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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* The Thunder rolls
* We flatten out the History
* And Package Up Our Experience
0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!
23:21 The History of Flatpak
- 24:32 From Glick to Bundles
- 29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app
- 30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger
The Video Version (https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U)
https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U
Thundermail
The Thundermail announcement (https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/)
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
* 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace)
* 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
The history of flatpak packages
Autopackage (https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/)
Listaller (https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/)
AppStream (https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/)
The roots (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/)
Klik (https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/)
Rethinking the Linux distribution (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/)
Flatpak 4 years in (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/)
Goodbye xdg-app, hello Flatpak (https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/)
Initial Flatpak press release (https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/)
KDE's Discover found its support of Flatpak (https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/)
Firefox begins Flatpak builds (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59)
OBS begins Flatpak builds too (https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/)
Thunderbird gets official support (https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/)
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Extra Flatpak Resources
https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/
https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/
https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920
https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/
https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/
https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/
https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler
🧹Housekeeping🧹
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
* 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon)
* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
* 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky)
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to cover more topics and feedback.
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. 
Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
Dave
John
Visaggio &amp;amp; Co
Co-Producer
--verbose
LqLarry
MarshMan
GrouchyM
Tim
Super User
A.J.
Advait
Amanita
Backshift6090
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
FrozenGorilla
Hausken
Jeff3ix
Jefferson
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Mick
Nicholas
Rotted Mood
sleepyeyesvince
The Saigoneer 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Thunder rolls</li>
<li>We flatten out the History</li>
<li>And Package Up Our Experience</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!<br>
23:21 The History of Flatpak</p>

<ul>
<li>24:32 From Glick to Bundles</li>
<li>29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app</li>
<li>30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow">The Video Version</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U</a></p>

<h2>Thundermail</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow">Thundermail announcement</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The history of flatpak packages</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow">Autopackage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow">Listaller</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow">AppStream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow">The roots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow">Klik</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow">Rethinking the Linux distribution</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow">Flatpak 4 years in</a></li>
<li>Goodbye xdg-app, hello <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow">Initial Flatpak press release</a></li>
<li>KDE&#39;s Discover found its <a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow">support of Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow">Firefox begins Flatpak builds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow">OBS begins Flatpak builds too</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow">Thunderbird gets official support</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Extra Flatpak Resources</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow">https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Thunder rolls</li>
<li>We flatten out the History</li>
<li>And Package Up Our Experience</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!<br>
23:21 The History of Flatpak</p>

<ul>
<li>24:32 From Glick to Bundles</li>
<li>29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app</li>
<li>30:54 From Flatpak to the Future!
37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution?
1:02:46 Next Time
1:05:14 Stinger</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow">The Video Version</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U</a></p>

<h2>Thundermail</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow">Thundermail announcement</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The history of flatpak packages</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow">Autopackage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow">Listaller</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow">AppStream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow">The roots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow">Klik</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow">Rethinking the Linux distribution</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow">Flatpak 4 years in</a></li>
<li>Goodbye xdg-app, hello <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow">Initial Flatpak press release</a></li>
<li>KDE&#39;s Discover found its <a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow">support of Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow">Firefox begins Flatpak builds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow">OBS begins Flatpak builds too</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow">Thunderbird gets official support</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Extra Flatpak Resources</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow">https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
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  <title>Episode 5:08: Make It Snappy</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we discuss Leo's note taking and the history of Snap packages.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* Syncing the Notes
* The History of Snaps
* And How Much We Absolutely Adore Them
0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Seeking Syncthing
16:42 The History of Snaps
33:52 How'd 9 Years of Snaps Go?
1:01:54 Next Time
1:04:49 Stinger
The Video Version
https://youtu.be/izDzKkuEyRw
It is all about the notes
Leo goes back to basics and uses SyncThing (https://syncthing.net/) to move his markdown files around that he edits using a standard text editor (https://code.visualstudio.com/).
📣Announcements📣
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The history of snap packages
Ubuntu's convergence promise (https://web.archive.org/web/20160531204608/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/820).
Click apps (https://click.readthedocs.io/en/latest/)
Snappy Ubuntu (https://youtu.be/BlcTDz9ogug)
Click apps and Snappy apps share update technology (https://web.archive.org/web/20141209165441/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1434).
Snappy Ubuntu Core was available (https://techcrunch.com/2015/04/21/ubuntu-15-04-launches-with-support-for-openstack-kilo-new-lxd-hypervisor-and-snappy-core/)
Snapcraft was released as version 2.0 (https://launchpad.net/snapcraft/+milestone/2.0).
Snaps were now available (https://ubuntu.com/blog/snaps-for-classic-ubuntu) to everyone.
Mozilla chimed in (https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/04/21/firefox-default-browser-for-linux-users-ubuntu-new-snap-format-coming-soon/) with their support.
Snap expanded its compatibility to the likes of Arch (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/snap-to-be-universal-linux-package-format) and Fedora (https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/IMI5TP2K6A6R7PSIOUBLOE62ENIZDXOA/).
xdg-app rebrands as Flatpak (https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/) as a Snap competitor.
Unity 8 and Snaps were expected for 18.04 (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-17.04-Unity-8-Snaps-Talk)
The backporting of Snaps to 14.04 (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/install-snap-apps-ubuntu-14-04) was a success.
Fedora (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/use-snap-fedora) saw that promised Snap support land.
Mark Shuttleworth made a game changing announcement (https://ubuntu.com/blog/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence).
An effort (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/gnome-platform-snap-development) to slim down the size of Gnome apps succeeded.
The first Snap-installed-by-default shipped (https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-17-10-will-ship-a-snap-by-default/15064) with Ubuntu MATE 17.10.
The drumbeat of Snaps-installed-by-default got louder (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2018-February/040126.html).
Mozilla authors their own Snap package (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/firefox-snap-package-available).
Snap devs finally started their efforts (https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/03/28/snap-startup-time-improvements) to slim down the startup times.
Canonical's announcement (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-chromium-browser-deb-to-snap-transition/11179) that Chromium would switch to a Snap.
Linux Mint forges their own path (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3766). Additionally, they blocked (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906) the snapd backend.
The dev team speeds startup times further (https://snapcraft.io/blog/snap-speed-improvements-with-new-compression-algorithm).
Snaps killed (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-6.0-Coming) their 32-bit support.
Mozilla Firefox would now also be snap-only (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default).
The introduction of modularity (https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-future-of-snapcraft).
More LZO compression (https://ubuntu.com//blog/kde-snaps-performance-revving-up)
Mozilla Firefox improves (https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2)
Ubuntu Flavors no longer seed the Flatpak backend (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default)
More rumblings (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop) about the all snap Ubuntu.
Those rumblings were squashed (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/ubuntu-core-desktop-delayed).
Snap compatibility get stronger (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/canonical-wants-better-snap-support-outside-ubuntu-based-on-latest-hires/)
KDE Plasma desktop sees Snap support (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.10-September).
more drivers are Snapped (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snaps-Intel-NPU-Driver).
Some exploits (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw) and maybe a few flaws (https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6940-2).
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Extra Snap Resources
Click Apps (https://askubuntu.com/questions/337969/what-are-click-packages)
Snappy Ubuntu! (https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212513/http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/)
Snappy security (https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212810/https://penguindroppings.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/snappy-security/)
It's a Snap (https://web.archive.org/web/20150207153458/http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/12/its-a-snap.html)
Ubuntu 15.10 might have a Snappy Personal spin? (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap)
Shortly after, Mozilla said Firefox will support the Snap package format (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/firefox-ubuntu-snap-package)
Debs aren't going anywhere... (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-16.04-Snap-Deb)
xdg-portal and snap collab? (https://www.phoronix.com/news/XDG-Desktop-Portal-Snapped)
Snap store (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snap-Store-Start)
Another Chromium push (https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition)
LZO compression time (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Canonical-Snap-LZO) and (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/squashfs-performance-effect-on-snap-startup-time/13920)
Snapcraft changes (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-New-Modular)
April - Ubuntu Won't Support Flatpak (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/ubuntu-wont-support-flatpak-anytime-soon)
Mozilla's snap pushes back 22.04.1 (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-22.04.1-LTS-Delayed)
Firefox Snap Performance part 1 (https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1)
Firefox Snap Performance part 2 (https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2)
50% reduction in start time for Firefox Snap (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Snap-50p-Reduction)
Flapak is out, Snap is still in (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default)
An immutable Snap desktop? (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/cups-snap-ubuntu-23-10#comment-6196766355) and (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop) also (https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-core-desktop)
Malicious Snap Apps (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snap-Store-Malicious-Apps)
Thunderbird (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/thunderbird-snap-in-ubuntu-24-04)
Another Exploit (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw)
And another? (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/ubuntu-will-manually-review-snap-store-after-crypto-wallet-scams/)
Better Cross Distro Support (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Better-Cross-Distro-Snaps)
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We plan to cover more topics and feedback.
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. 
Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
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Dave
John
Johnny
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Pjol
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Advait
Backshift6090
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
FrozenGorilla
Hausken
Jeff3ix
Jefferson
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Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
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Nicholas
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Syncing the Notes</li>
<li>The History of Snaps</li>
<li>And How Much We Absolutely Adore Them</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Seeking Syncthing<br>
16:42 The History of Snaps<br>
33:52 How&#39;d 9 Years of Snaps Go?<br>
1:01:54 Next Time<br>
1:04:49 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>The Video Version</strong><br>
<strong><a href="https://youtu.be/izDzKkuEyRw" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/izDzKkuEyRw</a></strong></p>

<h2>It is all about the notes</h2>

<ul>
<li>Leo goes back to basics and uses <a href="https://syncthing.net/" rel="nofollow">SyncThing</a> to move his markdown files around that he edits using a standard <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" rel="nofollow">text editor</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The history of snap packages</h2>

<ul>
<li>Ubuntu&#39;s <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160531204608/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/820" rel="nofollow">convergence promise</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://click.readthedocs.io/en/latest/" rel="nofollow">Click apps</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/BlcTDz9ogug" rel="nofollow">Snappy Ubuntu</a></li>
<li>Click apps and Snappy apps <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20141209165441/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1434" rel="nofollow">share update technology</a>.</li>
<li>Snappy Ubuntu Core was <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2015/04/21/ubuntu-15-04-launches-with-support-for-openstack-kilo-new-lxd-hypervisor-and-snappy-core/" rel="nofollow">available</a></li>
<li>Snapcraft was <a href="https://launchpad.net/snapcraft/+milestone/2.0" rel="nofollow">released as version 2.0</a>.</li>
<li>Snaps were <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/snaps-for-classic-ubuntu" rel="nofollow">now available</a> to everyone.</li>
<li>Mozilla <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/04/21/firefox-default-browser-for-linux-users-ubuntu-new-snap-format-coming-soon/" rel="nofollow">chimed in</a> with their support.</li>
<li>Snap expanded its compatibility to the likes of <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/snap-to-be-universal-linux-package-format" rel="nofollow">Arch</a> and <a href="https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/IMI5TP2K6A6R7PSIOUBLOE62ENIZDXOA/" rel="nofollow">Fedora</a>.</li>
<li>xdg-app rebrands as <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a> as a Snap competitor.</li>
<li>Unity 8 and <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-17.04-Unity-8-Snaps-Talk" rel="nofollow">Snaps were expected for 18.04</a></li>
<li>The backporting of Snaps to <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/install-snap-apps-ubuntu-14-04" rel="nofollow">14.04</a> was a success.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/use-snap-fedora" rel="nofollow">Fedora</a> saw that promised Snap support land.</li>
<li>Mark Shuttleworth made a <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence" rel="nofollow">game changing announcement</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/gnome-platform-snap-development" rel="nofollow">An effort</a> to slim down the size of Gnome apps succeeded.</li>
<li>The first Snap-installed-by-default <a href="https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-17-10-will-ship-a-snap-by-default/15064" rel="nofollow">shipped</a> with Ubuntu MATE 17.10.</li>
<li>The drumbeat of Snaps-installed-by-default <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2018-February/040126.html" rel="nofollow">got louder</a>.</li>
<li>Mozilla authors their own <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/firefox-snap-package-available" rel="nofollow">Snap package</a>.</li>
<li>Snap devs finally started their <a href="https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/03/28/snap-startup-time-improvements" rel="nofollow">efforts</a> to slim down the startup times.</li>
<li>Canonical&#39;s <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-chromium-browser-deb-to-snap-transition/11179" rel="nofollow">announcement</a> that Chromium would switch to a Snap.</li>
<li>Linux Mint <a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3766" rel="nofollow">forges their own path</a>. Additionally, they <a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906" rel="nofollow">blocked</a> the snapd backend.</li>
<li>The dev team <a href="https://snapcraft.io/blog/snap-speed-improvements-with-new-compression-algorithm" rel="nofollow">speeds startup times further</a>.</li>
<li>Snaps <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-6.0-Coming" rel="nofollow">killed</a> their 32-bit support.</li>
<li>Mozilla Firefox would now also be <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default" rel="nofollow">snap-only</a>.</li>
<li>The introduction of <a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-future-of-snapcraft" rel="nofollow">modularity</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/kde-snaps-performance-revving-up" rel="nofollow">More LZO compression</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2" rel="nofollow">Mozilla Firefox improves</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu Flavors <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default" rel="nofollow">no longer seed the Flatpak backend</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop" rel="nofollow">More rumblings</a> about the all snap Ubuntu.</li>
<li>Those rumblings were <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/ubuntu-core-desktop-delayed" rel="nofollow">squashed</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/canonical-wants-better-snap-support-outside-ubuntu-based-on-latest-hires/" rel="nofollow">Snap compatibility get stronger</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.10-September" rel="nofollow">KDE Plasma desktop sees Snap support</a>.</li>
<li>more <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snaps-Intel-NPU-Driver" rel="nofollow">drivers are Snapped</a>.</li>
<li>Some <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw" rel="nofollow">exploits</a> and maybe a few <a href="https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6940-2" rel="nofollow">flaws</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Extra Snap Resources</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/337969/what-are-click-packages" rel="nofollow">Click Apps</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212513/http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/" rel="nofollow">Snappy Ubuntu!</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212810/https://penguindroppings.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/snappy-security/" rel="nofollow">Snappy security</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150207153458/http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/12/its-a-snap.html" rel="nofollow">It&#39;s a Snap</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu 15.10 might have a Snappy Personal spin?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/firefox-ubuntu-snap-package" rel="nofollow">Shortly after, Mozilla said Firefox will support the Snap package format</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-16.04-Snap-Deb" rel="nofollow">Debs aren&#39;t going anywhere...</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/XDG-Desktop-Portal-Snapped" rel="nofollow">xdg-portal and snap collab?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snap-Store-Start" rel="nofollow">Snap store</a></li>
<li><a href="https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition" rel="nofollow">Another Chromium push</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Canonical-Snap-LZO" rel="nofollow">LZO compression time</a> <a href="https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/squashfs-performance-effect-on-snap-startup-time/13920" rel="nofollow">and</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-New-Modular" rel="nofollow">Snapcraft changes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/ubuntu-wont-support-flatpak-anytime-soon" rel="nofollow">April - Ubuntu Won&#39;t Support Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-22.04.1-LTS-Delayed" rel="nofollow">Mozilla&#39;s snap pushes back 22.04.1</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1" rel="nofollow">Firefox Snap Performance part 1</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2" rel="nofollow">Firefox Snap Performance part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Snap-50p-Reduction" rel="nofollow">50% reduction in start time for Firefox Snap</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default" rel="nofollow">Flapak is out, Snap is <em>still</em> in</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/cups-snap-ubuntu-23-10#comment-6196766355" rel="nofollow">An immutable Snap desktop?</a> <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop" rel="nofollow">and</a> <a href="https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-core-desktop" rel="nofollow">also</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snap-Store-Malicious-Apps" rel="nofollow">Malicious Snap Apps</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/thunderbird-snap-in-ubuntu-24-04" rel="nofollow">Thunderbird</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw" rel="nofollow">Another Exploit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/ubuntu-will-manually-review-snap-store-after-crypto-wallet-scams/" rel="nofollow">And another?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Better-Cross-Distro-Snaps" rel="nofollow">Better Cross Distro Support</a></li>
</ul>

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<li>John</li>
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<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

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<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
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<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
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<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
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<li>The Saigoneer</li>
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<ul>
<li>Syncing the Notes</li>
<li>The History of Snaps</li>
<li>And How Much We Absolutely Adore Them</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:34 Seeking Syncthing<br>
16:42 The History of Snaps<br>
33:52 How&#39;d 9 Years of Snaps Go?<br>
1:01:54 Next Time<br>
1:04:49 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>The Video Version</strong><br>
<strong><a href="https://youtu.be/izDzKkuEyRw" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/izDzKkuEyRw</a></strong></p>

<h2>It is all about the notes</h2>

<ul>
<li>Leo goes back to basics and uses <a href="https://syncthing.net/" rel="nofollow">SyncThing</a> to move his markdown files around that he edits using a standard <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" rel="nofollow">text editor</a>.</li>
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</ul>

<h2>The history of snap packages</h2>

<ul>
<li>Ubuntu&#39;s <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160531204608/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/820" rel="nofollow">convergence promise</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://click.readthedocs.io/en/latest/" rel="nofollow">Click apps</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/BlcTDz9ogug" rel="nofollow">Snappy Ubuntu</a></li>
<li>Click apps and Snappy apps <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20141209165441/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1434" rel="nofollow">share update technology</a>.</li>
<li>Snappy Ubuntu Core was <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2015/04/21/ubuntu-15-04-launches-with-support-for-openstack-kilo-new-lxd-hypervisor-and-snappy-core/" rel="nofollow">available</a></li>
<li>Snapcraft was <a href="https://launchpad.net/snapcraft/+milestone/2.0" rel="nofollow">released as version 2.0</a>.</li>
<li>Snaps were <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/snaps-for-classic-ubuntu" rel="nofollow">now available</a> to everyone.</li>
<li>Mozilla <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/04/21/firefox-default-browser-for-linux-users-ubuntu-new-snap-format-coming-soon/" rel="nofollow">chimed in</a> with their support.</li>
<li>Snap expanded its compatibility to the likes of <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/snap-to-be-universal-linux-package-format" rel="nofollow">Arch</a> and <a href="https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/IMI5TP2K6A6R7PSIOUBLOE62ENIZDXOA/" rel="nofollow">Fedora</a>.</li>
<li>xdg-app rebrands as <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a> as a Snap competitor.</li>
<li>Unity 8 and <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-17.04-Unity-8-Snaps-Talk" rel="nofollow">Snaps were expected for 18.04</a></li>
<li>The backporting of Snaps to <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/install-snap-apps-ubuntu-14-04" rel="nofollow">14.04</a> was a success.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/use-snap-fedora" rel="nofollow">Fedora</a> saw that promised Snap support land.</li>
<li>Mark Shuttleworth made a <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence" rel="nofollow">game changing announcement</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/gnome-platform-snap-development" rel="nofollow">An effort</a> to slim down the size of Gnome apps succeeded.</li>
<li>The first Snap-installed-by-default <a href="https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-17-10-will-ship-a-snap-by-default/15064" rel="nofollow">shipped</a> with Ubuntu MATE 17.10.</li>
<li>The drumbeat of Snaps-installed-by-default <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2018-February/040126.html" rel="nofollow">got louder</a>.</li>
<li>Mozilla authors their own <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/firefox-snap-package-available" rel="nofollow">Snap package</a>.</li>
<li>Snap devs finally started their <a href="https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/03/28/snap-startup-time-improvements" rel="nofollow">efforts</a> to slim down the startup times.</li>
<li>Canonical&#39;s <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-chromium-browser-deb-to-snap-transition/11179" rel="nofollow">announcement</a> that Chromium would switch to a Snap.</li>
<li>Linux Mint <a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3766" rel="nofollow">forges their own path</a>. Additionally, they <a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906" rel="nofollow">blocked</a> the snapd backend.</li>
<li>The dev team <a href="https://snapcraft.io/blog/snap-speed-improvements-with-new-compression-algorithm" rel="nofollow">speeds startup times further</a>.</li>
<li>Snaps <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-6.0-Coming" rel="nofollow">killed</a> their 32-bit support.</li>
<li>Mozilla Firefox would now also be <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default" rel="nofollow">snap-only</a>.</li>
<li>The introduction of <a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-future-of-snapcraft" rel="nofollow">modularity</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/kde-snaps-performance-revving-up" rel="nofollow">More LZO compression</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2" rel="nofollow">Mozilla Firefox improves</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu Flavors <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default" rel="nofollow">no longer seed the Flatpak backend</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop" rel="nofollow">More rumblings</a> about the all snap Ubuntu.</li>
<li>Those rumblings were <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/ubuntu-core-desktop-delayed" rel="nofollow">squashed</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/canonical-wants-better-snap-support-outside-ubuntu-based-on-latest-hires/" rel="nofollow">Snap compatibility get stronger</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.10-September" rel="nofollow">KDE Plasma desktop sees Snap support</a>.</li>
<li>more <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snaps-Intel-NPU-Driver" rel="nofollow">drivers are Snapped</a>.</li>
<li>Some <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw" rel="nofollow">exploits</a> and maybe a few <a href="https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6940-2" rel="nofollow">flaws</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

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</ul>

<h2>Extra Snap Resources</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/337969/what-are-click-packages" rel="nofollow">Click Apps</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212513/http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/" rel="nofollow">Snappy Ubuntu!</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212810/https://penguindroppings.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/snappy-security/" rel="nofollow">Snappy security</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150207153458/http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/12/its-a-snap.html" rel="nofollow">It&#39;s a Snap</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu 15.10 might have a Snappy Personal spin?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/firefox-ubuntu-snap-package" rel="nofollow">Shortly after, Mozilla said Firefox will support the Snap package format</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-16.04-Snap-Deb" rel="nofollow">Debs aren&#39;t going anywhere...</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/XDG-Desktop-Portal-Snapped" rel="nofollow">xdg-portal and snap collab?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snap-Store-Start" rel="nofollow">Snap store</a></li>
<li><a href="https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition" rel="nofollow">Another Chromium push</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Canonical-Snap-LZO" rel="nofollow">LZO compression time</a> <a href="https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/squashfs-performance-effect-on-snap-startup-time/13920" rel="nofollow">and</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-New-Modular" rel="nofollow">Snapcraft changes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/ubuntu-wont-support-flatpak-anytime-soon" rel="nofollow">April - Ubuntu Won&#39;t Support Flatpak</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-22.04.1-LTS-Delayed" rel="nofollow">Mozilla&#39;s snap pushes back 22.04.1</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1" rel="nofollow">Firefox Snap Performance part 1</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2" rel="nofollow">Firefox Snap Performance part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Snap-50p-Reduction" rel="nofollow">50% reduction in start time for Firefox Snap</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default" rel="nofollow">Flapak is out, Snap is <em>still</em> in</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/cups-snap-ubuntu-23-10#comment-6196766355" rel="nofollow">An immutable Snap desktop?</a> <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop" rel="nofollow">and</a> <a href="https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-core-desktop" rel="nofollow">also</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snap-Store-Malicious-Apps" rel="nofollow">Malicious Snap Apps</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/thunderbird-snap-in-ubuntu-24-04" rel="nofollow">Thunderbird</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw" rel="nofollow">Another Exploit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/ubuntu-will-manually-review-snap-store-after-crypto-wallet-scams/" rel="nofollow">And another?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Better-Cross-Distro-Snaps" rel="nofollow">Better Cross Distro Support</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

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<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we give an overdue Mozilla Watch and cover the history of Gentoo.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* Do you think Larry uses Firefox?
* The Compiled History of Gentoo
* and How we emerged from the year long journey
0:00 Cold Open
2:44 Mozilla Watch!
24:59 Gentoo - The Early Years
30:30 Gentoo - 1.0 And Beyond
35:20 Gentoo - 2007 to 2014
39:56 Gentoo - 2015 to the Present
45:37 The ENTIRE Gentoo Journey
1:20:49 Next Season?
1:24:52 Stinger
The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c)
https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c
Mozilla Watch
Mozilla recently announced some planned improvements (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-on-in-firefox/).
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The History of Gentoo
Stampede Linux (https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2937)
When a system emerged, it was called Enoch (https://web.archive.org/web/20051126223839/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p1.xml)
Making a Distro part 2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20051118195918/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p2.xml)
Sustainability of the project had made its way to the forefront (https://web.archive.org/web/20051126225230/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p3.xml).
Gentoo website ~August 2001 (https://web.archive.org/web/20010924064822/http://gentoo.org:80/)
March 3 2002 (https://web.archive.org/web/20020328041905/http://www.gentoo.org/) public facing movement was easily spotted.
March 31 2002 (https://web.archive.org/web/20020604061411/http://gentoo.org/news/20020331-gentoo.html), 1.0 was finally released!
The huge influx of new users it encouraged caused bandwidth issues for Gentoo (https://web.archive.org/web/20020604025327/http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-announce/2002-May/000161.html).
August of 2003, 1.4 was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20031207075713/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030811-newsletter.xml).
Full installation could be completed in under an hour! (https://forums.gentoo.org/posting.php?mode=quote&amp;amp;p=110077&amp;amp;sid=55086929168089cbbb9dcdac1cec05ec)
2004, marked a change (https://web.archive.org/web/20031204134123/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/index.xml) from the dot releases.
2004.0 released February 28, 2004 (https://web.archive.org/web/20040610161340/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.0/releng/2004.0-press-release.txt).
Daniel Robbins, the creator and founder, resigns from Gentoo (https://web.archive.org/web/20040501110844/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20040426-drobbins.xml).
Despite that work continued. 2004.1 was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20141224104108/http://www.gentoo.org//proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2-press-release.txt) shortly after that news, dot 2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20040803014434/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2.xml) in July and dot 3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20101223035338/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20041115-newsletter.xml) in November.
September 2005, the first Gentoo Council was elected (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council).
Daniel Robbins makes his glorious return (https://lwn.net/Articles/224082/) to the project!
This lasted about 8 days before he resigned again (https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070312#future).
Other developers joined Robbins (https://www.linux.com/news/gentoo-attempts-deal-developer-conflicts/).
Stability questions around the stability of the Gentoo Project (https://youtu.be/-ZSli7QW4rg)
October 2009, a LiveDVD release (https://web.archive.org/web/20141222231552/https://www.gentoo.org/news/20091004-gentoo-10-years.xml).
11.0, released in 2011 (https://web.archive.org/web/20141222015352/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20110308-livedvd.xml).
In 2015 A new website was announced (https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html#old-april-fools-day-announcement)! After the air was cleared, an actual NEW website (https://web.archive.org/web/20150502115556/https://www.gentoo.org/).
In 2016, Gentoo Choice Edition (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160514). Then in July, Choice Edition Part Dos (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160704).
word crimes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc)
In 2017, 17.0 in November (https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html) and an experimental 17.1 in December (https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html).
An issue on Github (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/Incident_reports/2018-06-28_Github) in 2018.
2019 saw the 17.1 profiles finally stabilize (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2019-06-05-amd64-17-1-profiles-are-now-stable.html).
In 2021, the addition of 20.0 profiles were released (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-06-20-riscv-20-profile-migration.html).
Genchu (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401215506/https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/04/01/genchu.html)
Wallpaper1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174243/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_01.jpg)
Wallpaper2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401222127/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_02.jpg)
Wallpaper3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174337/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_03.jpg)
Wallpaper4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174404/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_04.jpg)
Precompiled binaries for more packages were announced (https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html?ref=news.itsfoss.com).
March of 2024, profile version 23.0 (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2024-03-22-new-23-profiles.html).
Michał Górny notes (https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2024/05/30/the-dead-weight-of-packages-in-gentoo/) in his blog a few days before recording here that Gentoo has a problem.
Some Gentoo Quicklinks
Main Gentoo Website (https://www.gentoo.org/)
Gentoo Handbook (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page)
Gentoo Wiki (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page)
Gentoo Forums (https://forums.gentoo.org)
Gentoo Developers (https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/developers/)
Gentoo Bugtracker (https://bugs.gentoo.org/)
Gentoo Packages (https://packages.gentoo.org/)
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
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We plan to explore your feedback and some other topics in our first episode of next season. Our first history episode of the season will be Cinnamon Desktop Environment (https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon).
Come back for more Linux User Space after our break. Watch for our livestream announcements in the off-season. 
Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
⭐⭐⭐⭐Producers ❤️
John Andersen, Bruno Parisi, Johnny, Dave Jones, Visaggio &amp;amp; Co.
⭐⭐⭐Co-Producers ❤️
Tim LePés, GrouchyM, --verbose, Pjol, MarshMan
⭐⭐Super Users ❤️
Nicholas Omann, CubicleNate, sleepyeyesvince, LiNuXsys666, Jill Bryant &amp;amp; Steve Ryniker, Eduardo Sanchez, Advait, Musical Coder, Livet, Hausken, A.J. Robb, Mark the Saigoneer, jeff3ix, Jefferson Lotspeich, Blackshift6090, Rotted Mood
⭐Users ❤️
Eduardo PH, Kyle, Jon Guthery, LqLarry, James Taylor, Bobby Ramsey 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Do you think Larry uses Firefox?</li>
<li>The <em>Compiled</em> History of Gentoo</li>
<li>and How we <em>emerged</em> from the year long journey</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
2:44 Mozilla Watch!<br>
24:59 Gentoo - The Early Years<br>
30:30 Gentoo - 1.0 And Beyond<br>
35:20 Gentoo - 2007 to 2014<br>
39:56 Gentoo - 2015 to the Present<br>
45:37 The ENTIRE Gentoo Journey<br>
1:20:49 Next Season?<br>
1:24:52 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c" rel="nofollow">The Video Version!</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c</a></p>

<h2>Mozilla Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li>Mozilla recently <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-on-in-firefox/" rel="nofollow">announced some planned improvements</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of Gentoo</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2937" rel="nofollow">Stampede Linux</a></li>
<li>When a system <em>emerged</em>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20051126223839/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p1.xml" rel="nofollow">it was called Enoch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20051118195918/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p2.xml" rel="nofollow">Making a Distro part 2</a></li>
<li>Sustainability of the project had <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20051126225230/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p3.xml" rel="nofollow">made its way to the forefront</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010924064822/http://gentoo.org:80/" rel="nofollow">Gentoo website ~August 2001</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20020328041905/http://www.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">March 3 2002</a> public facing movement was easily spotted.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20020604061411/http://gentoo.org/news/20020331-gentoo.html" rel="nofollow">March 31 2002</a>, 1.0 was finally released!</li>
<li>The huge influx of new users it encouraged caused <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20020604025327/http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-announce/2002-May/000161.html" rel="nofollow">bandwidth issues for Gentoo</a>.</li>
<li>August of 2003, 1.4 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031207075713/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030811-newsletter.xml" rel="nofollow">was released</a>.</li>
<li>Full installation <a href="https://forums.gentoo.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=110077&sid=55086929168089cbbb9dcdac1cec05ec" rel="nofollow">could be completed in under an hour!</a></li>
<li>2004, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031204134123/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/index.xml" rel="nofollow">marked a change</a> from the dot releases.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040610161340/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.0/releng/2004.0-press-release.txt" rel="nofollow">2004.0 released February 28, 2004</a>.</li>
<li>Daniel Robbins, the creator and founder, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040501110844/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20040426-drobbins.xml" rel="nofollow">resigns from Gentoo</a>.</li>
<li>Despite that work continued. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20141224104108/http://www.gentoo.org//proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2-press-release.txt" rel="nofollow">2004.1 was released</a> shortly after that news, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040803014434/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2.xml" rel="nofollow">dot 2</a> in July and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101223035338/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20041115-newsletter.xml" rel="nofollow">dot 3</a> in November.</li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council" rel="nofollow">September 2005, the first Gentoo Council was elected</a>.</li>
<li>Daniel Robbins <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/224082/" rel="nofollow">makes his glorious return</a> to the project!</li>
<li>This lasted about 8 days before he <a href="https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070312#future" rel="nofollow">resigned again</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.com/news/gentoo-attempts-deal-developer-conflicts/" rel="nofollow">Other developers joined Robbins</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/-ZSli7QW4rg" rel="nofollow">Stability questions around the stability of the Gentoo Project</a></li>
<li>October 2009, a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20141222231552/https://www.gentoo.org/news/20091004-gentoo-10-years.xml" rel="nofollow">LiveDVD release</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20141222015352/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20110308-livedvd.xml" rel="nofollow">11.0, released in 2011</a>.</li>
<li>In 2015 A <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html#old-april-fools-day-announcement" rel="nofollow">new website was announced</a>! After the air was cleared, an actual <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150502115556/https://www.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">NEW website</a>.</li>
<li>In 2016, <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160514" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Choice Edition</a>. Then in July, <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160704" rel="nofollow">Choice Edition Part Dos</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc" rel="nofollow">word crimes</a></li>
<li>In 2017, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html" rel="nofollow">17.0 in November</a> and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html" rel="nofollow">an experimental 17.1 in December</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/Incident_reports/2018-06-28_Github" rel="nofollow">An issue on Github</a> in 2018.</li>
<li>2019 saw the <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2019-06-05-amd64-17-1-profiles-are-now-stable.html" rel="nofollow">17.1 profiles finally stabilize</a>.</li>
<li>In 2021, the addition of 20.0 profiles <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-06-20-riscv-20-profile-migration.html" rel="nofollow">were released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401215506/https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/04/01/genchu.html" rel="nofollow">Genchu</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174243/https://dev.gentoo.org/%7Ealicef/wallpaper_01.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wallpaper1</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401222127/https://dev.gentoo.org/%7Ealicef/wallpaper_02.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wallpaper2</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174337/https://dev.gentoo.org/%7Ealicef/wallpaper_03.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wallpaper3</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174404/https://dev.gentoo.org/%7Ealicef/wallpaper_04.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wallpaper4</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Precompiled binaries for more packages <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html?ref=news.itsfoss.com" rel="nofollow">were announced</a>.</li>
<li>March of 2024, <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2024-03-22-new-23-profiles.html" rel="nofollow">profile version 23.0</a>.</li>
<li>Michał Górny <a href="https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2024/05/30/the-dead-weight-of-packages-in-gentoo/" rel="nofollow">notes</a> in his blog a few days before recording here that Gentoo has a problem.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Some Gentoo Quicklinks</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">Main Gentoo Website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Handbook</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forums.gentoo.org" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/developers/" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Developers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugs.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Bugtracker</a></li>
<li><a href="https://packages.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Packages</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
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</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭 Next Season?</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to explore your feedback and some other topics in our first episode of next season. Our first history episode of the season will be <a href="https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon" rel="nofollow">Cinnamon Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back for more Linux User Space after our break. Watch for our livestream announcements in the off-season.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<p>⭐⭐⭐⭐<strong>Producers</strong> ❤️<br>
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⭐⭐⭐<strong>Co-Producers</strong> ❤️<br>
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⭐⭐<strong>Super Users</strong> ❤️<br>
Nicholas Omann, CubicleNate, sleepyeyesvince, LiNuXsys666, Jill Bryant &amp; Steve Ryniker, Eduardo Sanchez, Advait, Musical Coder, Livet, Hausken, A.J. Robb, Mark the Saigoneer, jeff3ix, Jefferson Lotspeich, Blackshift6090, Rotted Mood<br>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Do you think Larry uses Firefox?</li>
<li>The <em>Compiled</em> History of Gentoo</li>
<li>and How we <em>emerged</em> from the year long journey</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
2:44 Mozilla Watch!<br>
24:59 Gentoo - The Early Years<br>
30:30 Gentoo - 1.0 And Beyond<br>
35:20 Gentoo - 2007 to 2014<br>
39:56 Gentoo - 2015 to the Present<br>
45:37 The ENTIRE Gentoo Journey<br>
1:20:49 Next Season?<br>
1:24:52 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c" rel="nofollow">The Video Version!</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c</a></p>

<h2>Mozilla Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li>Mozilla recently <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-on-in-firefox/" rel="nofollow">announced some planned improvements</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of Gentoo</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2937" rel="nofollow">Stampede Linux</a></li>
<li>When a system <em>emerged</em>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20051126223839/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p1.xml" rel="nofollow">it was called Enoch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20051118195918/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p2.xml" rel="nofollow">Making a Distro part 2</a></li>
<li>Sustainability of the project had <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20051126225230/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p3.xml" rel="nofollow">made its way to the forefront</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010924064822/http://gentoo.org:80/" rel="nofollow">Gentoo website ~August 2001</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20020328041905/http://www.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">March 3 2002</a> public facing movement was easily spotted.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20020604061411/http://gentoo.org/news/20020331-gentoo.html" rel="nofollow">March 31 2002</a>, 1.0 was finally released!</li>
<li>The huge influx of new users it encouraged caused <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20020604025327/http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-announce/2002-May/000161.html" rel="nofollow">bandwidth issues for Gentoo</a>.</li>
<li>August of 2003, 1.4 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031207075713/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030811-newsletter.xml" rel="nofollow">was released</a>.</li>
<li>Full installation <a href="https://forums.gentoo.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=110077&sid=55086929168089cbbb9dcdac1cec05ec" rel="nofollow">could be completed in under an hour!</a></li>
<li>2004, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031204134123/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/index.xml" rel="nofollow">marked a change</a> from the dot releases.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040610161340/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.0/releng/2004.0-press-release.txt" rel="nofollow">2004.0 released February 28, 2004</a>.</li>
<li>Daniel Robbins, the creator and founder, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040501110844/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20040426-drobbins.xml" rel="nofollow">resigns from Gentoo</a>.</li>
<li>Despite that work continued. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20141224104108/http://www.gentoo.org//proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2-press-release.txt" rel="nofollow">2004.1 was released</a> shortly after that news, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040803014434/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2.xml" rel="nofollow">dot 2</a> in July and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101223035338/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20041115-newsletter.xml" rel="nofollow">dot 3</a> in November.</li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council" rel="nofollow">September 2005, the first Gentoo Council was elected</a>.</li>
<li>Daniel Robbins <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/224082/" rel="nofollow">makes his glorious return</a> to the project!</li>
<li>This lasted about 8 days before he <a href="https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070312#future" rel="nofollow">resigned again</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.com/news/gentoo-attempts-deal-developer-conflicts/" rel="nofollow">Other developers joined Robbins</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/-ZSli7QW4rg" rel="nofollow">Stability questions around the stability of the Gentoo Project</a></li>
<li>October 2009, a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20141222231552/https://www.gentoo.org/news/20091004-gentoo-10-years.xml" rel="nofollow">LiveDVD release</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20141222015352/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20110308-livedvd.xml" rel="nofollow">11.0, released in 2011</a>.</li>
<li>In 2015 A <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html#old-april-fools-day-announcement" rel="nofollow">new website was announced</a>! After the air was cleared, an actual <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150502115556/https://www.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">NEW website</a>.</li>
<li>In 2016, <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160514" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Choice Edition</a>. Then in July, <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160704" rel="nofollow">Choice Edition Part Dos</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc" rel="nofollow">word crimes</a></li>
<li>In 2017, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html" rel="nofollow">17.0 in November</a> and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html" rel="nofollow">an experimental 17.1 in December</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/Incident_reports/2018-06-28_Github" rel="nofollow">An issue on Github</a> in 2018.</li>
<li>2019 saw the <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2019-06-05-amd64-17-1-profiles-are-now-stable.html" rel="nofollow">17.1 profiles finally stabilize</a>.</li>
<li>In 2021, the addition of 20.0 profiles <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-06-20-riscv-20-profile-migration.html" rel="nofollow">were released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401215506/https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/04/01/genchu.html" rel="nofollow">Genchu</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174243/https://dev.gentoo.org/%7Ealicef/wallpaper_01.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wallpaper1</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401222127/https://dev.gentoo.org/%7Ealicef/wallpaper_02.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wallpaper2</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174337/https://dev.gentoo.org/%7Ealicef/wallpaper_03.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wallpaper3</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174404/https://dev.gentoo.org/%7Ealicef/wallpaper_04.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wallpaper4</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Precompiled binaries for more packages <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html?ref=news.itsfoss.com" rel="nofollow">were announced</a>.</li>
<li>March of 2024, <a href="https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2024-03-22-new-23-profiles.html" rel="nofollow">profile version 23.0</a>.</li>
<li>Michał Górny <a href="https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2024/05/30/the-dead-weight-of-packages-in-gentoo/" rel="nofollow">notes</a> in his blog a few days before recording here that Gentoo has a problem.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Some Gentoo Quicklinks</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">Main Gentoo Website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Handbook</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forums.gentoo.org" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/developers/" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Developers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugs.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Bugtracker</a></li>
<li><a href="https://packages.gentoo.org/" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Packages</a></li>
</ul>

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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we discuss the AI revolution and where the Linux desktop fits. We also cover the extensive history of the Mate desktop environment. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* The AI Revolution is Coming
* The History of MATE
* We Read the Tea Leaves
* Then Look to Lighten the Load
The Video
https://youtu.be/rKEIwDb1R9Q
0:00 Cold Open
4:09 Embrace the AI Overlords
21:45 The History of MATE
42:22 How Is MATE?
1:05:16 Next Time
1:07:51 Stinger
Preshow - The Computer Shopper
Dan is sitting on a gold mine with his collection of Computer Shoppers (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;amp;_nkw=computer+shopper+magazine&amp;amp;_sacat=0)
🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop
Deepin OS is working on adding AI in (https://www.deepin.org/en/deepin-and-ai/) Another link (https://news.itsfoss.com/deepin-linux-distro-ai/)
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
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* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
The History of Mate
The first MATE org blogpost (https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2011-12-05-introducing-mate-desktop/)
The initial Arch Linux forum post (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121162&amp;amp;p=1)
Perberos described the fork as... (https://youtu.be/iwQ7iqNwRKs?t=64)
Phoronix August 2011 (https://www.phoronix.com/news/OTgxMA)
ingeek 2011 (https://web.archive.org/web/20140214105804/http://ingeek.com/a-gnome-2-fork-the-mate-desktop-environment)
Perberos attempted to grow the community on the Ubuntu forums (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11333073) and Linux Mint forums (https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=86481)
Perberos, Clement Lefebvre, Stefano Karapetsas, and Steve Zesch were the founders (https://web.archive.org/web/20120122102625/http://mate-desktop.org:80/team/).
The initial migration script (https://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.1/)
Salix (https://forum.salixos.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&amp;amp;t=3510#p22897) had been one of the very first distributions to headline MATE
The GNOME team created GNOME Flashback (https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeFlashback#History)
MATE University (https://github.com/mate-desktop-legacy-archive/mate-university)
GhostBSD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GhostBSD) features the Mate desktop
By the end of the year and into 2014 (https://youtu.be/iwQ7iqNwRKs), MATE was officially available in Arch, Debian, Fedora, Linux Mint, openSUSE, Sabayon, Salix and Ubuntu.
Stefano Karapestas stepped up (https://youtu.be/sRNK9QnnvCo?t=1395) to lead the team.
Clem had his part-ownership of MATE removed. He had this to say (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4591)
The big scoop MATE 1.28 (https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/releases/tag/v1.28.0) and1.28.1 (https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/releases/tag/v1.28.1) were recently released!
More 📣Announcements📣
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Next Time
Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the LXDE Desktop Environment (https://www.lxde.org/).
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
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<ul>
<li>The AI Revolution is Coming</li>
<li>The History of MATE</li>
<li>We Read the Tea Leaves</li>
<li>Then Look to Lighten the Load</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>The Video</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/rKEIwDb1R9Q" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/rKEIwDb1R9Q</a></p>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
4:09 Embrace the AI Overlords<br>
21:45 The History of MATE<br>
42:22 How Is MATE?<br>
1:05:16 Next Time<br>
1:07:51 Stinger</p>

<h2>Preshow - The Computer Shopper</h2>

<ul>
<li>Dan is sitting on a <a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=computer+shopper+magazine&_sacat=0" rel="nofollow">gold mine with his collection of Computer Shoppers</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.deepin.org/en/deepin-and-ai/" rel="nofollow">Deepin OS is working on adding AI in</a> <a href="https://news.itsfoss.com/deepin-linux-distro-ai/" rel="nofollow">Another link</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

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<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of Mate</h2>

<ul>
<li>The first <a href="https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2011-12-05-introducing-mate-desktop/" rel="nofollow">MATE org blogpost</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121162&p=1" rel="nofollow">The initial Arch Linux forum post</a></li>
<li>Perberos <a href="https://youtu.be/iwQ7iqNwRKs?t=64" rel="nofollow">described the fork as...</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/OTgxMA" rel="nofollow">Phoronix August 2011</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140214105804/http://ingeek.com/a-gnome-2-fork-the-mate-desktop-environment" rel="nofollow">ingeek 2011</a></li>
<li>Perberos attempted to grow the community on the <a href="https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11333073" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu forums</a> and <a href="https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=86481" rel="nofollow">Linux Mint forums</a></li>
<li>Perberos, Clement Lefebvre, Stefano Karapetsas, and Steve Zesch <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120122102625/http://mate-desktop.org:80/team/" rel="nofollow">were the founders</a>.</li>
<li>The initial <a href="https://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.1/" rel="nofollow">migration script</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forum.salixos.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3510#p22897" rel="nofollow">Salix</a> had been one of the very first distributions to headline MATE</li>
<li>The GNOME team <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeFlashback#History" rel="nofollow">created GNOME Flashback</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/mate-desktop-legacy-archive/mate-university" rel="nofollow">MATE University</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GhostBSD" rel="nofollow">GhostBSD</a> features the Mate desktop</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/iwQ7iqNwRKs" rel="nofollow">By the end of the year and into 2014</a>, MATE was officially available in Arch, Debian, Fedora, Linux Mint, openSUSE, Sabayon, Salix and Ubuntu.</li>
<li>Stefano Karapestas <a href="https://youtu.be/sRNK9QnnvCo?t=1395" rel="nofollow">stepped up</a> to lead the team.</li>
<li>Clem had his part-ownership of MATE removed. <a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4591" rel="nofollow">He had this to say</a></li>
<li><strong>The big scoop</strong> <a href="https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/releases/tag/v1.28.0" rel="nofollow">MATE 1.28</a> and<a href="https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/releases/tag/v1.28.1" rel="nofollow">1.28.1</a> were recently released!</li>
</ul>

<h2>More 📣Announcements📣</h2>

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<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the <a href="https://www.lxde.org/" rel="nofollow">LXDE Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Mark the Saigoneer</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The AI Revolution is Coming</li>
<li>The History of MATE</li>
<li>We Read the Tea Leaves</li>
<li>Then Look to Lighten the Load</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>The Video</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/rKEIwDb1R9Q" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/rKEIwDb1R9Q</a></p>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
4:09 Embrace the AI Overlords<br>
21:45 The History of MATE<br>
42:22 How Is MATE?<br>
1:05:16 Next Time<br>
1:07:51 Stinger</p>

<h2>Preshow - The Computer Shopper</h2>

<ul>
<li>Dan is sitting on a <a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=computer+shopper+magazine&_sacat=0" rel="nofollow">gold mine with his collection of Computer Shoppers</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.deepin.org/en/deepin-and-ai/" rel="nofollow">Deepin OS is working on adding AI in</a> <a href="https://news.itsfoss.com/deepin-linux-distro-ai/" rel="nofollow">Another link</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of Mate</h2>

<ul>
<li>The first <a href="https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2011-12-05-introducing-mate-desktop/" rel="nofollow">MATE org blogpost</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121162&p=1" rel="nofollow">The initial Arch Linux forum post</a></li>
<li>Perberos <a href="https://youtu.be/iwQ7iqNwRKs?t=64" rel="nofollow">described the fork as...</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/OTgxMA" rel="nofollow">Phoronix August 2011</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140214105804/http://ingeek.com/a-gnome-2-fork-the-mate-desktop-environment" rel="nofollow">ingeek 2011</a></li>
<li>Perberos attempted to grow the community on the <a href="https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11333073" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu forums</a> and <a href="https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=86481" rel="nofollow">Linux Mint forums</a></li>
<li>Perberos, Clement Lefebvre, Stefano Karapetsas, and Steve Zesch <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120122102625/http://mate-desktop.org:80/team/" rel="nofollow">were the founders</a>.</li>
<li>The initial <a href="https://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.1/" rel="nofollow">migration script</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forum.salixos.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3510#p22897" rel="nofollow">Salix</a> had been one of the very first distributions to headline MATE</li>
<li>The GNOME team <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeFlashback#History" rel="nofollow">created GNOME Flashback</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/mate-desktop-legacy-archive/mate-university" rel="nofollow">MATE University</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GhostBSD" rel="nofollow">GhostBSD</a> features the Mate desktop</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/iwQ7iqNwRKs" rel="nofollow">By the end of the year and into 2014</a>, MATE was officially available in Arch, Debian, Fedora, Linux Mint, openSUSE, Sabayon, Salix and Ubuntu.</li>
<li>Stefano Karapestas <a href="https://youtu.be/sRNK9QnnvCo?t=1395" rel="nofollow">stepped up</a> to lead the team.</li>
<li>Clem had his part-ownership of MATE removed. <a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4591" rel="nofollow">He had this to say</a></li>
<li><strong>The big scoop</strong> <a href="https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/releases/tag/v1.28.0" rel="nofollow">MATE 1.28</a> and<a href="https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/releases/tag/v1.28.1" rel="nofollow">1.28.1</a> were recently released!</li>
</ul>

<h2>More 📣Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy.</p>

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<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the <a href="https://www.lxde.org/" rel="nofollow">LXDE Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Mark the Saigoneer</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>Pjol</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 4:13: Passion with Compassion</title>
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  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode we add to the KDE story, we talk about treating others like humans, we discuss some feedback, and we give a little focus on Gentoo.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* We add to the KDE saga
* We search for the humans on the other end of the Internet
* We pour over the Feedback
* We focus on the Gentoo feedback
The Video Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALGS4Vtei0
Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:30 The KDE AMA
7:47 The Truth About KDE 4.0
19:46 AppImage Is Broken in Ubuntu
24:47 There Be Humans Out There
40:07 Reverb Focus!
* 41:33 Douglas (Old Mac, New Tricks)
* 49:29 Bruce (Well, Why Don't Ya?!)
* 55:12 Jayden (GNOME Syndrome)
1:04:15 The Care &amp;amp; Feeding of Gentoo (feat. Ryan)
1:15:51 Next Time!
1:20:32 Stinger
🔥Warm up🔥
There was an KDE AMA on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/comment/835481) and on Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1ae4spk/plasma_6_rc_2_is_landing_on_wednesday_get_ready/)
Troy Unrau (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/comment/836067), a KDE dev, on the KDE History
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
* 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace)
* 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
There are humans on the other end of that Internet
This conversation was sparked from this Tweet (https://twitter.com/tsimonquigley2/status/1740110615404806483)
Linus gets passionate sometimes (https://web.archive.org/web/20240201103502/https://lkml.org/lkml/2024/1/26/1013)
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Reverb Focus
Douglas Paul
Douglas does his own 12 step distro hop program.
Gnome (https://www.gnome.org/), Fedora (https://fedoraproject.org/), with Extensions (https://extensions.gnome.org/) and Albert (https://albertlauncher.github.io/) is the landing spot... at least for now.
Bruce Hankins on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11)
Two categories of users, average users and power users. 
Average users don't really tinker.
Power users like to tinker (this is where Leo and Dan fall as well as many of you) but there is a small amount of us.
Installation of the system and applications is not intuitive.
Jayden on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11) AAAAAAND a Note Suggestion
Gnome with gestures and multi-touch (https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/Gestures) are great.
A couple of note taking apps for Leo to chase - Xournal++ (https://xournalpp.github.io/) and Rnote (https://rnote.flxzt.net/)
🧹Housekeeping🧹
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
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* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
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* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
Gentoo Focus
Kerneltux sent in his "care and feeding" notes for Gentoo. We plan to go over a few of these on an upcoming livestream (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch).
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to explore and provide the history of Mate Desktop Environment (https://mate-desktop.org/).
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
Dave
John
Johnny
Co-Producer
Tim
GrouchyM
Super User
A.J.
Advait
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
Hausken
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Nicholas
Nick
sleepyeyesvince
The Saigoneer
Tobias 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>We add to the KDE saga</li>
<li>We search for the humans on the other end of the Internet</li>
<li>We pour over the Feedback</li>
<li>We focus on the Gentoo feedback</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>The Video Version</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALGS4Vtei0" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALGS4Vtei0</a></p>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 The KDE AMA<br>
7:47 The Truth About KDE 4.0<br>
19:46 AppImage Is Broken in Ubuntu<br>
24:47 There Be Humans Out There<br>
40:07 Reverb Focus!</p>

<ul>
<li>41:33 Douglas (Old Mac, New Tricks)</li>
<li>49:29 Bruce (Well, Why Don&#39;t Ya?!)</li>
<li>55:12 Jayden (GNOME Syndrome)
1:04:15 The Care &amp; Feeding of Gentoo (feat. Ryan)
1:15:51 Next Time!
1:20:32 Stinger</li>
</ul>

<h2>🔥Warm up🔥</h2>

<ul>
<li>There was an <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/comment/835481" rel="nofollow">KDE AMA on Lemmy</a> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1ae4spk/plasma_6_rc_2_is_landing_on_wednesday_get_ready/" rel="nofollow">and on Reddit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/comment/836067" rel="nofollow">Troy Unrau</a>, a KDE dev, on the KDE History</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>There are humans on the other end of that Internet</h2>

<ul>
<li>This conversation was sparked from <a href="https://twitter.com/tsimonquigley2/status/1740110615404806483" rel="nofollow">this Tweet</a></li>
<li>Linus gets <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240201103502/https://lkml.org/lkml/2024/1/26/1013" rel="nofollow">passionate sometimes</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Reverb Focus</h2>

<h3>Douglas Paul</h3>

<ul>
<li>Douglas does his own 12 step distro hop program.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">Gnome</a>, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/" rel="nofollow">Fedora</a>, with <a href="https://extensions.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">Extensions</a> and <a href="https://albertlauncher.github.io/" rel="nofollow">Albert</a> is the landing spot... at least for now.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Bruce Hankins on Why Don&#39;t You Use Linux (4:11)</h3>

<ul>
<li>Two categories of users, average users and power users. </li>
<li>Average users don&#39;t really tinker.</li>
<li>Power users like to tinker (this is where Leo and Dan fall as well as many of you) but there is a small amount of us.</li>
<li>Installation of the system and applications is not intuitive.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Jayden on Why Don&#39;t You Use Linux (4:11) AAAAAAND a Note Suggestion</h3>

<ul>
<li>Gnome <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/Gestures" rel="nofollow">with gestures and multi-touch</a> are great.</li>
<li>A couple of note taking apps for Leo to chase - <a href="https://xournalpp.github.io/" rel="nofollow">Xournal++</a> and <a href="https://rnote.flxzt.net/" rel="nofollow">Rnote</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Gentoo Focus</h2>

<ul>
<li>Kerneltux sent in his &quot;care and feeding&quot; notes for Gentoo. We plan to go over a few of these on an upcoming <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">livestream</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to explore and provide the history of <a href="https://mate-desktop.org/" rel="nofollow">Mate Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>We add to the KDE saga</li>
<li>We search for the humans on the other end of the Internet</li>
<li>We pour over the Feedback</li>
<li>We focus on the Gentoo feedback</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>The Video Version</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALGS4Vtei0" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALGS4Vtei0</a></p>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 The KDE AMA<br>
7:47 The Truth About KDE 4.0<br>
19:46 AppImage Is Broken in Ubuntu<br>
24:47 There Be Humans Out There<br>
40:07 Reverb Focus!</p>

<ul>
<li>41:33 Douglas (Old Mac, New Tricks)</li>
<li>49:29 Bruce (Well, Why Don&#39;t Ya?!)</li>
<li>55:12 Jayden (GNOME Syndrome)
1:04:15 The Care &amp; Feeding of Gentoo (feat. Ryan)
1:15:51 Next Time!
1:20:32 Stinger</li>
</ul>

<h2>🔥Warm up🔥</h2>

<ul>
<li>There was an <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/comment/835481" rel="nofollow">KDE AMA on Lemmy</a> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1ae4spk/plasma_6_rc_2_is_landing_on_wednesday_get_ready/" rel="nofollow">and on Reddit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/comment/836067" rel="nofollow">Troy Unrau</a>, a KDE dev, on the KDE History</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
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<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>There are humans on the other end of that Internet</h2>

<ul>
<li>This conversation was sparked from <a href="https://twitter.com/tsimonquigley2/status/1740110615404806483" rel="nofollow">this Tweet</a></li>
<li>Linus gets <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240201103502/https://lkml.org/lkml/2024/1/26/1013" rel="nofollow">passionate sometimes</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

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</ul>

<h2>Reverb Focus</h2>

<h3>Douglas Paul</h3>

<ul>
<li>Douglas does his own 12 step distro hop program.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">Gnome</a>, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/" rel="nofollow">Fedora</a>, with <a href="https://extensions.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">Extensions</a> and <a href="https://albertlauncher.github.io/" rel="nofollow">Albert</a> is the landing spot... at least for now.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Bruce Hankins on Why Don&#39;t You Use Linux (4:11)</h3>

<ul>
<li>Two categories of users, average users and power users. </li>
<li>Average users don&#39;t really tinker.</li>
<li>Power users like to tinker (this is where Leo and Dan fall as well as many of you) but there is a small amount of us.</li>
<li>Installation of the system and applications is not intuitive.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Jayden on Why Don&#39;t You Use Linux (4:11) AAAAAAND a Note Suggestion</h3>

<ul>
<li>Gnome <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/Gestures" rel="nofollow">with gestures and multi-touch</a> are great.</li>
<li>A couple of note taking apps for Leo to chase - <a href="https://xournalpp.github.io/" rel="nofollow">Xournal++</a> and <a href="https://rnote.flxzt.net/" rel="nofollow">Rnote</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

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<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
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</ul>

<h2>Gentoo Focus</h2>

<ul>
<li>Kerneltux sent in his &quot;care and feeding&quot; notes for Gentoo. We plan to go over a few of these on an upcoming <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">livestream</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to explore and provide the history of <a href="https://mate-desktop.org/" rel="nofollow">Mate Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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  <title>Episode 4:02: Bits From Debian</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2023 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky. In this episode we banter about some Prime Day purchases and give the history of Debian as well as our thoughts on the latest release.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* An NVMe for me
* The Shure Next To You
* Of course, the History of Debian
* Our Thoughts of it over the monthSSSS
0:00 Cold Open
1:04 A Few Good Deals
16:14 The History of Debian | The Beginning
18:00 The History of Debian | 1993 - 1994
22:23 The History of Debian | 1995 - 1998
26:15 The History of Debian | 1999 &amp;amp; Y2k
31:11 The History of Debian | 2001 - 2009
36:40 The History of Debian | 2010 - 2020
42:39 The History of Debian | 2021 - 2027
45:33 A Month of Debian 12 Thoughts
1:13:24 - Next Time | Fedora Silverblue &amp;amp; Topics
1:18:03 Stinger
The video version on Youtube (https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk)
https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk
Banter
Dan's new 💾 NVMe (https://www.crucial.com/ssd/p3-plus/CT2000P3PSSD8)
Dan's new 🎤 Shure audio interface (https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/accessories/x2u-xlr-usb-interface?variant=X2U)
Announcements
📺️ Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace).
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😍 If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace
The History of Debian
Before Debian there was Softlanding Linux (https://web.archive.org/web/20211215084534/https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux/c/Q4fxCi2g0kc/m/Z6vfd2aLSQwJ).
August 16, 1993, Ian Murdock's announcement that started it all (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHistory?action=AttachFile&amp;amp;do=view&amp;amp;target=Debian-announcement-1993.txt#CA-c114de97e513912ade3e21cedd1d833957c8edf6_13).
January 1994, Ian releases the Debian Manifesto (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/manifesto).
April 1, 1994, Ian was struggling to keep up with it all and needed a break (https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1994/msg00005.html).
March 1996, Ian steps down as Debian Project Leader (https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1996/msg00003.html). Leaving Bruce Perens to take up the job.
The FSF pulls sponsorship (https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.misc/c/A30TG4KRx4Y/m/WKi_Yx0iuTAJ) but later the FSF "resumed cordial relations" (https://www.debian.org/intro/cooperation).
June 17, 1996, Debian 1.1 is released (https://web.archive.org/web/19970616164301/http://www.debian.org/1.1/release.html) with the first ever codename based on Toy Story characters. It was named Buzz (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuzz), after Buzz Lightyear. A list of all the Debian releases (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/releases.en.html).
February 1, 1997, A board of directors had been elected (https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00000.html) for Software in the Public Interest.
February 20, 1997, Debian shows its intent to ratify a constitution (https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00005.html).
July 1, 1997, Debian is really launched into space (https://www.debian.org/News/1997/19970626a) this time to monitor plant growth in microgravity, sending video and other data (https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2186) back home.
December 2, 1998, Debian ratifies a Constitution (https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution.1.0).
At the beginning of 1999, Wichert Akkerman was elected Debian Project Leader and started with giving Debian a permanent identity. 
Logo on debian.org as of April 14, 1997 (https://web.archive.org/web/19970414140629im_/http://www.debian.org/Pics/debian.jpg)
January 24, 1999, the logo license for Captain Blue-Eye, expired again (https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/1999/4/mail#mail2).
February 4, 1999, a Logo contest announcement (https://www.debian.org/News/1999/19990204)!
May 3, 1999, the submissions were in. (https://www.debian.org/vote/1999/vote_0004) Captain Blue-Eye was thought to be too Linux-specific (https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/1999/14/mail#mail1).
June 8, 1999, The iconic swirl that we see today won the vote (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/1999/07/msg00005.html).
July 6, 1999, dpkg version 2, which was hinted (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/05/msg01405.html) at by Ben Collins back in May, is now officially a thing and the specifications are out there boasting a more modular design (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/1999/07/msg00012.html).
Debian weathered the Y2k storm with no major problems (https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2000/1/).
In October 2001, LAN Comp Systems begin mastering Debian 3.0 on DVD (https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/25/2250255/debian-on-dvd) ahead of the official release.
Debian 3.0 was delayed because of broken boot floppies (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2001/04/msg00004.html).
2002, the first net installation images were available (https://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst/).
2007, through a disagreement with Mozilla on backporting security fixes, would be replaced (https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox#Iceweasel) by the free-software version, Iceweasel.
2013, the trailing 0 on the major release is dropped (https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg01020.html). Minor releases will continue adding the point, as in .1, .2, etc.
Also in 2013, multi-arch support (https://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b) is added.
2020, Jonathan Carter (https://jonathancarter.org/) was elected Debian Project Leader and has been reaffirmed three more times, and is currently serving as Leader.
June 10, 2023, Debian 12 is released (https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/), codenamed Bookworm.
More Announcements
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Debian Quick links
Main Web Site (https://www.debian.org)
Blog (https://bits.debian.org)
User Forums (https://forums.debian.net)
Bug Tracking System (https://www.debian.org/Bugs/)
Debian at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian)
Debian History page (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html)
Debian releases (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/releases.en.html)
The Debian Handbook - The Debian Project (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/the-debian-project.en.html)
List of Debian Project Leaders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Debian_project_leaders)
Housekeeping
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
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Next Time
Some topics and some feedback. Our next distro is the Fedora Immutable Desktops so Fedora Silverblue (https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/) or Fedora Kinoite (https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/) or Fedora Sericea (https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/).
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
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John
Dave
Johnny
Co-Producer
Tim
Super User
Advait
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Musical Coder
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<li>An NVMe for me</li>
<li>The Shure Next To You</li>
<li>Of course, the History of Debian</li>
<li>Our Thoughts of it over the monthSSSS</li>
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<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:04 A Few Good Deals<br>
16:14 The History of Debian | The Beginning<br>
18:00 The History of Debian | 1993 - 1994<br>
22:23 The History of Debian | 1995 - 1998<br>
26:15 The History of Debian | 1999 &amp; Y2k<br>
31:11 The History of Debian | 2001 - 2009<br>
36:40 The History of Debian | 2010 - 2020<br>
42:39 The History of Debian | 2021 - 2027<br>
45:33 A Month of Debian 12 Thoughts<br>
1:13:24 - Next Time | Fedora Silverblue &amp; Topics<br>
1:18:03 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk" rel="nofollow">The video version on Youtube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li>Dan&#39;s new 💾 <a href="https://www.crucial.com/ssd/p3-plus/CT2000P3PSSD8" rel="nofollow">NVMe</a></li>
<li>Dan&#39;s new 🎤 <a href="https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/accessories/x2u-xlr-usb-interface?variant=X2U" rel="nofollow">Shure audio interface</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>📺️ Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a>.</li>
<li>📽️ You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>😍 If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>The History of Debian</h1>

<ul>
<li>Before Debian there was <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20211215084534/https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux/c/Q4fxCi2g0kc/m/Z6vfd2aLSQwJ" rel="nofollow">Softlanding Linux</a>.</li>
<li>August 16, 1993, Ian Murdock&#39;s <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHistory?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Debian-announcement-1993.txt#CA-c114de97e513912ade3e21cedd1d833957c8edf6_13" rel="nofollow">announcement that started it all</a>.</li>
<li>January 1994, Ian releases the <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/manifesto" rel="nofollow">Debian Manifesto</a>.</li>
<li>April 1, 1994, Ian was struggling to keep up with it all and <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1994/msg00005.html" rel="nofollow">needed a break</a>.</li>
<li>March 1996, Ian steps down as <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1996/msg00003.html" rel="nofollow">Debian Project Leader</a>. Leaving Bruce Perens to take up the job.</li>
<li><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.misc/c/A30TG4KRx4Y/m/WKi_Yx0iuTAJ" rel="nofollow">The FSF pulls sponsorship</a> but later the FSF <a href="https://www.debian.org/intro/cooperation" rel="nofollow">&quot;resumed cordial relations&quot;</a>.</li>
<li>June 17, 1996, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/19970616164301/http://www.debian.org/1.1/release.html" rel="nofollow">Debian 1.1 is released</a> with the first ever codename based on Toy Story characters. It was <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuzz" rel="nofollow">named Buzz</a>, after Buzz Lightyear. A list of all the <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/releases.en.html" rel="nofollow">Debian releases</a>.</li>
<li>February 1, 1997, A board of directors <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00000.html" rel="nofollow">had been elected</a> for Software in the Public Interest.</li>
<li>February 20, 1997, Debian shows its <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00005.html" rel="nofollow">intent to ratify a constitution</a>.</li>
<li>July 1, 1997, Debian is <em>really</em> <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/1997/19970626a" rel="nofollow">launched into space</a> this time to monitor plant growth in microgravity, <a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2186" rel="nofollow">sending video and other data</a> back home.</li>
<li>December 2, 1998, Debian <a href="https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution.1.0" rel="nofollow">ratifies a Constitution</a>.</li>
<li>At the beginning of 1999, Wichert Akkerman was elected Debian Project Leader and started with giving Debian a permanent identity. </li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/19970414140629im_/http://www.debian.org/Pics/debian.jpg" rel="nofollow"><em>Logo on debian.org as of April 14, 1997</em></a></li>
<li>January 24, 1999, the logo license for Captain Blue-Eye, <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/1999/4/mail#mail2" rel="nofollow">expired again</a>.</li>
<li>February 4, 1999, a <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/1999/19990204" rel="nofollow">Logo contest announcement</a>!</li>
<li>May 3, 1999, the <a href="https://www.debian.org/vote/1999/vote_0004" rel="nofollow">submissions were in.</a> Captain Blue-Eye was thought to be <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/1999/14/mail#mail1" rel="nofollow">too Linux-specific</a>.</li>
<li>June 8, 1999, The iconic swirl that we see today <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/1999/07/msg00005.html" rel="nofollow">won the vote</a>.</li>
<li>July 6, 1999, dpkg version 2, which was <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/05/msg01405.html" rel="nofollow">hinted</a> at by Ben Collins back in May, is now officially <em>a thing</em> and the specifications are out there <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/1999/07/msg00012.html" rel="nofollow">boasting a more modular design</a>.</li>
<li>Debian weathered the Y2k storm with <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2000/1/" rel="nofollow">no major problems</a>.</li>
<li>In October 2001, LAN Comp Systems begin <a href="https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/25/2250255/debian-on-dvd" rel="nofollow">mastering Debian 3.0 on DVD</a> ahead of the official release.</li>
<li>Debian 3.0 was delayed because of <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2001/04/msg00004.html" rel="nofollow">broken boot floppies</a>.</li>
<li>2002, the first net installation images <a href="https://people.debian.org/%7Eieure/netinst/" rel="nofollow">were available</a>.</li>
<li>2007, through a disagreement with Mozilla on backporting security fixes, <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox#Iceweasel" rel="nofollow">would be replaced</a> by the free-software version, Iceweasel.</li>
<li>2013, the <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg01020.html" rel="nofollow">trailing 0 on the major release is dropped</a>. Minor releases will continue adding the point, as in .1, .2, etc.</li>
<li>Also in 2013, <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b" rel="nofollow">multi-arch support</a> is added.</li>
<li>2020, <a href="https://jonathancarter.org/" rel="nofollow">Jonathan Carter</a> was elected Debian Project Leader and has been reaffirmed three more times, and is currently serving as Leader.</li>
<li>June 10, 2023, Debian 12 <a href="https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/" rel="nofollow">is released</a>, codenamed Bookworm.</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Debian Quick links</h3>

<ul>
<li>Main <a href="https://www.debian.org" rel="nofollow">Web Site</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bits.debian.org" rel="nofollow">Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forums.debian.net" rel="nofollow">User Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/Bugs/" rel="nofollow">Bug Tracking System</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian" rel="nofollow">Debian at Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html" rel="nofollow">Debian History page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/releases.en.html" rel="nofollow">Debian releases</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/the-debian-project.en.html" rel="nofollow">The Debian Handbook - The Debian Project</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Debian_project_leaders" rel="nofollow">List of Debian Project Leaders</a></li>
</ul>

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<li>Eduardo S.</li>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>An NVMe for me</li>
<li>The Shure Next To You</li>
<li>Of course, the History of Debian</li>
<li>Our Thoughts of it over the monthSSSS</li>
</ul>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:04 A Few Good Deals<br>
16:14 The History of Debian | The Beginning<br>
18:00 The History of Debian | 1993 - 1994<br>
22:23 The History of Debian | 1995 - 1998<br>
26:15 The History of Debian | 1999 &amp; Y2k<br>
31:11 The History of Debian | 2001 - 2009<br>
36:40 The History of Debian | 2010 - 2020<br>
42:39 The History of Debian | 2021 - 2027<br>
45:33 A Month of Debian 12 Thoughts<br>
1:13:24 - Next Time | Fedora Silverblue &amp; Topics<br>
1:18:03 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk" rel="nofollow">The video version on Youtube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li>Dan&#39;s new 💾 <a href="https://www.crucial.com/ssd/p3-plus/CT2000P3PSSD8" rel="nofollow">NVMe</a></li>
<li>Dan&#39;s new 🎤 <a href="https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/accessories/x2u-xlr-usb-interface?variant=X2U" rel="nofollow">Shure audio interface</a></li>
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<h1>The History of Debian</h1>

<ul>
<li>Before Debian there was <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20211215084534/https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux/c/Q4fxCi2g0kc/m/Z6vfd2aLSQwJ" rel="nofollow">Softlanding Linux</a>.</li>
<li>August 16, 1993, Ian Murdock&#39;s <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHistory?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Debian-announcement-1993.txt#CA-c114de97e513912ade3e21cedd1d833957c8edf6_13" rel="nofollow">announcement that started it all</a>.</li>
<li>January 1994, Ian releases the <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/manifesto" rel="nofollow">Debian Manifesto</a>.</li>
<li>April 1, 1994, Ian was struggling to keep up with it all and <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1994/msg00005.html" rel="nofollow">needed a break</a>.</li>
<li>March 1996, Ian steps down as <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1996/msg00003.html" rel="nofollow">Debian Project Leader</a>. Leaving Bruce Perens to take up the job.</li>
<li><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.misc/c/A30TG4KRx4Y/m/WKi_Yx0iuTAJ" rel="nofollow">The FSF pulls sponsorship</a> but later the FSF <a href="https://www.debian.org/intro/cooperation" rel="nofollow">&quot;resumed cordial relations&quot;</a>.</li>
<li>June 17, 1996, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/19970616164301/http://www.debian.org/1.1/release.html" rel="nofollow">Debian 1.1 is released</a> with the first ever codename based on Toy Story characters. It was <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuzz" rel="nofollow">named Buzz</a>, after Buzz Lightyear. A list of all the <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/releases.en.html" rel="nofollow">Debian releases</a>.</li>
<li>February 1, 1997, A board of directors <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00000.html" rel="nofollow">had been elected</a> for Software in the Public Interest.</li>
<li>February 20, 1997, Debian shows its <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00005.html" rel="nofollow">intent to ratify a constitution</a>.</li>
<li>July 1, 1997, Debian is <em>really</em> <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/1997/19970626a" rel="nofollow">launched into space</a> this time to monitor plant growth in microgravity, <a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2186" rel="nofollow">sending video and other data</a> back home.</li>
<li>December 2, 1998, Debian <a href="https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution.1.0" rel="nofollow">ratifies a Constitution</a>.</li>
<li>At the beginning of 1999, Wichert Akkerman was elected Debian Project Leader and started with giving Debian a permanent identity. </li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/19970414140629im_/http://www.debian.org/Pics/debian.jpg" rel="nofollow"><em>Logo on debian.org as of April 14, 1997</em></a></li>
<li>January 24, 1999, the logo license for Captain Blue-Eye, <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/1999/4/mail#mail2" rel="nofollow">expired again</a>.</li>
<li>February 4, 1999, a <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/1999/19990204" rel="nofollow">Logo contest announcement</a>!</li>
<li>May 3, 1999, the <a href="https://www.debian.org/vote/1999/vote_0004" rel="nofollow">submissions were in.</a> Captain Blue-Eye was thought to be <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/1999/14/mail#mail1" rel="nofollow">too Linux-specific</a>.</li>
<li>June 8, 1999, The iconic swirl that we see today <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/1999/07/msg00005.html" rel="nofollow">won the vote</a>.</li>
<li>July 6, 1999, dpkg version 2, which was <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/05/msg01405.html" rel="nofollow">hinted</a> at by Ben Collins back in May, is now officially <em>a thing</em> and the specifications are out there <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/1999/07/msg00012.html" rel="nofollow">boasting a more modular design</a>.</li>
<li>Debian weathered the Y2k storm with <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2000/1/" rel="nofollow">no major problems</a>.</li>
<li>In October 2001, LAN Comp Systems begin <a href="https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/25/2250255/debian-on-dvd" rel="nofollow">mastering Debian 3.0 on DVD</a> ahead of the official release.</li>
<li>Debian 3.0 was delayed because of <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2001/04/msg00004.html" rel="nofollow">broken boot floppies</a>.</li>
<li>2002, the first net installation images <a href="https://people.debian.org/%7Eieure/netinst/" rel="nofollow">were available</a>.</li>
<li>2007, through a disagreement with Mozilla on backporting security fixes, <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox#Iceweasel" rel="nofollow">would be replaced</a> by the free-software version, Iceweasel.</li>
<li>2013, the <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg01020.html" rel="nofollow">trailing 0 on the major release is dropped</a>. Minor releases will continue adding the point, as in .1, .2, etc.</li>
<li>Also in 2013, <a href="https://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b" rel="nofollow">multi-arch support</a> is added.</li>
<li>2020, <a href="https://jonathancarter.org/" rel="nofollow">Jonathan Carter</a> was elected Debian Project Leader and has been reaffirmed three more times, and is currently serving as Leader.</li>
<li>June 10, 2023, Debian 12 <a href="https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/" rel="nofollow">is released</a>, codenamed Bookworm.</li>
</ul>

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<h3>Debian Quick links</h3>

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<li>Main <a href="https://www.debian.org" rel="nofollow">Web Site</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bits.debian.org" rel="nofollow">Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forums.debian.net" rel="nofollow">User Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/Bugs/" rel="nofollow">Bug Tracking System</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian" rel="nofollow">Debian at Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html" rel="nofollow">Debian History page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/releases.en.html" rel="nofollow">Debian releases</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/the-debian-project.en.html" rel="nofollow">The Debian Handbook - The Debian Project</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Debian_project_leaders" rel="nofollow">List of Debian Project Leaders</a></li>
</ul>

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<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
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<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>Nick</li>
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  <title>Episode 3:14: GeckoLinux and the Side Quest</title>
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A podcast focused on connecting user space and community.
We explore the history of GeckoLinux and give our thoughts on running it for a month (and a half). We go on some side adventures too.
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
1. Helping one helps the other
2. A little off the beaten path
3. The history of GeckoLinux
4. And our experience
5. What will we think of next?
The Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5OUEGvlYc
0:00 Cold Open
1:35 Framasoft is Everywhere
5:41 Side Quest, Endeavour
10:03 Side Quest, Vanilla
19:04 GeckoLinux History 2001-2005
21:04 2015
24:39 2016-2022
29:00 2022 - January 2023
34:49 Couple of Sam Things
45:14 How It Went
53:14 Side Quest, Catppuccin
55:00 Side Quest, Ghostwriter
1:00:00 Next Time
1:07:21 Stinger
Banter
Framasoft (https://framasoft.org/en/) is the association behind both FreshRSS (https://www.freshrss.org) and Peertube (https://joinpeertube.org)
Dan's been on EndeavourOS Cassini (https://endeavouros.com/news/cassini-packed-with-new-features-is-here/)
Leo's been trying out VanillaOS (https://vanillaos.org/) started by Mirko Brombin (https://mastodon.social/@mirkobrombin)
Dan's new favorite theme - Catppuccin Macchiato (https://github.com/catppuccin/catppuccin)
Announcements
Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) 
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Gecko Linux the History
GeckoLinux (https://geckolinux.github.io)
openSUSE (https://www.opensuse.org)
November 13, 2015, the first release of GeckoLinux 421.15.1113.6 was announced (https://web.archive.org/web/20151117201144/http://geckolinux.github.io/)
Explaining the version number (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/wiki#version-numbering)
In December 2015, alongside Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome and Budgie were added (https://web.archive.org/web/20151212040452/http://geckolinux.github.io:80/). In addition a BareBones edition (https://web.archive.org/web/20160327124759/https://susestudio.com/a/OO38wm/geckolinux-barebones). And a few days later Plasma, Mate, and LXQt get their first ISOs (https://web.archive.org/web/20151231064432/http://geckolinux.github.io:80/)
SUSE Studio Express (https://www.suse.com/c/suse-studio-online-open-build-service-suse-studio-express/)
Budgie put on ice (https://groups.google.com/g/geckolinux-updates/c/kv0OOBXOJvA) for a while.
Pantheon is added (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/200830.152-Pantheon).  AND the Budgie ROLLING and NEXT editions make a return (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/200830.152-Budgie).
A vote for which default filesystem was held (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/issues/210) with btrfs winning. The same vote, but for the STATIC edition was held (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/issues/226).
Static will have a sunset in the future due to the change in LEAP (https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/SHINA373OTC7M4CVICCKXDUXN5C3MYX3/)
 Since that has happened yet GeckoLinux released after 15.4 (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/220822.154)
Extra Information
https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109419
https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109458
https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/
https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/post-109567
More Announcements
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Next Time
We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is CentOS (https://www.centos.org)
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!
Producer
Bruno
John
Dave
Co-Producer
Johnny
Tim
Super User
Advait
Bjørnar
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Nicholas
Paul
sleepyeyesvince 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Helping one helps the other</li>
<li>A little off the beaten path</li>
<li>The history of GeckoLinux</li>
<li>And our experience</li>
<li>What will we think of next?</li>
</ol>

<p>The Video<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5OUEGvlYc" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5OUEGvlYc</a></p>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:35 Framasoft is Everywhere<br>
5:41 Side Quest, Endeavour<br>
10:03 Side Quest, Vanilla<br>
19:04 GeckoLinux History 2001-2005<br>
21:04 2015<br>
24:39 2016-2022<br>
29:00 2022 - January 2023<br>
34:49 Couple of Sam Things<br>
45:14 How It Went<br>
53:14 Side Quest, Catppuccin<br>
55:00 Side Quest, Ghostwriter<br>
1:00:00 Next Time<br>
1:07:21 Stinger</p>

<hr>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://framasoft.org/en/" rel="nofollow">Framasoft</a> is the association behind both <a href="https://www.freshrss.org" rel="nofollow">FreshRSS</a> and <a href="https://joinpeertube.org" rel="nofollow">Peertube</a></li>
<li>Dan&#39;s been on <a href="https://endeavouros.com/news/cassini-packed-with-new-features-is-here/" rel="nofollow">EndeavourOS Cassini</a></li>
<li>Leo&#39;s been trying out <a href="https://vanillaos.org/" rel="nofollow">VanillaOS</a> started by <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mirkobrombin" rel="nofollow">Mirko Brombin</a></li>
<li>Dan&#39;s new favorite theme - <a href="https://github.com/catppuccin/catppuccin" rel="nofollow">Catppuccin Macchiato</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Gecko Linux the History</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geckolinux.github.io" rel="nofollow">GeckoLinux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.opensuse.org" rel="nofollow">openSUSE</a></li>
<li>November 13, 2015, the first release of <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20151117201144/http://geckolinux.github.io/" rel="nofollow">GeckoLinux 421.15.1113.6 was announced</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/wiki#version-numbering" rel="nofollow">Explaining the version number</a></li>
<li>In December 2015, alongside Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome and Budgie <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20151212040452/http://geckolinux.github.io:80/" rel="nofollow">were added</a>. In addition a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160327124759/https://susestudio.com/a/OO38wm/geckolinux-barebones" rel="nofollow">BareBones edition</a>. And a few days later Plasma, Mate, and LXQt <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20151231064432/http://geckolinux.github.io:80/" rel="nofollow">get their first ISOs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.suse.com/c/suse-studio-online-open-build-service-suse-studio-express/" rel="nofollow">SUSE Studio Express</a></li>
<li>Budgie <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/geckolinux-updates/c/kv0OOBXOJvA" rel="nofollow">put on ice</a> for a while.</li>
<li>Pantheon is <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/200830.152-Pantheon" rel="nofollow">added</a>.  <em>AND</em> the Budgie ROLLING and NEXT editions <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/200830.152-Budgie" rel="nofollow">make a return</a>.</li>
<li>A vote for which default filesystem <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/issues/210" rel="nofollow">was held</a> with btrfs winning. The same vote, but for the STATIC edition <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/issues/226" rel="nofollow">was held</a>.</li>
<li>Static will have a sunset in the future due to the change in <a href="https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/SHINA373OTC7M4CVICCKXDUXN5C3MYX3/" rel="nofollow">LEAP</a></li>
<li> Since that has happened yet GeckoLinux <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/220822.154" rel="nofollow">released after 15.4</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Extra Information</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109419" rel="nofollow">https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109419</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109458" rel="nofollow">https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109458</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/" rel="nofollow">https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/post-109567" rel="nofollow">https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/post-109567</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>More Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is <a href="https://www.centos.org" rel="nofollow">CentOS</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Helping one helps the other</li>
<li>A little off the beaten path</li>
<li>The history of GeckoLinux</li>
<li>And our experience</li>
<li>What will we think of next?</li>
</ol>

<p>The Video<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5OUEGvlYc" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5OUEGvlYc</a></p>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:35 Framasoft is Everywhere<br>
5:41 Side Quest, Endeavour<br>
10:03 Side Quest, Vanilla<br>
19:04 GeckoLinux History 2001-2005<br>
21:04 2015<br>
24:39 2016-2022<br>
29:00 2022 - January 2023<br>
34:49 Couple of Sam Things<br>
45:14 How It Went<br>
53:14 Side Quest, Catppuccin<br>
55:00 Side Quest, Ghostwriter<br>
1:00:00 Next Time<br>
1:07:21 Stinger</p>

<hr>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://framasoft.org/en/" rel="nofollow">Framasoft</a> is the association behind both <a href="https://www.freshrss.org" rel="nofollow">FreshRSS</a> and <a href="https://joinpeertube.org" rel="nofollow">Peertube</a></li>
<li>Dan&#39;s been on <a href="https://endeavouros.com/news/cassini-packed-with-new-features-is-here/" rel="nofollow">EndeavourOS Cassini</a></li>
<li>Leo&#39;s been trying out <a href="https://vanillaos.org/" rel="nofollow">VanillaOS</a> started by <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mirkobrombin" rel="nofollow">Mirko Brombin</a></li>
<li>Dan&#39;s new favorite theme - <a href="https://github.com/catppuccin/catppuccin" rel="nofollow">Catppuccin Macchiato</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Gecko Linux the History</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geckolinux.github.io" rel="nofollow">GeckoLinux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.opensuse.org" rel="nofollow">openSUSE</a></li>
<li>November 13, 2015, the first release of <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20151117201144/http://geckolinux.github.io/" rel="nofollow">GeckoLinux 421.15.1113.6 was announced</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/wiki#version-numbering" rel="nofollow">Explaining the version number</a></li>
<li>In December 2015, alongside Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome and Budgie <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20151212040452/http://geckolinux.github.io:80/" rel="nofollow">were added</a>. In addition a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160327124759/https://susestudio.com/a/OO38wm/geckolinux-barebones" rel="nofollow">BareBones edition</a>. And a few days later Plasma, Mate, and LXQt <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20151231064432/http://geckolinux.github.io:80/" rel="nofollow">get their first ISOs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.suse.com/c/suse-studio-online-open-build-service-suse-studio-express/" rel="nofollow">SUSE Studio Express</a></li>
<li>Budgie <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/geckolinux-updates/c/kv0OOBXOJvA" rel="nofollow">put on ice</a> for a while.</li>
<li>Pantheon is <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/200830.152-Pantheon" rel="nofollow">added</a>.  <em>AND</em> the Budgie ROLLING and NEXT editions <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/200830.152-Budgie" rel="nofollow">make a return</a>.</li>
<li>A vote for which default filesystem <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/issues/210" rel="nofollow">was held</a> with btrfs winning. The same vote, but for the STATIC edition <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/issues/226" rel="nofollow">was held</a>.</li>
<li>Static will have a sunset in the future due to the change in <a href="https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/SHINA373OTC7M4CVICCKXDUXN5C3MYX3/" rel="nofollow">LEAP</a></li>
<li> Since that has happened yet GeckoLinux <a href="https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/220822.154" rel="nofollow">released after 15.4</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Extra Information</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109419" rel="nofollow">https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109419</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109458" rel="nofollow">https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109458</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/" rel="nofollow">https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/post-109567" rel="nofollow">https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/post-109567</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>More Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
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<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is <a href="https://www.centos.org" rel="nofollow">CentOS</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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A podcast focused on connecting user space and community.
In this episode we talk about joining TILvids, giving back, browsers, feedback, a great technical community member and keeping secure together.
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  <description>Coming up in this episode
1. Today I Learned
2. Let's get generous
3. Browser Watch!
4. So much feedback
5. Automated whack-a-mole
Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:47 We're on TILvids
14:20 Johnny's Fundraising Drive!
22:19 Johnny's Distro Apocalypse
36:13 Mozilla Watch feat. Vivaldi
53:21 Feedback: furicle
53:52 Feedback: py
57:03 Feedback: georgh
1:02:18 Feedback: Anon
1:06:57 Feedback: Daniel
1:09:19 Community Focus: Techno Tim
1:13:16 App Focus: CrowdSec
1:22:24 Next Time: Gecko Linux
1:23:57 Stinger
The Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JOoe0ivuI
Banter
We're on TILvids! (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
What the heck is a TILvids? (https://tilvids.com/w/e58xxgfeYXM2R3wouecxEm)
Announcements
Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and now TILvids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops.
Feedback from Johnny
Leo's pick for a project to support - Kdenlive (https://kdenlive.org/en/fund/)
Dan's pick for a project to support - FreshRSS (https://liberapay.com/FreshRSS/)
Leo's pick if his top 3 distros went away - openSUSE Tumbleweed (https://www.opensuse.org/#Tumbleweed)
Dan's pick if his top 3 distros went away - Fedora (https://getfedora.org)
Housekeeping
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon)
* Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
* Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
Browser Watch
Mozilla
Adding accessibility (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-accessibility-text-recognition-screen-readers/)
https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/
 Cache the World! (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/CacheTheWorld)
Reflecting on a decade of anti-tracking (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/mozilla-anti-tracking-milestones-timeline/)
Vivaldi
New web panel is enabled for Mastodon (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-6-on-desktop/) on Vivaldi's own Mastodon instance. (https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/vivaldi-social-a-new-mastodon-instance/) tl;dr you can change it for any other Mastodon instance too.
More Feedback
History show possibilities.
furicle on Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/@furicle/109433001649525625)
Have you tried BunsenLabs?
py on Mastodon (https://troet.cafe/@py/109501553939756086)
Leo has had an interest since "The end." (https://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=38916)
Emacs thoughts
georgh on the History of Emacs clip (https://youtu.be/8dpnow-j000)
Leo went down the Internet Rabbit Hole and suggests this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV-7J5y1TQc)
More Announcements
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show
Community Focus
Techno Tim's website with all of his links (https://technotim.live)
App Focus
CrowdSec (https://www.crowdsec.net/)
Next Time
We will discuss GeckoLinux (https://geckolinux.github.io) and the history.
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!
Producer
Bruno
John
Dave
Co-Producer
Johnny
Tim
Super User
Advait
Bjørnar
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Nicholas
Paul
sleepyeyesvince 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Today I Learned</li>
<li>Let&#39;s get generous</li>
<li>Browser Watch!</li>
<li>So much feedback</li>
<li>Automated whack-a-mole</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:47 We&#39;re on TILvids<br>
14:20 Johnny&#39;s Fundraising Drive!<br>
22:19 Johnny&#39;s Distro Apocalypse<br>
36:13 Mozilla Watch feat. Vivaldi<br>
53:21 Feedback: furicle<br>
53:52 Feedback: py<br>
57:03 Feedback: georgh<br>
1:02:18 Feedback: Anon<br>
1:06:57 Feedback: Daniel<br>
1:09:19 Community Focus: Techno Tim<br>
1:13:16 App Focus: CrowdSec<br>
1:22:24 Next Time: Gecko Linux<br>
1:23:57 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>The Video</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JOoe0ivuI" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JOoe0ivuI</a></p>

<hr>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">We&#39;re on TILvids!</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tilvids.com/w/e58xxgfeYXM2R3wouecxEm" rel="nofollow">What the heck is a TILvids?</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> and now <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Feedback from Johnny</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://kdenlive.org/en/fund/" rel="nofollow">Leo&#39;s pick for a project to support - Kdenlive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://liberapay.com/FreshRSS/" rel="nofollow">Dan&#39;s pick for a project to support - FreshRSS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.opensuse.org/#Tumbleweed" rel="nofollow">Leo&#39;s pick if his top 3 distros went away - openSUSE Tumbleweed</a></li>
<li><a href="https://getfedora.org" rel="nofollow">Dan&#39;s pick if his top 3 distros went away - Fedora</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

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<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-accessibility-text-recognition-screen-readers/" rel="nofollow">Adding accessibility</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/" rel="nofollow">https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/CacheTheWorld" rel="nofollow">Cache the World!</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/mozilla-anti-tracking-milestones-timeline/" rel="nofollow">Reflecting on a decade of anti-tracking</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Vivaldi</h4>

<ul>
<li>New web panel is <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-6-on-desktop/" rel="nofollow">enabled for Mastodon</a> on Vivaldi&#39;s own <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/vivaldi-social-a-new-mastodon-instance/" rel="nofollow">Mastodon instance.</a> tl;dr you can change it for any other Mastodon instance too.</li>
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<hr>

<h3>More Feedback</h3>

<h4>History show possibilities.</h4>

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<li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@furicle/109433001649525625" rel="nofollow">furicle on Mastodon</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h4>Have you tried BunsenLabs?</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://troet.cafe/@py/109501553939756086" rel="nofollow">py on Mastodon</a></li>
<li>Leo has had an interest since <a href="https://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=38916" rel="nofollow">&quot;The end.&quot;</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h4>Emacs thoughts</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/8dpnow-j000" rel="nofollow">georgh on the History of Emacs clip</a></li>
<li>Leo went down the Internet Rabbit Hole and suggests this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV-7J5y1TQc" rel="nofollow">video</a></li>
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<li>Let&#39;s get generous</li>
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<li>So much feedback</li>
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0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:47 We&#39;re on TILvids<br>
14:20 Johnny&#39;s Fundraising Drive!<br>
22:19 Johnny&#39;s Distro Apocalypse<br>
36:13 Mozilla Watch feat. Vivaldi<br>
53:21 Feedback: furicle<br>
53:52 Feedback: py<br>
57:03 Feedback: georgh<br>
1:02:18 Feedback: Anon<br>
1:06:57 Feedback: Daniel<br>
1:09:19 Community Focus: Techno Tim<br>
1:13:16 App Focus: CrowdSec<br>
1:22:24 Next Time: Gecko Linux<br>
1:23:57 Stinger</p>

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<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-accessibility-text-recognition-screen-readers/" rel="nofollow">Adding accessibility</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/" rel="nofollow">https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/CacheTheWorld" rel="nofollow">Cache the World!</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/mozilla-anti-tracking-milestones-timeline/" rel="nofollow">Reflecting on a decade of anti-tracking</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Vivaldi</h4>

<ul>
<li>New web panel is <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-6-on-desktop/" rel="nofollow">enabled for Mastodon</a> on Vivaldi&#39;s own <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/vivaldi-social-a-new-mastodon-instance/" rel="nofollow">Mastodon instance.</a> tl;dr you can change it for any other Mastodon instance too.</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>More Feedback</h3>

<h4>History show possibilities.</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@furicle/109433001649525625" rel="nofollow">furicle on Mastodon</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h4>Have you tried BunsenLabs?</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://troet.cafe/@py/109501553939756086" rel="nofollow">py on Mastodon</a></li>
<li>Leo has had an interest since <a href="https://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=38916" rel="nofollow">&quot;The end.&quot;</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h4>Emacs thoughts</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/8dpnow-j000" rel="nofollow">georgh on the History of Emacs clip</a></li>
<li>Leo went down the Internet Rabbit Hole and suggests this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV-7J5y1TQc" rel="nofollow">video</a></li>
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<li><a href="https://technotim.live" rel="nofollow">Techno Tim&#39;s website with all of his links</a></li>
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<p><strong><a href="https://www.crowdsec.net/" rel="nofollow">CrowdSec</a></strong></p>

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<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We will discuss <a href="https://geckolinux.github.io" rel="nofollow">GeckoLinux</a> and the history.</strong></p>

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  <description>Coming up in this episode
1. We're diskless
2. We take a LEAF out of the history book
3. We climb the Alpine mountain
4. Pick a very small editor
5. And we don our hoodies
Youtube Link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4NiS70bDU)
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0:00 Cold Open
1:30 No Disks for You!
10:35 1997, LRP
11:43 2000, No More Money
13:09 2001, LRP Struggles
13:59 2003, LRP Put to Rest + LEAF and GNAP
14:58 2004, GNAP v0.5
15:04 2005, A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine
16:18 2006, Alpine 1.4 | 2007, Alpine 1.5 and 1.6
16:37 2008, Alpine 2.0 Added Busybox
16:54 2009, Alpine 1.8 and 1.9
17:13 2010, Alpine 1.10 and 2.0
18:05 2011, Alpine 2.2 and 2.3
18:28 2012, Alpine 2.4 and 2.5
18:51 2013, Alpine and the Container Renaissance
20:11 2014, Alpine 3.0 and musl libc
20:43 2015, Alpine 3.2, 3.3 and Some Restructuring
21:19 2016, Alpine 3.4, 3.5 and OpenSSL
21:55 2017, Alpine 3.6, 3.7 and PostmarketOS
22:39 2018, Alpine 3.8 and Raspberry Pi 3 Support
23:01 2019, Alpine 3.9, 3.10 and 3.11
24:08 2020, Alpine 3.12 and the Last LEAF
24:28 2021, Alpine 3.13, 3.14 and 3.15
25:10 2022, Alpine 3.16 and the End of the History
26:45 What is Alpine, Really?
41:34 Our Thoughts on Alpine
1:04:07 Next Time! More Text Ed and a New Distro
1:13:58 Stinger
Banter
Disks! They're dead, Jim.
Dan's 3TB Seagate - not noted for reliability but was reliable.
Leo's 240GB Adata SU630
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Alpine Linux the History
Back in 1997, Dave Cineage created the Linux Router Project, or LRP. (https://web.archive.org/web/19981212030604/http://www.linuxrouter.org/)
The Linux Embedded Appliance Framework, or LEAF project was started (https://web.archive.org/web/20010702160257/http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=13751)
Oxygen (https://web.archive.org/web/20010702153509/http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=47922)
EigerStein (https://web.archive.org/web/20011101024349/http://leaf.sourceforge.net:80/content.php?menu=9&amp;amp;page_id=2)
The Linux Router Project was done (https://web.archive.org/web/20060421174527/http://www.linuxrouter.org/)
The LEAF project was still there (https://lwn.net/Articles/37894/)
August of 2005, Natanael Copa, while working (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5n_5Idlxvo) for a non-profit company on VPNs and firewalls, announced (https://web.archive.org/web/20110615024325/http://osdir.com/ml/linux.leaf.devel/2005-08/msg00039.html) a new distribution on the linux.leaf.devel mailing list.
Alpine originally stood for (https://web.archive.org/web/20100508011627/http://www.alpinelinux.org/wiki/About) A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine.
The earlier versions are a little cloudy, but we see (https://web.archive.org/web/20081013232448/http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page) Alpine 1.4 being developed in 2006, 1.5 in 2007, Alpine 1.6 released on April 30th of 2007 and the switch to development of 1.7 in the days after.
Alpine 2.0, the then development branch, first commit "added busybox" (https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/commit/645531103b2ee8ef54d53a58eca3b52f7d3fb9ac)
Alpine 1.9 (https://web.archive.org/web/20091103100326/http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Release_Notes_for_Alpine_1.9.0) - OpenRC shipped and able to install on hard disks.
A new website is launched (https://web.archive.org/web/20101212021228/http://alpinelinux.org/wiki/Main_Page)
Alpine Linux 2.0 is released (https://web.archive.org/web/20100821094210/http://www.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Release_Notes_for_Alpine_2.0.0)
The team announced the Alpine Linux Forum. (https://web.archive.org/web/20160531153546/http://www.alpinelinux.org:80/posts/Alpine-Linux-forums.html)
Alpine 3.0 is released, and uClibc is dropped (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.0.0-released.html) in favor of musl libc.
Alpine 3.2 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.2.0-released.html) and included the MATE desktop.
Alpine 3.3 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.3.0-released.html) with big renames of the editions that already existed.
Alpine 3.4 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.4.0-released.html) with support for running within VM's, better DNS support and running on the Linux Kernel's Long Term Support release 4.4.
Alpine 3.5 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.5.0-released.html) and this marks the first version to drop OpenSSL for LibreSSL.
Alpine 3.6 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.6.0-released.html) with support for 64-bit PowerPC and IBM z Systems.
Alpine 3.7 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.7.0-released.html) and now supports EFI and GRUB.
Alpine 3.8 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.8.0-released.html) a bit behind schedule and marks the only release of the year.
Alpine 3.9 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.9.0-released.html) improved GRUB support, initial support for the newish ARMv7 and the switch back to OpenSSL.
Alpine 3.10 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.10.0-released.html) with lightdm for login and display management, which shows a renewed interest in running Alpine on the desktop.
Alpine 3.11 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.11.0-released.html) with Raspberry Pi 4 support, initial Gnome and KDE Plasma support and the addition of Vulkan, DXVK and the Rust programming language.
Alpine 3.12 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.12.0-released.html) with support for the D programming language.
Alpine and others just do it better, so LEAF sees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEAF_Project) its last stable release at 7.0.1
Alpine 3.13 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.13.0-released.html) and comes with official cloud images for services like AWS, cloud-init and better wifi support on the software side.
Alpine 3.14 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.14.0-released.html) with fail2ban taking a back seat to sshguard because it... failed... to ban... and ClamAV is now community supported.
Alpine 3.15 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.15.0-released.html) with kernel module compression using gzip, Gnome 41 and Plasma 5.23 land, and disk encryption is now supported right in the installer.
Alpine 3.16 is released (https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.16.0-released.html) as the last release of this history with better NVMe support, adding SSH keys at boot, a new admin user creation process and a new setup-desktop script for desktop environment installation.
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Alpine user handbook (https://docs.alpinelinux.org/)
Alpine Linux on Twitter (https://twitter.com/alpinelinux)
Alpine Downloads (https://www.alpinelinux.org/downloads/)
Alpine Linux Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux)
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Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
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<ol>
<li>We&#39;re diskless</li>
<li>We take a LEAF out of the history book</li>
<li>We climb the Alpine mountain</li>
<li>Pick a very small editor</li>
<li>And we don our hoodies</li>
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<h2><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4NiS70bDU" rel="nofollow"><strong>Youtube Link</strong></a></h2>

<h2><a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Support us on Patreon!</a></h2>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 No Disks for You!<br>
10:35 1997, LRP<br>
11:43 2000, No More Money<br>
13:09 2001, LRP Struggles<br>
13:59 2003, LRP Put to Rest + LEAF and GNAP<br>
14:58 2004, GNAP v0.5<br>
15:04 2005, A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine<br>
16:18 2006, Alpine 1.4 | 2007, Alpine 1.5 and 1.6<br>
16:37 2008, Alpine 2.0 Added Busybox<br>
16:54 2009, Alpine 1.8 and 1.9<br>
17:13 2010, Alpine 1.10 and 2.0<br>
18:05 2011, Alpine 2.2 and 2.3<br>
18:28 2012, Alpine 2.4 and 2.5<br>
18:51 2013, Alpine and the Container Renaissance<br>
20:11 2014, Alpine 3.0 and musl libc<br>
20:43 2015, Alpine 3.2, 3.3 and Some Restructuring<br>
21:19 2016, Alpine 3.4, 3.5 and OpenSSL<br>
21:55 2017, Alpine 3.6, 3.7 and PostmarketOS<br>
22:39 2018, Alpine 3.8 and Raspberry Pi 3 Support<br>
23:01 2019, Alpine 3.9, 3.10 and 3.11<br>
24:08 2020, Alpine 3.12 and the Last LEAF<br>
24:28 2021, Alpine 3.13, 3.14 and 3.15<br>
25:10 2022, Alpine 3.16 and the End of the History<br>
26:45 What is Alpine, Really?<br>
41:34 Our Thoughts on Alpine<br>
1:04:07 Next Time! More Text Ed and a New Distro<br>
1:13:58 Stinger</p>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<p>Disks! They&#39;re dead, Jim.</p>

<ul>
<li>Dan&#39;s 3TB Seagate - not noted for reliability but was reliable.</li>
<li>Leo&#39;s 240GB Adata SU630</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Alpine Linux the History</h3>

<ul>
<li>Back in 1997, Dave Cineage <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/19981212030604/http://www.linuxrouter.org/" rel="nofollow">created the Linux Router Project, or LRP.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010702160257/http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=13751" rel="nofollow">The Linux Embedded Appliance Framework, or LEAF project was started</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010702153509/http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=47922" rel="nofollow">Oxygen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20011101024349/http://leaf.sourceforge.net:80/content.php?menu=9&page_id=2" rel="nofollow">EigerStein</a></li>
<li>The Linux Router Project <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20060421174527/http://www.linuxrouter.org/" rel="nofollow">was done</a></li>
<li>The LEAF project <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/37894/" rel="nofollow">was still there</a></li>
<li>August of 2005, Natanael Copa, while <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5n_5Idlxvo" rel="nofollow">working</a> for a non-profit company on VPNs and firewalls, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110615024325/http://osdir.com/ml/linux.leaf.devel/2005-08/msg00039.html" rel="nofollow">announced</a> a new distribution on the linux.leaf.devel mailing list.</li>
<li>Alpine originally <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100508011627/http://www.alpinelinux.org/wiki/About" rel="nofollow">stood for</a> A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine.</li>
<li>The earlier versions are a little cloudy, but <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20081013232448/http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page" rel="nofollow">we see</a> Alpine 1.4 being developed in 2006, 1.5 in 2007, Alpine 1.6 released on April 30th of 2007 and the switch to development of 1.7 in the days after.</li>
<li>Alpine 2.0, the then development branch, first commit <a href="https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/commit/645531103b2ee8ef54d53a58eca3b52f7d3fb9ac" rel="nofollow">&quot;added busybox&quot;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20091103100326/http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Release_Notes_for_Alpine_1.9.0" rel="nofollow">Alpine 1.9</a> - OpenRC shipped and able to install on hard disks.</li>
<li>A new website <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101212021228/http://alpinelinux.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">is launched</a></li>
<li>Alpine Linux 2.0 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100821094210/http://www.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Release_Notes_for_Alpine_2.0.0" rel="nofollow">is released</a></li>
<li>The team <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160531153546/http://www.alpinelinux.org:80/posts/Alpine-Linux-forums.html" rel="nofollow">announced the Alpine Linux Forum.</a></li>
<li>Alpine 3.0 is released, and uClibc is <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.0.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">dropped</a> in favor of musl libc.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.2 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.2.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> and included the MATE desktop.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.3 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.3.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with big renames of the editions that already existed.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.4 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.4.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with support for running within VM&#39;s, better DNS support and running on the Linux Kernel&#39;s Long Term Support release 4.4.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.5 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.5.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> and this marks the first version to drop OpenSSL for LibreSSL.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.6 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.6.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with support for 64-bit PowerPC and IBM z Systems.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.7 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.7.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> and now supports EFI and GRUB.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.8 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.8.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> a bit behind schedule and marks the only release of the year.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.9 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.9.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> improved GRUB support, initial support for the newish ARMv7 and the switch back to OpenSSL.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.10 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.10.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with lightdm for login and display management, which shows a renewed interest in running Alpine on the desktop.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.11 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.11.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with Raspberry Pi 4 support, initial Gnome and KDE Plasma support and the addition of Vulkan, DXVK and the Rust programming language.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.12 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.12.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with support for the D programming language.</li>
<li>Alpine and others just do it better, so LEAF <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEAF_Project" rel="nofollow">sees</a> its last stable release at 7.0.1</li>
<li>Alpine 3.13 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.13.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> and comes with official cloud images for services like AWS, cloud-init and better wifi support on the software side.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.14 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.14.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with fail2ban taking a back seat to sshguard because it... failed... to ban... and ClamAV is now community supported.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.15 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.15.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with kernel module compression using gzip, Gnome 41 and Plasma 5.23 land, and disk encryption is now supported right in the installer.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.16 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.16.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> as the last release of this history with better NVMe support, adding SSH keys at boot, a new admin user creation process and a new <code>setup-desktop</code> script for desktop environment installation.</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>More Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
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<hr>

<h3>Alpine Linux Links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.alpinelinux.org" rel="nofollow">Alpine Linux Web Page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Alpine Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://docs.alpinelinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Alpine user handbook</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/alpinelinux" rel="nofollow">Alpine Linux on Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.alpinelinux.org/downloads/" rel="nofollow">Alpine Downloads</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux" rel="nofollow">Alpine Linux Wikipedia page</a></li>
</ul>

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<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

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<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
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<p><strong>We will discuss <a href="https://nano-editor.org" rel="nofollow">GNU Nano</a> and the history. We also hope to have a couple of topics and some feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Sravan</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Contributor</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
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<ol>
<li>We&#39;re diskless</li>
<li>We take a LEAF out of the history book</li>
<li>We climb the Alpine mountain</li>
<li>Pick a very small editor</li>
<li>And we don our hoodies</li>
</ol>

<h2><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4NiS70bDU" rel="nofollow"><strong>Youtube Link</strong></a></h2>

<h2><a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Support us on Patreon!</a></h2>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 No Disks for You!<br>
10:35 1997, LRP<br>
11:43 2000, No More Money<br>
13:09 2001, LRP Struggles<br>
13:59 2003, LRP Put to Rest + LEAF and GNAP<br>
14:58 2004, GNAP v0.5<br>
15:04 2005, A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine<br>
16:18 2006, Alpine 1.4 | 2007, Alpine 1.5 and 1.6<br>
16:37 2008, Alpine 2.0 Added Busybox<br>
16:54 2009, Alpine 1.8 and 1.9<br>
17:13 2010, Alpine 1.10 and 2.0<br>
18:05 2011, Alpine 2.2 and 2.3<br>
18:28 2012, Alpine 2.4 and 2.5<br>
18:51 2013, Alpine and the Container Renaissance<br>
20:11 2014, Alpine 3.0 and musl libc<br>
20:43 2015, Alpine 3.2, 3.3 and Some Restructuring<br>
21:19 2016, Alpine 3.4, 3.5 and OpenSSL<br>
21:55 2017, Alpine 3.6, 3.7 and PostmarketOS<br>
22:39 2018, Alpine 3.8 and Raspberry Pi 3 Support<br>
23:01 2019, Alpine 3.9, 3.10 and 3.11<br>
24:08 2020, Alpine 3.12 and the Last LEAF<br>
24:28 2021, Alpine 3.13, 3.14 and 3.15<br>
25:10 2022, Alpine 3.16 and the End of the History<br>
26:45 What is Alpine, Really?<br>
41:34 Our Thoughts on Alpine<br>
1:04:07 Next Time! More Text Ed and a New Distro<br>
1:13:58 Stinger</p>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<p>Disks! They&#39;re dead, Jim.</p>

<ul>
<li>Dan&#39;s 3TB Seagate - not noted for reliability but was reliable.</li>
<li>Leo&#39;s 240GB Adata SU630</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Alpine Linux the History</h3>

<ul>
<li>Back in 1997, Dave Cineage <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/19981212030604/http://www.linuxrouter.org/" rel="nofollow">created the Linux Router Project, or LRP.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010702160257/http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=13751" rel="nofollow">The Linux Embedded Appliance Framework, or LEAF project was started</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010702153509/http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=47922" rel="nofollow">Oxygen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20011101024349/http://leaf.sourceforge.net:80/content.php?menu=9&page_id=2" rel="nofollow">EigerStein</a></li>
<li>The Linux Router Project <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20060421174527/http://www.linuxrouter.org/" rel="nofollow">was done</a></li>
<li>The LEAF project <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/37894/" rel="nofollow">was still there</a></li>
<li>August of 2005, Natanael Copa, while <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5n_5Idlxvo" rel="nofollow">working</a> for a non-profit company on VPNs and firewalls, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110615024325/http://osdir.com/ml/linux.leaf.devel/2005-08/msg00039.html" rel="nofollow">announced</a> a new distribution on the linux.leaf.devel mailing list.</li>
<li>Alpine originally <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100508011627/http://www.alpinelinux.org/wiki/About" rel="nofollow">stood for</a> A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine.</li>
<li>The earlier versions are a little cloudy, but <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20081013232448/http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page" rel="nofollow">we see</a> Alpine 1.4 being developed in 2006, 1.5 in 2007, Alpine 1.6 released on April 30th of 2007 and the switch to development of 1.7 in the days after.</li>
<li>Alpine 2.0, the then development branch, first commit <a href="https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/commit/645531103b2ee8ef54d53a58eca3b52f7d3fb9ac" rel="nofollow">&quot;added busybox&quot;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20091103100326/http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Release_Notes_for_Alpine_1.9.0" rel="nofollow">Alpine 1.9</a> - OpenRC shipped and able to install on hard disks.</li>
<li>A new website <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101212021228/http://alpinelinux.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">is launched</a></li>
<li>Alpine Linux 2.0 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100821094210/http://www.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Release_Notes_for_Alpine_2.0.0" rel="nofollow">is released</a></li>
<li>The team <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160531153546/http://www.alpinelinux.org:80/posts/Alpine-Linux-forums.html" rel="nofollow">announced the Alpine Linux Forum.</a></li>
<li>Alpine 3.0 is released, and uClibc is <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.0.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">dropped</a> in favor of musl libc.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.2 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.2.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> and included the MATE desktop.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.3 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.3.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with big renames of the editions that already existed.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.4 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.4.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with support for running within VM&#39;s, better DNS support and running on the Linux Kernel&#39;s Long Term Support release 4.4.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.5 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.5.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> and this marks the first version to drop OpenSSL for LibreSSL.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.6 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.6.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with support for 64-bit PowerPC and IBM z Systems.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.7 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.7.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> and now supports EFI and GRUB.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.8 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.8.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> a bit behind schedule and marks the only release of the year.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.9 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.9.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> improved GRUB support, initial support for the newish ARMv7 and the switch back to OpenSSL.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.10 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.10.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with lightdm for login and display management, which shows a renewed interest in running Alpine on the desktop.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.11 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.11.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with Raspberry Pi 4 support, initial Gnome and KDE Plasma support and the addition of Vulkan, DXVK and the Rust programming language.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.12 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.12.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with support for the D programming language.</li>
<li>Alpine and others just do it better, so LEAF <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEAF_Project" rel="nofollow">sees</a> its last stable release at 7.0.1</li>
<li>Alpine 3.13 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.13.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> and comes with official cloud images for services like AWS, cloud-init and better wifi support on the software side.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.14 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.14.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with fail2ban taking a back seat to sshguard because it... failed... to ban... and ClamAV is now community supported.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.15 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.15.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> with kernel module compression using gzip, Gnome 41 and Plasma 5.23 land, and disk encryption is now supported right in the installer.</li>
<li>Alpine 3.16 <a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.16.0-released.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a> as the last release of this history with better NVMe support, adding SSH keys at boot, a new admin user creation process and a new <code>setup-desktop</code> script for desktop environment installation.</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>More Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Alpine Linux Links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.alpinelinux.org" rel="nofollow">Alpine Linux Web Page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Alpine Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://docs.alpinelinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Alpine user handbook</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/alpinelinux" rel="nofollow">Alpine Linux on Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.alpinelinux.org/downloads/" rel="nofollow">Alpine Downloads</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux" rel="nofollow">Alpine Linux Wikipedia page</a></li>
</ul>

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<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

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<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We will discuss <a href="https://nano-editor.org" rel="nofollow">GNU Nano</a> and the history. We also hope to have a couple of topics and some feedback.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Sravan</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Contributor</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
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1. The origins of the shirts
2. Ubuntu's history
3. And some thoughts on 22.04
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Audio Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:30 The Origin of the Shirts
6:43 Lubuntu's in the Backporting Biz
9:45 Ubuntu's History
11:30 2004
17:01 2005
20:11 2006
24:01 2007
29:55 2008
36:39 2009
40:16 2010
47:52 2011
55:05 2012
1:02:35 2013
1:10:03 2014
1:15:00 2015
1:20:19 2016
1:25:26 2017
1:28:49 2018
1:31:17 2019
1:33:49 2020
1:35:55 2021
1:37:19 2022
1:39:43 A Couple Thoughts on Ubuntu
1:48:13 A New Distro, and a Thanks!
1:50:26 Stinger
Banter
Dan's Shirt (https://southeastlinuxfest.org)
Leo's Shirt (https://ubuntu.com/blog/build-a-raspberry-pi-desktop-with-an-ubuntu-heart)
Lubuntu Backports are coming! (https://lubuntu.me/jammy-backports-22-04-1-cft/)
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Ubuntu The Saga
Some fast links:
Main Web Page (https://ubuntu.com)
Ubuntu Forums (https://ubuntuforums.org)
AskUbuntu (https://askubuntu.com)
Ubuntu Discourse (https://discourse.ubuntu.com)
Launchpad (https://launchpad.net)
Official Flavours (https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours)
Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com)
There are way too many links to get them all! 
We gathered a great deal from the official Ubuntu Blog (https://ubuntu.com/blog/)
The Inception (https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1186095&amp;amp;seqNum=3)
Bug #1 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1)
October 20, 2004 Warty Warthog 4.10 was the first release.
Shipit came about the same time (https://web.archive.org/web/20041210114946/http://shipit.ubuntu.com/)
Hoary Hedgehog, 5.04, is released (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-5-04-released) adding KDE and the Kubuntu flavor.
Ubuntu Foundation is Created (https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-ubuntu-foundation-announced)
Warty's 18 months are up (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-4-10-end-of-support-cycle)
Dapper Drake, 6.06, is released (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-6-06-lts-released). To date the only release that was late. Also, Xubuntu joined the family with the Xfce desktop.
Scott James Remnant dubbed it the Late To Ship release (https://netsplit.com/posts/happy-10th-birthday-ubuntu/)
Edgy Eft, 6.10 is released (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-launches-new-ubuntu-release-for-desktops-and-servers), now with more Upstart (https://upstart.ubuntu.com/)
Launch Pad 1.0 Beta released (https://ubuntu.com/blog/launchpad-1-0-beta-released)
Dell offers Ubuntu 7.04 (https://ubuntu.com/blog/dell-to-offer-ubuntu) on select devices in the US (https://web.archive.org/web/20070503024310/http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/05/01/13147.aspx)
first release of Ubuntu Studio (https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+milestone/feisty-7.04-release)
Gutsy Gibbon, 7.10 Desktop, is released (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-7-10-desktop-edition-released). Mythubuntu and Gobuntu appear here.
Launchpad is released (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-launch-of-launchpad-personal-package-archive-service-for-developers)
System76 joined the fray (https://ubuntu.com/blog/system76-announces-servers-with-ubuntu-7-10-and-canonical-support-services)
Landscape, system management and monitoring tools for Ubuntu, launches (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-general-availability-of-systems-management-and-monitoring-tool-landscape-launches-with-free-trial)
Hardy Heron, 8.04 LTS, released for Desktop (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-8-04-lts-desktop-edition-released). Wubi is also released.
Gobuntu has been made redundant (https://web.archive.org/web/20110929075747/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gobuntu-devel/2008-June/000795.html)
Launchpad 2.0 released (https://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Presents-Launchpad-2-0-91019.shtml)
Canonical open sources Launchpad (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-source-code-for-launchpad)
Karmic Koala, 9.10 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/HumanReleaseNotes), is relased and so is Ubuntu One (https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone/)
Lucid Lynx, 10.04, released (https://ubuntu.com/blog/reasons-to-celebrate-29th-april-2010) and the first hints of Lubuntu, though not official yet.
Unity announced (https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/383)
Ubuntu and Canonical sites get a facelift (https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-ubuntu-and-canonical-sites). See it here (https://web.archive.org/web/20100601092326/http://www.ubuntu.com/)
Canonical announces Ubuntu Advantage (https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-canonical-services-help-businesses-get-ahead-with-ubuntu-server-and-ubuntu-desktop)
Unity shows lots of improvement (https://ubuntu.com/blog/introduction-to-unity-launcher), but it's NOT A DOCK! (See it in action) (https://vimeo.com/12818039)
Quitter talk - Blog post (https://ubuntu.com/blog/quit)
Shipit comes to an end (https://ubuntu.com/blog/shipit-comes-to-an-end)
Oneiric Ocelot, 11.10, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes?action=show&amp;amp;redirect=OneiricOcelot%2FTechnicalOverview) and Lubuntu becomes official.
The HUD is introduced. (https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/939)
Precise Pangolin, 12.04, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop/UbuntuDesktop-12.04) Includes the Heads Up Display (https://web.archive.org/web/20120125082058/https://people.canonical.com/~ories/HUD.m4v)
Favorable reviews of Ubuntu as a whole, but also Unity (https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ubuntu-unity-making-the-desktop-seriously-efficient-again/)
The traditional installer/live CD is dead (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead).
Ubuntu comes to the phone (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-comes-to-the-phone-with-a-beautifully-distilled-interface-and-a-unique-full-pc-capability-when-docked)
Raring Ringtail, 13.04, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes)
focus on mobile (https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1195) ahead of the 14.04 release
Wubi has unresolved bugs (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-April/036993.html)
Ubuntu Kylin was born
Ubuntu Edge Announced. (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-edge)
Edge fails (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-edge-thank-you)  to meet its goal (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge#/)
Ubuntu Kylin hits 1.3m downloads (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-kylin-booms-in-china-with-over-1300000-downloads-in-less-than)
Ubuntu One's file services are being shut down (https://ubuntu.com/blog/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services)
Ubuntu Mate Remix is announced (https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-remix-inception/)
Mark Shuttleworth announces "Snappy Ubuntu" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlcTDz9ogug)
The BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu edition is available (https://ubuntu.com/blog/bqs-new-aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu-edition-the-smartphone-that-puts-content-and-services-at-your-fingertips)
"Snappy Ubuntu Core" on Raspberry Pi 2 (https://ubuntu.com/blog/snappy-ubuntu-core-on-raspberry-pi-2)
Vivid Vervet 15.04, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes)
Ubuntu MATE, nearly called Mubuntu (https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/why-not-mubuntu/7279/5), gets its first "official flavor" release
Snapcraft is announced and Snappy Apps are being called Snaps now (https://ubuntu.com/blog/java-on-snappy)
ZFS is coming to Ubuntu (https://ubuntu.com/blog/zfs-licensing-and-linux)
Acknowledgement (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-app-developer-blog-announcing-new-snap-desktop-launchers) that Snaps don't quite look right a lot of times.
Mark Shuttleworth announces that Ubuntu's Unity experiement has failed (https://ubuntu.com/blog/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence) and Gnome, not Unity8 will be the default session in Ubuntu 18.04. This also marks the end of Ubuntu Phone.
The next day, however, Marius Gripsgard of UBPorts stepped up to take the reins. (https://fossbytes.com/unity-8-ubuntu-touch-ubports/)
Zesty Zappus, 17.04, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes) and with it Ubuntu Budgie becomes an official flavor.
Ubuntu 16.04 shows up in the Windows Store (https://ubuntu.com/blog/windows-10-loves-ubuntu-loveislove), for the Windows Subsystem for Linux.
Canonical joins (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-joins-gnome-foundation-advisory-board) the Gnome Foundation Advisory Board ahead of the 18.04 release.
Bionic Beaver, 18.04, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes) and Gnome is the default DE again.
Bryan Quigley, looks to drop 32-bit hardware support (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-May/018004.html)
Cosmic Cuttlefish, 18.10, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes)
32-bit support is now in consideration to be removed, so upgrades from 18.04 are forbidden on 32-bit installs.
Lubuntu Switches to LXQt from LXDE (https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released/)
Mir 1.0 is released (https://ubuntu.com/blog/iot-graphics-mir-release-1-0)
Disco Dingo, 19.04, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseNotes) No more 32bit isos, long live 32bit.
Ubuntu for WSL2 (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-support-for-ubuntu-on-windows-subsystem-for-linux-2)
i386 architecture, or rather 32-bit support, will be dropped (https://web.archive.org/web/20190625190907/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2019-June/001261.html)
i386 architecture will not be dropped (https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts)
Eoan Ermine 19.10, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes)
Experimental ZFS support on installation is available
Chromium is snap-only (https://ubuntu.com/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition)
Rocco Interviews Mark Shuttleworth on Linux Spotlight (https://youtu.be/UDHL3youjIY)
Ubuntu in Pop Culture (https://ubuntu.com/blog/2004-to-20-04-lts-ubuntu-in-popular-culture)
Focal Fossa, 20.04, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes)
Hardware enablement is on by default on the desktop.
The Snap Store tags in for Ubuntu Software
Groovy Gorilla 20.10, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GroovyGorilla/ReleaseNotes)
Active Directory support gets added to the installer (https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;amp;px=Ubuntu-20.10-Active-Directory)
Snaps get faster (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/how-to-switch-your-snap-to-use-lzo-compression/21714)
Another lurch forward for snap theming. (https://ubuntu.com/blog/snaps-and-themes-on-the-path-to-seamless-desktop-integration)
The Ubuntu installer is being rewritten (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/refreshing-the-ubuntu-desktop-installer/20659) in Flutter.
Impish Indri, 21.10, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImpishIndri/ReleaseNotes)
Firefox follows Chromium and switches from a deb to a snap (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/feature-freeze-exception-seeding-the-official-firefox-snap-in-ubuntu-desktop/24210) - Only for main Ubuntu, not the flavors... yet.
Ubuntu gets their shiny new logo (https://ubuntu.com/blog/a-new-look-for-the-circle-of-friends)
Jammy Jellyfish, 22.04, is released. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JammyJellyfish/ReleaseNotes)
Better Active Directory integration (https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-1)
Flavors follow main Ubuntu and switch to the snap of Firefox.
A big push to improve Firefox snap performance (https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1)
The push to improve Firefox continues (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-ubuntu-core-22-is-now-available-optimised-for-iot-and-embedded-devices)
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<li>The origins of the shirts</li>
<li>Ubuntu&#39;s history</li>
<li>And some thoughts on 22.04</li>
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<p><strong>Video version</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/PCM-h_0Rqbc" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/PCM-h_0Rqbc</a></p>

<p>Support us on <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patreon</a>!</p>

<p><strong>Audio Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 The Origin of the Shirts<br>
6:43 Lubuntu&#39;s in the Backporting Biz<br>
9:45 Ubuntu&#39;s History<br>
11:30 2004<br>
17:01 2005<br>
20:11 2006<br>
24:01 2007<br>
29:55 2008<br>
36:39 2009<br>
40:16 2010<br>
47:52 2011<br>
55:05 2012<br>
1:02:35 2013<br>
1:10:03 2014<br>
1:15:00 2015<br>
1:20:19 2016<br>
1:25:26 2017<br>
1:28:49 2018<br>
1:31:17 2019<br>
1:33:49 2020<br>
1:35:55 2021<br>
1:37:19 2022<br>
1:39:43 A Couple Thoughts on Ubuntu<br>
1:48:13 A New Distro, and a Thanks!<br>
1:50:26 Stinger</p>

<hr>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://southeastlinuxfest.org" rel="nofollow">Dan&#39;s Shirt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/build-a-raspberry-pi-desktop-with-an-ubuntu-heart" rel="nofollow">Leo&#39;s Shirt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lubuntu.me/jammy-backports-22-04-1-cft/" rel="nofollow">Lubuntu Backports are coming!</a></li>
</ul>

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<h3>Ubuntu The Saga</h3>

<h4>Some fast links:</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">Main Web Page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntuforums.org" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="https://askubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">AskUbuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Discourse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://launchpad.net" rel="nofollow">Launchpad</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours" rel="nofollow">Official Flavours</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">Wiki</a></li>
</ul>

<p>There are way too many links to get them all! </p>

<p>We gathered a great deal from the official <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Blog</a></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1186095&seqNum=3" rel="nofollow">The Inception</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1" rel="nofollow">Bug #1</a></li>
<li>October 20, 2004 Warty Warthog 4.10 was the first release.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20041210114946/http://shipit.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">Shipit came about the same time</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-5-04-released" rel="nofollow">Hoary Hedgehog, 5.04, is released</a> adding KDE and the Kubuntu flavor.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-ubuntu-foundation-announced" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Foundation is Created</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-4-10-end-of-support-cycle" rel="nofollow">Warty&#39;s 18 months are up</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-6-06-lts-released" rel="nofollow">Dapper Drake, 6.06, is released</a>. To date the only release that was late. Also, Xubuntu joined the family with the Xfce desktop.</li>
<li>Scott James Remnant dubbed it the <a href="https://netsplit.com/posts/happy-10th-birthday-ubuntu/" rel="nofollow">Late To Ship release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-launches-new-ubuntu-release-for-desktops-and-servers" rel="nofollow">Edgy Eft, 6.10 is released</a>, now with more <a href="https://upstart.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">Upstart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/launchpad-1-0-beta-released" rel="nofollow">Launch Pad 1.0 Beta released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/dell-to-offer-ubuntu" rel="nofollow">Dell offers Ubuntu 7.04</a> on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20070503024310/http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/05/01/13147.aspx" rel="nofollow">select devices in the US</a></li>
<li><a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+milestone/feisty-7.04-release" rel="nofollow">first release of Ubuntu Studio</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-7-10-desktop-edition-released" rel="nofollow">Gutsy Gibbon, 7.10 Desktop, is released</a>. Mythubuntu and Gobuntu appear here.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-launch-of-launchpad-personal-package-archive-service-for-developers" rel="nofollow">Launchpad is released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/system76-announces-servers-with-ubuntu-7-10-and-canonical-support-services" rel="nofollow">System76 joined the fray</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-general-availability-of-systems-management-and-monitoring-tool-landscape-launches-with-free-trial" rel="nofollow">Landscape, system management and monitoring tools for Ubuntu, launches</a></li>
<li>Hardy Heron, 8.04 LTS, released for <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-8-04-lts-desktop-edition-released" rel="nofollow">Desktop</a>. Wubi is also released.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110929075747/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gobuntu-devel/2008-June/000795.html" rel="nofollow">Gobuntu has been made redundant</a></li>
<li><a href="https://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Presents-Launchpad-2-0-91019.shtml" rel="nofollow">Launchpad 2.0 released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-source-code-for-launchpad" rel="nofollow">Canonical open sources Launchpad</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/HumanReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Karmic Koala, 9.10</a>, is relased and so is <a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone/" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu One</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/reasons-to-celebrate-29th-april-2010" rel="nofollow">Lucid Lynx, 10.04, released</a> and the first hints of Lubuntu, though not official yet.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/383" rel="nofollow">Unity announced</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-ubuntu-and-canonical-sites" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu and Canonical sites get a facelift</a>. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100601092326/http://www.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">See it here</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-canonical-services-help-businesses-get-ahead-with-ubuntu-server-and-ubuntu-desktop" rel="nofollow">Canonical announces Ubuntu Advantage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/introduction-to-unity-launcher" rel="nofollow">Unity shows lots of improvement</a>, but it&#39;s NOT A DOCK! <a href="https://vimeo.com/12818039" rel="nofollow">(See it in action)</a></li>
<li>Quitter talk - <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/quit" rel="nofollow">Blog post</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/shipit-comes-to-an-end" rel="nofollow">Shipit comes to an end</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes?action=show&redirect=OneiricOcelot%2FTechnicalOverview" rel="nofollow">Oneiric Ocelot, 11.10, is released.</a> and Lubuntu becomes official.</li>
<li>The HUD <a href="https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/939" rel="nofollow">is introduced.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop/UbuntuDesktop-12.04" rel="nofollow">Precise Pangolin, 12.04, is released.</a> Includes the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120125082058/https://people.canonical.com/%7Eories/HUD.m4v" rel="nofollow">Heads Up Display</a></li>
<li>Favorable reviews of Ubuntu as a whole, <a href="https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ubuntu-unity-making-the-desktop-seriously-efficient-again/" rel="nofollow">but also Unity</a></li>
<li>The traditional <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead" rel="nofollow">installer/live CD is dead</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-comes-to-the-phone-with-a-beautifully-distilled-interface-and-a-unique-full-pc-capability-when-docked" rel="nofollow"><em>Ubuntu comes to the phone</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Raring Ringtail, 13.04, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1195" rel="nofollow">focus on mobile</a> ahead of the 14.04 release</li>
<li><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-April/036993.html" rel="nofollow">Wubi has unresolved bugs</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu Kylin was born</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-edge" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Edge Announced.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-edge-thank-you" rel="nofollow">Edge fails</a>  to <a href="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge#/" rel="nofollow">meet its goal</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu Kylin <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-kylin-booms-in-china-with-over-1300000-downloads-in-less-than" rel="nofollow">hits 1.3m downloads</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu One&#39;s file services are <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services" rel="nofollow">being shut down</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-remix-inception/" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Mate Remix is announced</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlcTDz9ogug" rel="nofollow">Mark Shuttleworth announces &quot;Snappy Ubuntu&quot;</a></li>
<li>The BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu edition <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/bqs-new-aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu-edition-the-smartphone-that-puts-content-and-services-at-your-fingertips" rel="nofollow">is available</a></li>
<li>&quot;Snappy Ubuntu Core&quot; <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/snappy-ubuntu-core-on-raspberry-pi-2" rel="nofollow">on Raspberry Pi 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Vivid Vervet 15.04, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>Ubuntu MATE, <a href="https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/why-not-mubuntu/7279/5" rel="nofollow">nearly called Mubuntu</a>, gets its first &quot;official flavor&quot; release</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Snapcraft is announced and Snappy Apps <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/java-on-snappy" rel="nofollow">are being called Snaps now</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/zfs-licensing-and-linux" rel="nofollow">ZFS is coming to Ubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-app-developer-blog-announcing-new-snap-desktop-launchers" rel="nofollow">Acknowledgement</a> that Snaps don&#39;t quite look right a lot of times.</li>
<li>Mark Shuttleworth announces that <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu&#39;s Unity experiement has failed</a> and Gnome, not Unity8 will be the default session in Ubuntu 18.04. This also marks the end of Ubuntu Phone.</li>
<li>The next day, however, Marius Gripsgard of UBPorts stepped up <a href="https://fossbytes.com/unity-8-ubuntu-touch-ubports/" rel="nofollow">to take the reins.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Zesty Zappus, 17.04, is released.</a> and with it Ubuntu Budgie becomes an official flavor.</li>
<li>Ubuntu 16.04 <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/windows-10-loves-ubuntu-loveislove" rel="nofollow">shows up in the Windows Store</a>, for the Windows Subsystem for Linux.</li>
<li>Canonical <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-joins-gnome-foundation-advisory-board" rel="nofollow">joins</a> the Gnome Foundation Advisory Board ahead of the 18.04 release.</li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Bionic Beaver, 18.04, is released.</a> and Gnome is the default DE again.</li>
<li>Bryan Quigley, <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-May/018004.html" rel="nofollow">looks to drop 32-bit hardware support</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Cosmic Cuttlefish, 18.10, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>32-bit support is now in consideration to be removed, so upgrades from 18.04 are forbidden on 32-bit installs.</li>
<li><a href="https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released/" rel="nofollow">Lubuntu Switches to LXQt from LXDE</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/iot-graphics-mir-release-1-0" rel="nofollow">Mir 1.0 is released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Disco Dingo, 19.04, is released.</a> No more 32bit isos, long live 32bit.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-support-for-ubuntu-on-windows-subsystem-for-linux-2" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu for WSL2</a></li>
<li>i386 architecture, or rather 32-bit support, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190625190907/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2019-June/001261.html" rel="nofollow">will be dropped</a></li>
<li>i386 architecture <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts" rel="nofollow">will <strong><em>not</em></strong> be dropped</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Eoan Ermine 19.10, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>Experimental ZFS support on installation is available</li>
<li>Chromium is <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition" rel="nofollow">snap-only</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/UDHL3youjIY" rel="nofollow">Rocco Interviews Mark Shuttleworth on Linux Spotlight</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/2004-to-20-04-lts-ubuntu-in-popular-culture" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu in Pop Culture</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Focal Fossa, 20.04, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>Hardware enablement is on by default on the desktop.</li>
<li>The Snap Store tags in for Ubuntu Software</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GroovyGorilla/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Groovy Gorilla 20.10, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.10-Active-Directory" rel="nofollow">Active Directory support gets added to the installer</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Snaps <a href="https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/how-to-switch-your-snap-to-use-lzo-compression/21714" rel="nofollow">get faster</a></li>
<li>Another lurch forward for <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/snaps-and-themes-on-the-path-to-seamless-desktop-integration" rel="nofollow">snap theming.</a></li>
<li>The Ubuntu installer is <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/refreshing-the-ubuntu-desktop-installer/20659" rel="nofollow">being rewritten</a> in Flutter.</li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImpishIndri/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Impish Indri, 21.10, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>Firefox follows Chromium and <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/feature-freeze-exception-seeding-the-official-firefox-snap-in-ubuntu-desktop/24210" rel="nofollow">switches from a deb to a snap</a> - Only for main Ubuntu, not the flavors... yet.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Ubuntu gets their <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/a-new-look-for-the-circle-of-friends" rel="nofollow">shiny new logo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JammyJellyfish/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Jammy Jellyfish, 22.04, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-1" rel="nofollow">Better Active Directory integration</a></li>
<li>Flavors follow main Ubuntu and switch to the snap of Firefox.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>A big push to <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1" rel="nofollow">improve Firefox snap performance</a></li>
<li>The push to improve Firefox <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-ubuntu-core-22-is-now-available-optimised-for-iot-and-embedded-devices" rel="nofollow">continues</a></li>
</ul>

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<ol>
<li>The origins of the shirts</li>
<li>Ubuntu&#39;s history</li>
<li>And some thoughts on 22.04</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Video version</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/PCM-h_0Rqbc" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/PCM-h_0Rqbc</a></p>

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<p><strong>Audio Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 The Origin of the Shirts<br>
6:43 Lubuntu&#39;s in the Backporting Biz<br>
9:45 Ubuntu&#39;s History<br>
11:30 2004<br>
17:01 2005<br>
20:11 2006<br>
24:01 2007<br>
29:55 2008<br>
36:39 2009<br>
40:16 2010<br>
47:52 2011<br>
55:05 2012<br>
1:02:35 2013<br>
1:10:03 2014<br>
1:15:00 2015<br>
1:20:19 2016<br>
1:25:26 2017<br>
1:28:49 2018<br>
1:31:17 2019<br>
1:33:49 2020<br>
1:35:55 2021<br>
1:37:19 2022<br>
1:39:43 A Couple Thoughts on Ubuntu<br>
1:48:13 A New Distro, and a Thanks!<br>
1:50:26 Stinger</p>

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<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://southeastlinuxfest.org" rel="nofollow">Dan&#39;s Shirt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/build-a-raspberry-pi-desktop-with-an-ubuntu-heart" rel="nofollow">Leo&#39;s Shirt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lubuntu.me/jammy-backports-22-04-1-cft/" rel="nofollow">Lubuntu Backports are coming!</a></li>
</ul>

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<h3>Ubuntu The Saga</h3>

<h4>Some fast links:</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">Main Web Page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntuforums.org" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="https://askubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">AskUbuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Discourse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://launchpad.net" rel="nofollow">Launchpad</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours" rel="nofollow">Official Flavours</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">Wiki</a></li>
</ul>

<p>There are way too many links to get them all! </p>

<p>We gathered a great deal from the official <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Blog</a></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1186095&seqNum=3" rel="nofollow">The Inception</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1" rel="nofollow">Bug #1</a></li>
<li>October 20, 2004 Warty Warthog 4.10 was the first release.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20041210114946/http://shipit.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">Shipit came about the same time</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-5-04-released" rel="nofollow">Hoary Hedgehog, 5.04, is released</a> adding KDE and the Kubuntu flavor.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-ubuntu-foundation-announced" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Foundation is Created</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-4-10-end-of-support-cycle" rel="nofollow">Warty&#39;s 18 months are up</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-6-06-lts-released" rel="nofollow">Dapper Drake, 6.06, is released</a>. To date the only release that was late. Also, Xubuntu joined the family with the Xfce desktop.</li>
<li>Scott James Remnant dubbed it the <a href="https://netsplit.com/posts/happy-10th-birthday-ubuntu/" rel="nofollow">Late To Ship release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-launches-new-ubuntu-release-for-desktops-and-servers" rel="nofollow">Edgy Eft, 6.10 is released</a>, now with more <a href="https://upstart.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">Upstart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/launchpad-1-0-beta-released" rel="nofollow">Launch Pad 1.0 Beta released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/dell-to-offer-ubuntu" rel="nofollow">Dell offers Ubuntu 7.04</a> on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20070503024310/http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/05/01/13147.aspx" rel="nofollow">select devices in the US</a></li>
<li><a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+milestone/feisty-7.04-release" rel="nofollow">first release of Ubuntu Studio</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-7-10-desktop-edition-released" rel="nofollow">Gutsy Gibbon, 7.10 Desktop, is released</a>. Mythubuntu and Gobuntu appear here.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-launch-of-launchpad-personal-package-archive-service-for-developers" rel="nofollow">Launchpad is released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/system76-announces-servers-with-ubuntu-7-10-and-canonical-support-services" rel="nofollow">System76 joined the fray</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-general-availability-of-systems-management-and-monitoring-tool-landscape-launches-with-free-trial" rel="nofollow">Landscape, system management and monitoring tools for Ubuntu, launches</a></li>
<li>Hardy Heron, 8.04 LTS, released for <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-8-04-lts-desktop-edition-released" rel="nofollow">Desktop</a>. Wubi is also released.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110929075747/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gobuntu-devel/2008-June/000795.html" rel="nofollow">Gobuntu has been made redundant</a></li>
<li><a href="https://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Presents-Launchpad-2-0-91019.shtml" rel="nofollow">Launchpad 2.0 released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-source-code-for-launchpad" rel="nofollow">Canonical open sources Launchpad</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/HumanReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Karmic Koala, 9.10</a>, is relased and so is <a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone/" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu One</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/reasons-to-celebrate-29th-april-2010" rel="nofollow">Lucid Lynx, 10.04, released</a> and the first hints of Lubuntu, though not official yet.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/383" rel="nofollow">Unity announced</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-ubuntu-and-canonical-sites" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu and Canonical sites get a facelift</a>. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100601092326/http://www.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">See it here</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-canonical-services-help-businesses-get-ahead-with-ubuntu-server-and-ubuntu-desktop" rel="nofollow">Canonical announces Ubuntu Advantage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/introduction-to-unity-launcher" rel="nofollow">Unity shows lots of improvement</a>, but it&#39;s NOT A DOCK! <a href="https://vimeo.com/12818039" rel="nofollow">(See it in action)</a></li>
<li>Quitter talk - <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/quit" rel="nofollow">Blog post</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/shipit-comes-to-an-end" rel="nofollow">Shipit comes to an end</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes?action=show&redirect=OneiricOcelot%2FTechnicalOverview" rel="nofollow">Oneiric Ocelot, 11.10, is released.</a> and Lubuntu becomes official.</li>
<li>The HUD <a href="https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/939" rel="nofollow">is introduced.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop/UbuntuDesktop-12.04" rel="nofollow">Precise Pangolin, 12.04, is released.</a> Includes the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120125082058/https://people.canonical.com/%7Eories/HUD.m4v" rel="nofollow">Heads Up Display</a></li>
<li>Favorable reviews of Ubuntu as a whole, <a href="https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ubuntu-unity-making-the-desktop-seriously-efficient-again/" rel="nofollow">but also Unity</a></li>
<li>The traditional <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead" rel="nofollow">installer/live CD is dead</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-comes-to-the-phone-with-a-beautifully-distilled-interface-and-a-unique-full-pc-capability-when-docked" rel="nofollow"><em>Ubuntu comes to the phone</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Raring Ringtail, 13.04, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1195" rel="nofollow">focus on mobile</a> ahead of the 14.04 release</li>
<li><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-April/036993.html" rel="nofollow">Wubi has unresolved bugs</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu Kylin was born</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-edge" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Edge Announced.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-edge-thank-you" rel="nofollow">Edge fails</a>  to <a href="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge#/" rel="nofollow">meet its goal</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu Kylin <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-kylin-booms-in-china-with-over-1300000-downloads-in-less-than" rel="nofollow">hits 1.3m downloads</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu One&#39;s file services are <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services" rel="nofollow">being shut down</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-remix-inception/" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Mate Remix is announced</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlcTDz9ogug" rel="nofollow">Mark Shuttleworth announces &quot;Snappy Ubuntu&quot;</a></li>
<li>The BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu edition <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/bqs-new-aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu-edition-the-smartphone-that-puts-content-and-services-at-your-fingertips" rel="nofollow">is available</a></li>
<li>&quot;Snappy Ubuntu Core&quot; <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/snappy-ubuntu-core-on-raspberry-pi-2" rel="nofollow">on Raspberry Pi 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Vivid Vervet 15.04, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>Ubuntu MATE, <a href="https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/why-not-mubuntu/7279/5" rel="nofollow">nearly called Mubuntu</a>, gets its first &quot;official flavor&quot; release</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Snapcraft is announced and Snappy Apps <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/java-on-snappy" rel="nofollow">are being called Snaps now</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/zfs-licensing-and-linux" rel="nofollow">ZFS is coming to Ubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-app-developer-blog-announcing-new-snap-desktop-launchers" rel="nofollow">Acknowledgement</a> that Snaps don&#39;t quite look right a lot of times.</li>
<li>Mark Shuttleworth announces that <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu&#39;s Unity experiement has failed</a> and Gnome, not Unity8 will be the default session in Ubuntu 18.04. This also marks the end of Ubuntu Phone.</li>
<li>The next day, however, Marius Gripsgard of UBPorts stepped up <a href="https://fossbytes.com/unity-8-ubuntu-touch-ubports/" rel="nofollow">to take the reins.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Zesty Zappus, 17.04, is released.</a> and with it Ubuntu Budgie becomes an official flavor.</li>
<li>Ubuntu 16.04 <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/windows-10-loves-ubuntu-loveislove" rel="nofollow">shows up in the Windows Store</a>, for the Windows Subsystem for Linux.</li>
<li>Canonical <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-joins-gnome-foundation-advisory-board" rel="nofollow">joins</a> the Gnome Foundation Advisory Board ahead of the 18.04 release.</li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Bionic Beaver, 18.04, is released.</a> and Gnome is the default DE again.</li>
<li>Bryan Quigley, <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-May/018004.html" rel="nofollow">looks to drop 32-bit hardware support</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Cosmic Cuttlefish, 18.10, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>32-bit support is now in consideration to be removed, so upgrades from 18.04 are forbidden on 32-bit installs.</li>
<li><a href="https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released/" rel="nofollow">Lubuntu Switches to LXQt from LXDE</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/iot-graphics-mir-release-1-0" rel="nofollow">Mir 1.0 is released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Disco Dingo, 19.04, is released.</a> No more 32bit isos, long live 32bit.</li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-support-for-ubuntu-on-windows-subsystem-for-linux-2" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu for WSL2</a></li>
<li>i386 architecture, or rather 32-bit support, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190625190907/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2019-June/001261.html" rel="nofollow">will be dropped</a></li>
<li>i386 architecture <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts" rel="nofollow">will <strong><em>not</em></strong> be dropped</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Eoan Ermine 19.10, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>Experimental ZFS support on installation is available</li>
<li>Chromium is <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition" rel="nofollow">snap-only</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/UDHL3youjIY" rel="nofollow">Rocco Interviews Mark Shuttleworth on Linux Spotlight</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/2004-to-20-04-lts-ubuntu-in-popular-culture" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu in Pop Culture</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Focal Fossa, 20.04, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>Hardware enablement is on by default on the desktop.</li>
<li>The Snap Store tags in for Ubuntu Software</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GroovyGorilla/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Groovy Gorilla 20.10, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.10-Active-Directory" rel="nofollow">Active Directory support gets added to the installer</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Snaps <a href="https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/how-to-switch-your-snap-to-use-lzo-compression/21714" rel="nofollow">get faster</a></li>
<li>Another lurch forward for <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/snaps-and-themes-on-the-path-to-seamless-desktop-integration" rel="nofollow">snap theming.</a></li>
<li>The Ubuntu installer is <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/refreshing-the-ubuntu-desktop-installer/20659" rel="nofollow">being rewritten</a> in Flutter.</li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImpishIndri/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Impish Indri, 21.10, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li>Firefox follows Chromium and <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/feature-freeze-exception-seeding-the-official-firefox-snap-in-ubuntu-desktop/24210" rel="nofollow">switches from a deb to a snap</a> - Only for main Ubuntu, not the flavors... yet.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Ubuntu gets their <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/a-new-look-for-the-circle-of-friends" rel="nofollow">shiny new logo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JammyJellyfish/ReleaseNotes" rel="nofollow">Jammy Jellyfish, 22.04, is released.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-1" rel="nofollow">Better Active Directory integration</a></li>
<li>Flavors follow main Ubuntu and switch to the snap of Firefox.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>A big push to <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1" rel="nofollow">improve Firefox snap performance</a></li>
<li>The push to improve Firefox <a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-ubuntu-core-22-is-now-available-optimised-for-iot-and-embedded-devices" rel="nofollow">continues</a></li>
</ul>

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