• The Thunder rolls
• We flatten out the History
• And Package Up Our Experience

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!
23:21 The History of Flatpak

• 24:32 From Glick to Bundles
• 29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app
• 30:54 From Flatpak to the Future! 37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution? 1:02:46 Next Time 1:05:14 Stinger

The Video Version
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Thundermail

• The Thundermail announcement

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The history of flatpak packages

• Autopackage
• Listaller
• AppStream
• The roots
• Klik
• Rethinking the Linux distribution
• Flatpak 4 years in
• Goodbye xdg-app, hello Flatpak
• Initial Flatpak press release
• KDE's Discover found its support of Flatpak
• Firefox begins Flatpak builds
• OBS begins Flatpak builds too
• Thunderbird gets official support

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Extra Flatpak Resources

• https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/
• https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/
• https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920
• https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/
• https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/
• https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/
• https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler

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• Syncing the Notes
• The History of Snaps
• And How Much We Absolutely Adore Them

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Seeking Syncthing
16:42 The History of Snaps
33:52 How'd 9 Years of Snaps Go?
1:01:54 Next Time
1:04:49 Stinger

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It is all about the notes

• Leo goes back to basics and uses SyncThing to move his markdown files around that he edits using a standard text editor.

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The history of snap packages

• Ubuntu's convergence promise.
• Click apps
• Snappy Ubuntu
• Click apps and Snappy apps share update technology.
• Snappy Ubuntu Core was available
• Snapcraft was released as version 2.0.
• Snaps were now available to everyone.
• Mozilla chimed in with their support.
• Snap expanded its compatibility to the likes of Arch and Fedora.
• xdg-app rebrands as Flatpak as a Snap competitor.
• Unity 8 and Snaps were expected for 18.04
• The backporting of Snaps to 14.04 was a success.
• Fedora saw that promised Snap support land.
• Mark Shuttleworth made a game changing announcement.
• An effort to slim down the size of Gnome apps succeeded.
• The first Snap-installed-by-default shipped with Ubuntu MATE 17.10.
• The drumbeat of Snaps-installed-by-default got louder.
• Mozilla authors their own Snap package.
• Snap devs finally started their efforts to slim down the startup times.
• Canonical's announcement that Chromium would switch to a Snap.
• Linux Mint forges their own path. Additionally, they blocked the snapd backend.
• The dev team speeds startup times further.
• Snaps killed their 32-bit support.
• Mozilla Firefox would now also be snap-only.
• The introduction of modularity.
• More LZO compression
• Mozilla Firefox improves
• Ubuntu Flavors no longer seed the Flatpak backend
• More rumblings about the all snap Ubuntu.
• Those rumblings were squashed.
• Snap compatibility get stronger
• KDE Plasma desktop sees Snap support.
• more drivers are Snapped.
• Some exploits and maybe a few flaws.

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Extra Snap Resources

• Click Apps
• Snappy Ubuntu!
• Snappy security
• It's a Snap
• Ubuntu 15.10 might have a Snappy Personal spin?
• Shortly after, Mozilla said Firefox will support the Snap package format
• Debs aren't going anywhere...
• xdg-portal and snap collab?
• Snap store
• Another Chromium push
• LZO compression time and
• Snapcraft changes
• April - Ubuntu Won't Support Flatpak
• Mozilla's snap pushes back 22.04.1
• Firefox Snap Performance part 1
• Firefox Snap Performance part 2
• 50% reduction in start time for Firefox Snap
• Flapak is out, Snap is still in
• An immutable Snap desktop? and also
• Malicious Snap Apps
• Thunderbird
• Another Exploit
• And another?
• Better Cross Distro Support

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• Do you think Larry uses Firefox?
• The Compiled History of Gentoo
• and How we emerged from the year long journey

0:00 Cold Open
2:44 Mozilla Watch!
24:59 Gentoo - The Early Years
30:30 Gentoo - 1.0 And Beyond
35:20 Gentoo - 2007 to 2014
39:56 Gentoo - 2015 to the Present
45:37 The ENTIRE Gentoo Journey
1:20:49 Next Season?
1:24:52 Stinger

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The History of Gentoo

• Stampede Linux
• When a system emerged, it was called Enoch
• Making a Distro part 2
• Sustainability of the project had made its way to the forefront.
• Gentoo website ~August 2001
• March 3 2002 public facing movement was easily spotted.
• March 31 2002, 1.0 was finally released!
• The huge influx of new users it encouraged caused bandwidth issues for Gentoo.
• August of 2003, 1.4 was released.
• Full installation could be completed in under an hour!
• 2004, marked a change from the dot releases.
• 2004.0 released February 28, 2004.
• Daniel Robbins, the creator and founder, resigns from Gentoo.
• Despite that work continued. 2004.1 was released shortly after that news, dot 2 in July and dot 3 in November.
• September 2005, the first Gentoo Council was elected.
• Daniel Robbins makes his glorious return to the project!
• This lasted about 8 days before he resigned again.
• Other developers joined Robbins.
• Stability questions around the stability of the Gentoo Project
• October 2009, a LiveDVD release.
• 11.0, released in 2011.
• In 2015 A new website was announced! After the air was cleared, an actual NEW website.
• In 2016, Gentoo Choice Edition. Then in July, Choice Edition Part Dos.
• word crimes
• In 2017, 17.0 in November and an experimental 17.1 in December.
• An issue on Github in 2018.
• 2019 saw the 17.1 profiles finally stabilize.
• In 2021, the addition of 20.0 profiles were released.
• Genchu
  • Wallpaper1 Wallpaper2 Wallpaper3 Wallpaper4
• Precompiled binaries for more packages were announced.
• March of 2024, profile version 23.0.
• Michał Górny notes in his blog a few days before recording here that Gentoo has a problem.

Some Gentoo Quicklinks

• Main Gentoo Website
• Gentoo Handbook
• Gentoo Wiki
• Gentoo Forums
• Gentoo Developers
• Gentoo Bugtracker
• Gentoo Packages

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• The AI Revolution is Coming
• The History of MATE
• We Read the Tea Leaves
• Then Look to Lighten the Load

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0:00 Cold Open
4:09 Embrace the AI Overlords
21:45 The History of MATE
42:22 How Is MATE?
1:05:16 Next Time
1:07:51 Stinger

Preshow - The Computer Shopper

• Dan is sitting on a gold mine with his collection of Computer Shoppers

🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop

• Deepin OS is working on adding AI in Another link

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The History of Mate

• The first MATE org blogpost
• The initial Arch Linux forum post
• Perberos described the fork as...
• Phoronix August 2011
• ingeek 2011
• Perberos attempted to grow the community on the Ubuntu forums and Linux Mint forums
• Perberos, Clement Lefebvre, Stefano Karapetsas, and Steve Zesch were the founders.
• The initial migration script
• Salix had been one of the very first distributions to headline MATE
• The GNOME team created GNOME Flashback
• MATE University
• GhostBSD features the Mate desktop
• By the end of the year and into 2014, MATE was officially available in Arch, Debian, Fedora, Linux Mint, openSUSE, Sabayon, Salix and Ubuntu.
• Stefano Karapestas stepped up to lead the team.
• Clem had his part-ownership of MATE removed. He had this to say
• The big scoop MATE 1.28 and1.28.1 were recently released!

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• We add to the KDE saga
• We search for the humans on the other end of the Internet
• We pour over the Feedback
• We focus on the Gentoo feedback

The Video Version
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Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:30 The KDE AMA
7:47 The Truth About KDE 4.0
19:46 AppImage Is Broken in Ubuntu
24:47 There Be Humans Out There
40:07 Reverb Focus!

• 41:33 Douglas (Old Mac, New Tricks)
• 49:29 Bruce (Well, Why Don't Ya?!)
• 55:12 Jayden (GNOME Syndrome) 1:04:15 The Care & Feeding of Gentoo (feat. Ryan) 1:15:51 Next Time! 1:20:32 Stinger

🔥Warm up🔥

• There was an KDE AMA on Lemmy and on Reddit
• Troy Unrau, a KDE dev, on the KDE History

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• Linus gets passionate sometimes

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Reverb Focus

Douglas Paul

• Douglas does his own 12 step distro hop program.
• Gnome, Fedora, with Extensions and Albert is the landing spot... at least for now.

Bruce Hankins on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11)

• Two categories of users, average users and power users.
• Average users don't really tinker.
• Power users like to tinker (this is where Leo and Dan fall as well as many of you) but there is a small amount of us.
• Installation of the system and applications is not intuitive.

Jayden on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11) AAAAAAND a Note Suggestion

• Gnome with gestures and multi-touch are great.
• A couple of note taking apps for Leo to chase - Xournal++ and Rnote

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Gentoo Focus

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🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to explore and provide the history of Mate Desktop Environment.

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• An NVMe for me
• The Shure Next To You
• Of course, the History of Debian
• Our Thoughts of it over the monthSSSS

0:00 Cold Open
1:04 A Few Good Deals
16:14 The History of Debian | The Beginning
18:00 The History of Debian | 1993 - 1994
22:23 The History of Debian | 1995 - 1998
26:15 The History of Debian | 1999 & Y2k
31:11 The History of Debian | 2001 - 2009
36:40 The History of Debian | 2010 - 2020
42:39 The History of Debian | 2021 - 2027
45:33 A Month of Debian 12 Thoughts
1:13:24 - Next Time | Fedora Silverblue & Topics
1:18:03 Stinger

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• Before Debian there was Softlanding Linux.
• August 16, 1993, Ian Murdock's announcement that started it all.
• January 1994, Ian releases the Debian Manifesto.
• April 1, 1994, Ian was struggling to keep up with it all and needed a break.
• March 1996, Ian steps down as Debian Project Leader. Leaving Bruce Perens to take up the job.
• The FSF pulls sponsorship but later the FSF "resumed cordial relations".
• June 17, 1996, Debian 1.1 is released with the first ever codename based on Toy Story characters. It was named Buzz, after Buzz Lightyear. A list of all the Debian releases.
• February 1, 1997, A board of directors had been elected for Software in the Public Interest.
• February 20, 1997, Debian shows its intent to ratify a constitution.
• July 1, 1997, Debian is really launched into space this time to monitor plant growth in microgravity, sending video and other data back home.
• December 2, 1998, Debian ratifies a Constitution.
• At the beginning of 1999, Wichert Akkerman was elected Debian Project Leader and started with giving Debian a permanent identity.
• Logo on debian.org as of April 14, 1997
• January 24, 1999, the logo license for Captain Blue-Eye, expired again.
• February 4, 1999, a Logo contest announcement!
• May 3, 1999, the submissions were in. Captain Blue-Eye was thought to be too Linux-specific.
• June 8, 1999, The iconic swirl that we see today won the vote.
• July 6, 1999, dpkg version 2, which was hinted at by Ben Collins back in May, is now officially a thing and the specifications are out there boasting a more modular design.
• Debian weathered the Y2k storm with no major problems.
• In October 2001, LAN Comp Systems begin mastering Debian 3.0 on DVD ahead of the official release.
• Debian 3.0 was delayed because of broken boot floppies.
• 2002, the first net installation images were available.
• 2007, through a disagreement with Mozilla on backporting security fixes, would be replaced by the free-software version, Iceweasel.
• 2013, the trailing 0 on the major release is dropped. Minor releases will continue adding the point, as in .1, .2, etc.
• Also in 2013, multi-arch support is added.
• 2020, Jonathan Carter was elected Debian Project Leader and has been reaffirmed three more times, and is currently serving as Leader.
• June 10, 2023, Debian 12 is released, codenamed Bookworm.

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Debian Quick links

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• Blog
• User Forums
• Bug Tracking System
• Debian at Wikipedia
• Debian History page
• Debian releases
• The Debian Handbook - The Debian Project
• List of Debian Project Leaders

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Next Time

Some topics and some feedback. Our next distro is the Fedora Immutable Desktops so Fedora Silverblue or Fedora Kinoite or Fedora Sericea.

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1. Helping one helps the other
2. A little off the beaten path
3. The history of GeckoLinux
4. And our experience
5. What will we think of next?

The Video
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0:00 Cold Open
1:35 Framasoft is Everywhere
5:41 Side Quest, Endeavour
10:03 Side Quest, Vanilla
19:04 GeckoLinux History 2001-2005
21:04 2015
24:39 2016-2022
29:00 2022 - January 2023
34:49 Couple of Sam Things
45:14 How It Went
53:14 Side Quest, Catppuccin
55:00 Side Quest, Ghostwriter
1:00:00 Next Time
1:07:21 Stinger

Banter

• Framasoft is the association behind both FreshRSS and Peertube
• Dan's been on EndeavourOS Cassini
• Leo's been trying out VanillaOS started by Mirko Brombin
• Dan's new favorite theme - Catppuccin Macchiato

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Gecko Linux the History

• GeckoLinux
• openSUSE
• November 13, 2015, the first release of GeckoLinux 421.15.1113.6 was announced
• Explaining the version number
• In December 2015, alongside Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome and Budgie were added. In addition a BareBones edition. And a few days later Plasma, Mate, and LXQt get their first ISOs
• SUSE Studio Express
• Budgie put on ice for a while.
• Pantheon is added. AND the Budgie ROLLING and NEXT editions make a return.
• A vote for which default filesystem was held with btrfs winning. The same vote, but for the STATIC edition was held.
• Static will have a sunset in the future due to the change in LEAP
• Since that has happened yet GeckoLinux released after 15.4

Extra Information

• https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109419
• https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109458
• https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/
• https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/post-109567

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Next Time

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0:00 Cold Open
1:47 We're on TILvids
14:20 Johnny's Fundraising Drive!
22:19 Johnny's Distro Apocalypse
36:13 Mozilla Watch feat. Vivaldi
53:21 Feedback: furicle
53:52 Feedback: py
57:03 Feedback: georgh
1:02:18 Feedback: Anon
1:06:57 Feedback: Daniel
1:09:19 Community Focus: Techno Tim
1:13:16 App Focus: CrowdSec
1:22:24 Next Time: Gecko Linux
1:23:57 Stinger

The Video
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• What the heck is a TILvids?

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Feedback from Johnny

• Leo's pick for a project to support - Kdenlive
• Dan's pick for a project to support - FreshRSS
• Leo's pick if his top 3 distros went away - openSUSE Tumbleweed
• Dan's pick if his top 3 distros went away - Fedora

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Mozilla

• Adding accessibility
  • https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/
  • Cache the World!
• Reflecting on a decade of anti-tracking

Vivaldi

• New web panel is enabled for Mastodon on Vivaldi's own Mastodon instance. tl;dr you can change it for any other Mastodon instance too.

More Feedback

History show possibilities.

• furicle on Mastodon

Have you tried BunsenLabs?

• py on Mastodon
• Leo has had an interest since "The end."

Emacs thoughts

• georgh on the History of Emacs clip
• Leo went down the Internet Rabbit Hole and suggests this video

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Community Focus

• Techno Tim's website with all of his links

App Focus

CrowdSec

Next Time

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1. We're diskless
2. We take a LEAF out of the history book
3. We climb the Alpine mountain
4. Pick a very small editor
5. And we don our hoodies

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0:00 Cold Open
1:30 No Disks for You!
10:35 1997, LRP
11:43 2000, No More Money
13:09 2001, LRP Struggles
13:59 2003, LRP Put to Rest + LEAF and GNAP
14:58 2004, GNAP v0.5
15:04 2005, A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine
16:18 2006, Alpine 1.4 | 2007, Alpine 1.5 and 1.6
16:37 2008, Alpine 2.0 Added Busybox
16:54 2009, Alpine 1.8 and 1.9
17:13 2010, Alpine 1.10 and 2.0
18:05 2011, Alpine 2.2 and 2.3
18:28 2012, Alpine 2.4 and 2.5
18:51 2013, Alpine and the Container Renaissance
20:11 2014, Alpine 3.0 and musl libc
20:43 2015, Alpine 3.2, 3.3 and Some Restructuring
21:19 2016, Alpine 3.4, 3.5 and OpenSSL
21:55 2017, Alpine 3.6, 3.7 and PostmarketOS
22:39 2018, Alpine 3.8 and Raspberry Pi 3 Support
23:01 2019, Alpine 3.9, 3.10 and 3.11
24:08 2020, Alpine 3.12 and the Last LEAF
24:28 2021, Alpine 3.13, 3.14 and 3.15
25:10 2022, Alpine 3.16 and the End of the History
26:45 What is Alpine, Really?
41:34 Our Thoughts on Alpine
1:04:07 Next Time! More Text Ed and a New Distro
1:13:58 Stinger

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Disks! They're dead, Jim.

• Dan's 3TB Seagate - not noted for reliability but was reliable.
• Leo's 240GB Adata SU630

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Alpine Linux the History

• Back in 1997, Dave Cineage created the Linux Router Project, or LRP.
• The Linux Embedded Appliance Framework, or LEAF project was started
• Oxygen
• EigerStein
• The Linux Router Project was done
• The LEAF project was still there
• August of 2005, Natanael Copa, while working for a non-profit company on VPNs and firewalls, announced a new distribution on the linux.leaf.devel mailing list.
• Alpine originally stood for A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine.
• The earlier versions are a little cloudy, but we see Alpine 1.4 being developed in 2006, 1.5 in 2007, Alpine 1.6 released on April 30th of 2007 and the switch to development of 1.7 in the days after.
• Alpine 2.0, the then development branch, first commit "added busybox"
• Alpine 1.9 - OpenRC shipped and able to install on hard disks.
• A new website is launched
• Alpine Linux 2.0 is released
• The team announced the Alpine Linux Forum.
• Alpine 3.0 is released, and uClibc is dropped in favor of musl libc.
• Alpine 3.2 is released and included the MATE desktop.
• Alpine 3.3 is released with big renames of the editions that already existed.
• Alpine 3.4 is released with support for running within VM's, better DNS support and running on the Linux Kernel's Long Term Support release 4.4.
• Alpine 3.5 is released and this marks the first version to drop OpenSSL for LibreSSL.
• Alpine 3.6 is released with support for 64-bit PowerPC and IBM z Systems.
• Alpine 3.7 is released and now supports EFI and GRUB.
• Alpine 3.8 is released a bit behind schedule and marks the only release of the year.
• Alpine 3.9 is released improved GRUB support, initial support for the newish ARMv7 and the switch back to OpenSSL.
• Alpine 3.10 is released with lightdm for login and display management, which shows a renewed interest in running Alpine on the desktop.
• Alpine 3.11 is released with Raspberry Pi 4 support, initial Gnome and KDE Plasma support and the addition of Vulkan, DXVK and the Rust programming language.
• Alpine 3.12 is released with support for the D programming language.
• Alpine and others just do it better, so LEAF sees its last stable release at 7.0.1
• Alpine 3.13 is released and comes with official cloud images for services like AWS, cloud-init and better wifi support on the software side.
• Alpine 3.14 is released with fail2ban taking a back seat to sshguard because it... failed... to ban... and ClamAV is now community supported.
• Alpine 3.15 is released with kernel module compression using gzip, Gnome 41 and Plasma 5.23 land, and disk encryption is now supported right in the installer.
• Alpine 3.16 is released as the last release of this history with better NVMe support, adding SSH keys at boot, a new admin user creation process and a new setup-desktop script for desktop environment installation.

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• Alpine Wiki
• Alpine user handbook
• Alpine Linux on Twitter
• Alpine Downloads
• Alpine Linux Wikipedia page

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Next Time

We will discuss GNU Nano and the history. We also hope to have a couple of topics and some feedback.

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1. The origins of the shirts
2. Ubuntu's history
3. And some thoughts on 22.04

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Audio Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:30 The Origin of the Shirts
6:43 Lubuntu's in the Backporting Biz
9:45 Ubuntu's History
11:30 2004
17:01 2005
20:11 2006
24:01 2007
29:55 2008
36:39 2009
40:16 2010
47:52 2011
55:05 2012
1:02:35 2013
1:10:03 2014
1:15:00 2015
1:20:19 2016
1:25:26 2017
1:28:49 2018
1:31:17 2019
1:33:49 2020
1:35:55 2021
1:37:19 2022
1:39:43 A Couple Thoughts on Ubuntu
1:48:13 A New Distro, and a Thanks!
1:50:26 Stinger

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• Leo's Shirt
• Lubuntu Backports are coming!

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Ubuntu The Saga

Some fast links:

• Main Web Page
• Ubuntu Forums
• AskUbuntu
• Ubuntu Discourse
• Launchpad
• Official Flavours
• Wiki

There are way too many links to get them all!

We gathered a great deal from the official Ubuntu Blog

• The Inception
• Bug #1
• October 20, 2004 Warty Warthog 4.10 was the first release.
• Shipit came about the same time
• Hoary Hedgehog, 5.04, is released adding KDE and the Kubuntu flavor.
• Ubuntu Foundation is Created
• Warty's 18 months are up
• Dapper Drake, 6.06, is released. To date the only release that was late. Also, Xubuntu joined the family with the Xfce desktop.
• Scott James Remnant dubbed it the Late To Ship release
• Edgy Eft, 6.10 is released, now with more Upstart
• Launch Pad 1.0 Beta released
• Dell offers Ubuntu 7.04 on select devices in the US
• first release of Ubuntu Studio
• Gutsy Gibbon, 7.10 Desktop, is released. Mythubuntu and Gobuntu appear here.
• Launchpad is released
• System76 joined the fray
• Landscape, system management and monitoring tools for Ubuntu, launches
• Hardy Heron, 8.04 LTS, released for Desktop. Wubi is also released.
• Gobuntu has been made redundant
• Launchpad 2.0 released
• Canonical open sources Launchpad
• Karmic Koala, 9.10, is relased and so is Ubuntu One
• Lucid Lynx, 10.04, released and the first hints of Lubuntu, though not official yet.
• Unity announced
• Ubuntu and Canonical sites get a facelift. See it here
• Canonical announces Ubuntu Advantage
• Unity shows lots of improvement, but it's NOT A DOCK! (See it in action)
• Quitter talk - Blog post
• Shipit comes to an end
• Oneiric Ocelot, 11.10, is released. and Lubuntu becomes official.
• The HUD is introduced.
• Precise Pangolin, 12.04, is released. Includes the Heads Up Display
• Favorable reviews of Ubuntu as a whole, but also Unity
• The traditional installer/live CD is dead.
• Ubuntu comes to the phone
• Raring Ringtail, 13.04, is released.
  • focus on mobile ahead of the 14.04 release
  • Wubi has unresolved bugs
  • Ubuntu Kylin was born
• Ubuntu Edge Announced.
• Edge fails to meet its goal
• Ubuntu Kylin hits 1.3m downloads
• Ubuntu One's file services are being shut down
• Ubuntu Mate Remix is announced
• Mark Shuttleworth announces "Snappy Ubuntu"
• The BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu edition is available
• "Snappy Ubuntu Core" on Raspberry Pi 2
• Vivid Vervet 15.04, is released.
  • Ubuntu MATE, nearly called Mubuntu, gets its first "official flavor" release
• Snapcraft is announced and Snappy Apps are being called Snaps now
• ZFS is coming to Ubuntu
• Acknowledgement that Snaps don't quite look right a lot of times.
• Mark Shuttleworth announces that Ubuntu's Unity experiement has failed and Gnome, not Unity8 will be the default session in Ubuntu 18.04. This also marks the end of Ubuntu Phone.
• The next day, however, Marius Gripsgard of UBPorts stepped up to take the reins.
• Zesty Zappus, 17.04, is released. and with it Ubuntu Budgie becomes an official flavor.
• Ubuntu 16.04 shows up in the Windows Store, for the Windows Subsystem for Linux.
• Canonical joins the Gnome Foundation Advisory Board ahead of the 18.04 release.
• Bionic Beaver, 18.04, is released. and Gnome is the default DE again.
• Bryan Quigley, looks to drop 32-bit hardware support
• Cosmic Cuttlefish, 18.10, is released.
  • 32-bit support is now in consideration to be removed, so upgrades from 18.04 are forbidden on 32-bit installs.
  • Lubuntu Switches to LXQt from LXDE
• Mir 1.0 is released
• Disco Dingo, 19.04, is released. No more 32bit isos, long live 32bit.
• Ubuntu for WSL2
• i386 architecture, or rather 32-bit support, will be dropped
• i386 architecture will not be dropped
• Eoan Ermine 19.10, is released.
  • Experimental ZFS support on installation is available
  • Chromium is snap-only
• Rocco Interviews Mark Shuttleworth on Linux Spotlight
• Ubuntu in Pop Culture
• Focal Fossa, 20.04, is released.
  • Hardware enablement is on by default on the desktop.
  • The Snap Store tags in for Ubuntu Software
• Groovy Gorilla 20.10, is released.
  • Active Directory support gets added to the installer
• Snaps get faster
• Another lurch forward for snap theming.
• The Ubuntu installer is being rewritten in Flutter.
• Impish Indri, 21.10, is released.
  • Firefox follows Chromium and switches from a deb to a snap - Only for main Ubuntu, not the flavors... yet.
• Ubuntu gets their shiny new logo
• Jammy Jellyfish, 22.04, is released.
  • Better Active Directory integration
  • Flavors follow main Ubuntu and switch to the snap of Firefox.
• A big push to improve Firefox snap performance
• The push to improve Firefox continues

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Next Time

Our next show will be a topic show. Our next distro is Endeavour OS

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