Hack and friends go fully open source (https://www.hack-computer.com/post/update-hack-is-now-fully-open-source)!
June 2021 The Endless Laptop (https://www.endlessos.org/endless-laptop).
January 2023 5.0 Released (https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/5).
4.0.14 (https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/4-0-14) delivers the ability to upgrade to 5.0 which was previously not possible.
March 7, 2023 Endless announces backing for Flathub (https://discourse.flathub.org/t/flathub-in-2023/3808)
Huge thanks to Cassidy James Blaede for taking the time to join us! Cassidy's web page is here (https://cassidyjames.com)
Endless OS links
Main web site (https://endlessos.com/home/)
The Forum (https://community.endlessos.com/)
The Wiki (https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os)
Endless OS Foundation (https://www.endlessos.org/)
The Early History (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/description)
The Release History (https://community.endlessos.com/t/what-about-a-release-history/5277/3)
The Early PC's (https://web.archive.org/web/20170223110116/https://endlessos.com/our-computers/)
All Old Github Tagged versions ~2.0.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20201117023525/https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop/tags?after=Release_2.0.1-rc1_debian)
More Announcements
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show
Housekeeping
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
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* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
Next Time
We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is Raspberry Pi OS (https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/)
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
John
Dave
Johnny
Co-Producer
Tim
Super User
Advait
Bjørnar
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Nicholas
Paul
sleepyeyesvince 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>The Never Ending History</li>
<li>A Cassidy James Experience</li>
<li>And we go berry picking</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 Vivaldi 5.7... Again<br>
3:20 Itty Bitty Server Things<br>
18:44 EndlessOS History, 2010-2012<br>
21:51 2013-2015<br>
25:36 2016-2018<br>
29:25 2019-2021<br>
32:57 2022-2023<br>
36:08 (A Short) How&#39;d It Go?<br>
42:33 A Cassidy James Experience<br>
1:15:31 Next Time: Topics and Feedback<br>
1:19:53 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>See</strong> this episode on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-7-on-desktop/" rel="nofollow">Vivaldi 5.7</a> fixes Leo&#39;s scrolling <a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27" rel="nofollow">woes.</a></li>
<li>Dan installs <a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" rel="nofollow">Proxmox VE</a> on a couple of <a href="https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04816235" rel="nofollow">HP mini pcs.</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>📺️ Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a>.</li>
<li>📽️ You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>😍 If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>EndlessOS the History</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180519033528/https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=241000702" rel="nofollow">Endless Mobile Inc.&#39;s was founded</a>.</li>
<li>Computers started <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/posts/1276655" rel="nofollow">shipping in</a> late June 2015.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" rel="nofollow">The Endless Mini</a>.</li>
<li>August 2016 Endless 3.0 was released as was the very First Linux distro to adopt <a href="https://flatpak.org/about" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a> for apps and have it configured for use out of the box.</li>
<li>October 2016 Netflix and Flash were <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/attention-new-users-flash-and-netflix-temporarily-broken/327" rel="nofollow">broken</a>.</li>
<li>Jan 4, 2017 Endless <a href="https://venturebeat.com/business/endless-expands-into-the-u-s-with-launch-of-129-mission-mini-and-249-mission-one-computers/" rel="nofollow">Mission One and Mini</a> <a href="https://www.cnet.com/pictures/mission-mini/null/" rel="nofollow">released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" rel="nofollow">Mission Mini Review</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mission-one-review/" rel="nofollow">Mission One Review</a></li>
<li>March 2017 <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-version-3-1-3/1835" rel="nofollow">3.1.3 Released</a> and now <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/iso-images-available-for-endless-os/1840" rel="nofollow">ISOs are now available</a>.</li>
<li>November 1 2018, 3.5 Released, but was <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-3-5-1/8252" rel="nofollow">then quickly withdrawn</a>. 3.5.1 was quickly delivered on November 16th addressing the issue.</li>
<li>April 1, 2020 Endless drops its <a href="https://www.endlessos.org/post/launching-endless-os-foundation" rel="nofollow">for-profit status and becomes a not-for-profit</a>.</li>
<li>November 2020 Hack and friends <a href="https://www.hack-computer.com/post/update-hack-is-now-fully-open-source" rel="nofollow">go fully open source</a>!</li>
<li>June 2021 <a href="https://www.endlessos.org/endless-laptop" rel="nofollow">The Endless Laptop</a>.</li>
<li>January 2023 <a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/5" rel="nofollow">5.0 Released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/4-0-14" rel="nofollow">4.0.14</a> delivers the ability to upgrade to 5.0 which was previously not possible.</li>
<li>March 7, 2023 <a href="https://discourse.flathub.org/t/flathub-in-2023/3808" rel="nofollow">Endless announces backing for Flathub</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Huge thanks to Cassidy James Blaede for taking the time to join us! Cassidy&#39;s web page is <a href="https://cassidyjames.com" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong></p>

<h3>Endless OS links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://endlessos.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Main web site</a></li>
<li><a href="https://community.endlessos.com/" rel="nofollow">The Forum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os" rel="nofollow">The Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.endlessos.org/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/description" rel="nofollow">The Early History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/what-about-a-release-history/5277/3" rel="nofollow">The Release History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170223110116/https://endlessos.com/our-computers/" rel="nofollow">The Early PC&#39;s</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201117023525/https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop/tags?after=Release_2.0.1-rc1_debian" rel="nofollow">All Old Github Tagged versions ~2.0.0</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is <a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/" rel="nofollow">Raspberry Pi OS</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>The Never Ending History</li>
<li>A Cassidy James Experience</li>
<li>And we go berry picking</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 Vivaldi 5.7... Again<br>
3:20 Itty Bitty Server Things<br>
18:44 EndlessOS History, 2010-2012<br>
21:51 2013-2015<br>
25:36 2016-2018<br>
29:25 2019-2021<br>
32:57 2022-2023<br>
36:08 (A Short) How&#39;d It Go?<br>
42:33 A Cassidy James Experience<br>
1:15:31 Next Time: Topics and Feedback<br>
1:19:53 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>See</strong> this episode on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-7-on-desktop/" rel="nofollow">Vivaldi 5.7</a> fixes Leo&#39;s scrolling <a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27" rel="nofollow">woes.</a></li>
<li>Dan installs <a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" rel="nofollow">Proxmox VE</a> on a couple of <a href="https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04816235" rel="nofollow">HP mini pcs.</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>📺️ Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a>.</li>
<li>📽️ You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>😍 If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>EndlessOS the History</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180519033528/https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=241000702" rel="nofollow">Endless Mobile Inc.&#39;s was founded</a>.</li>
<li>Computers started <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/posts/1276655" rel="nofollow">shipping in</a> late June 2015.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" rel="nofollow">The Endless Mini</a>.</li>
<li>August 2016 Endless 3.0 was released as was the very First Linux distro to adopt <a href="https://flatpak.org/about" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a> for apps and have it configured for use out of the box.</li>
<li>October 2016 Netflix and Flash were <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/attention-new-users-flash-and-netflix-temporarily-broken/327" rel="nofollow">broken</a>.</li>
<li>Jan 4, 2017 Endless <a href="https://venturebeat.com/business/endless-expands-into-the-u-s-with-launch-of-129-mission-mini-and-249-mission-one-computers/" rel="nofollow">Mission One and Mini</a> <a href="https://www.cnet.com/pictures/mission-mini/null/" rel="nofollow">released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" rel="nofollow">Mission Mini Review</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mission-one-review/" rel="nofollow">Mission One Review</a></li>
<li>March 2017 <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-version-3-1-3/1835" rel="nofollow">3.1.3 Released</a> and now <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/iso-images-available-for-endless-os/1840" rel="nofollow">ISOs are now available</a>.</li>
<li>November 1 2018, 3.5 Released, but was <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-3-5-1/8252" rel="nofollow">then quickly withdrawn</a>. 3.5.1 was quickly delivered on November 16th addressing the issue.</li>
<li>April 1, 2020 Endless drops its <a href="https://www.endlessos.org/post/launching-endless-os-foundation" rel="nofollow">for-profit status and becomes a not-for-profit</a>.</li>
<li>November 2020 Hack and friends <a href="https://www.hack-computer.com/post/update-hack-is-now-fully-open-source" rel="nofollow">go fully open source</a>!</li>
<li>June 2021 <a href="https://www.endlessos.org/endless-laptop" rel="nofollow">The Endless Laptop</a>.</li>
<li>January 2023 <a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/5" rel="nofollow">5.0 Released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/4-0-14" rel="nofollow">4.0.14</a> delivers the ability to upgrade to 5.0 which was previously not possible.</li>
<li>March 7, 2023 <a href="https://discourse.flathub.org/t/flathub-in-2023/3808" rel="nofollow">Endless announces backing for Flathub</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Huge thanks to Cassidy James Blaede for taking the time to join us! Cassidy&#39;s web page is <a href="https://cassidyjames.com" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong></p>

<h3>Endless OS links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://endlessos.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Main web site</a></li>
<li><a href="https://community.endlessos.com/" rel="nofollow">The Forum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os" rel="nofollow">The Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.endlessos.org/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/description" rel="nofollow">The Early History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/what-about-a-release-history/5277/3" rel="nofollow">The Release History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170223110116/https://endlessos.com/our-computers/" rel="nofollow">The Early PC&#39;s</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201117023525/https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop/tags?after=Release_2.0.1-rc1_debian" rel="nofollow">All Old Github Tagged versions ~2.0.0</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is <a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/" rel="nofollow">Raspberry Pi OS</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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