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Episodes drop every other Monday.
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  <title>Episode 4:10: GNOME in the Home</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky. In this episode we go over some Mozilla news, the history of the Gnome desktop environment and our thoughts about how our exploration went.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Browser Watch Leftovers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The History of GNOME&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And Why Gnome is the best desktop&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And a little holiday break&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Timestamps&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:29 Riding the Lightning&lt;br&gt;
16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME&lt;br&gt;
23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x&lt;br&gt;
25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x&lt;br&gt;
33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x&lt;br&gt;
41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond&lt;br&gt;
48:01 How'd GNOME Go?&lt;br&gt;
1:15:39 Next Time: Topics &amp;amp; KDE&lt;br&gt;
1:26:18 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Watch the Video!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Mini Browser Watch&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;October 30, Mozilla &lt;a href="https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2023/10/30/introducing-mozillas-firefox-nightly-deb-packages-for-debian-based-linux-distributions/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;announces the nightly Deb packages&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;November 30, Mozilla &lt;a href="https://hacks.mozilla.org/2023/11/firefox-developer-edition-and-beta-try-out-mozillas-deb-package/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;announces the developer and beta Deb packages&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;This program was made possible by:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️&lt;a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️&lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And by contributions to your L-U-S station by &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patrons&lt;/a&gt; like you 😍&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;The History of Gnome&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The email in 1997 to &lt;a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/1997-August/msg00123.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;start it all&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1998-March/msg00002.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Development snapshot 0.13 announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/1999/03/03/gnome-1-0-released/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME 1.0 release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GUADEC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000407082920/http://www.gnome.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME OG website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000621134911/http://www.gnome.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME revamped website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HP's HP/UX and Sun's Solaris announce they &lt;a href="https://www.computerworld.com/article/2596398/unix-vendors-adopt-gnome-desktop.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;would be using GNOME&lt;/a&gt; as their default desktops.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME Foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2002/06/26/gnome-2-0-released-desktop-environment-boasts-simpler-user-interface-and-a-host-of-powerful-developer-tools/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME 2.0 release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2004-October/000003.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00055.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME no longer part of GNU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GNOME was &lt;a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-April/msg00050.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;no longer an acronym.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2011/04/06/gnome-3-0-has-arrived/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gnome 3.0 arrives&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linus Torvalds &lt;a href="https://digitizor.com/linus-torvalds-ditches-gnome-for-xfce/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;noted&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but &lt;a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-switches-back-to-gnome-3-x-desktop/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;noted that&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... &lt;a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/s/groupon-gnome-legal-war-almost-080504914.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Again, the &lt;a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/leave-gnome-alone-this-patent-troll-is-asking-for-trouble/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;target of litigation&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rothschild Patent Imaging was &lt;a href="https://blog.opensource.org/gnome-patent-troll-stripped-of-patent-rights/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;stripped of its patent rights&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://forty.gnome.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gnome 40&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2021/03/24/gnome-40-release/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gnome 40 announcement&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/09/20/introducing-gnome-45/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gnome 45 announcement&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Original &lt;a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3139" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME introduction&lt;/a&gt; (~99)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="http://turingmachine.org/files/papers/dmg_wosse2002add.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Evolution of the GNOME Project&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Using &lt;a href="https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=131217&amp;amp;seqNum=12" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GNOME gmc&lt;/a&gt; (GNOME Midnight Commander)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"A Brief History of GNOME" &lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/jrb/files/2017/07/A-Brief-History-of-GNOME-1.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Presentation Notes&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"A Brief History of GNOME" &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUmptI6O2w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Video&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GNOME 2.0 - 40 &lt;a href="https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Release Notes&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;More Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt; OR jump on over to the &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;open forum on Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗞️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemmy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Next Time&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the &lt;a href="https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;KDE Plasma Desktop Environment&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We are taking a mini-holiday 🎄 pause, we will see you in the new year. ☃️ We wish you a happy holiday season! ❄️&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GrouchyM&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A.J.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hausken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Saigoneer&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tobias &lt;/li&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Browser Watch Leftovers</li>
<li>The History of GNOME</li>
<li>And Why Gnome is the best desktop</li>
<li>And a little holiday break</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:29 Riding the Lightning<br>
16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME<br>
23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x<br>
25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x<br>
33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x<br>
41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond<br>
48:01 How&#39;d GNOME Go?<br>
1:15:39 Next Time: Topics &amp; KDE<br>
1:26:18 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>Watch the Video!</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro</a></p>

<h2>Mini Browser Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li>October 30, Mozilla <a href="https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2023/10/30/introducing-mozillas-firefox-nightly-deb-packages-for-debian-based-linux-distributions/" rel="nofollow">announces the nightly Deb packages</a></li>
<li>November 30, Mozilla <a href="https://hacks.mozilla.org/2023/11/firefox-developer-edition-and-beta-try-out-mozillas-deb-package/" rel="nofollow">announces the developer and beta Deb packages</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of Gnome</h2>

<ul>
<li>The email in 1997 to <a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/1997-August/msg00123.html" rel="nofollow">start it all</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1998-March/msg00002.html" rel="nofollow">Development snapshot 0.13 announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/1999/03/03/gnome-1-0-released/" rel="nofollow">GNOME 1.0 release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC" rel="nofollow">GUADEC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000407082920/http://www.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">GNOME OG website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000621134911/http://www.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">GNOME revamped website</a></li>
<li>HP&#39;s HP/UX and Sun&#39;s Solaris announce they <a href="https://www.computerworld.com/article/2596398/unix-vendors-adopt-gnome-desktop.html" rel="nofollow">would be using GNOME</a> as their default desktops.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation" rel="nofollow">GNOME Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2002/06/26/gnome-2-0-released-desktop-environment-boasts-simpler-user-interface-and-a-host-of-powerful-developer-tools/" rel="nofollow">GNOME 2.0 release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2004-October/000003.html" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00055.html" rel="nofollow">GNOME no longer part of GNU</a></li>
<li>GNOME was <a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-April/msg00050.html" rel="nofollow">no longer an acronym.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2011/04/06/gnome-3-0-has-arrived/" rel="nofollow">Gnome 3.0 arrives</a></li>
<li>Linus Torvalds <a href="https://digitizor.com/linus-torvalds-ditches-gnome-for-xfce/" rel="nofollow">noted</a></li>
<li>Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-switches-back-to-gnome-3-x-desktop/" rel="nofollow">noted that</a></li>
<li>Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/s/groupon-gnome-legal-war-almost-080504914.html" rel="nofollow">GNOME</a>.</li>
<li>Again, the <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/leave-gnome-alone-this-patent-troll-is-asking-for-trouble/" rel="nofollow">target of litigation</a></li>
<li>Rothschild Patent Imaging was <a href="https://blog.opensource.org/gnome-patent-troll-stripped-of-patent-rights/" rel="nofollow">stripped of its patent rights</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forty.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">Gnome 40</a></li>
<li>The <a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2021/03/24/gnome-40-release/" rel="nofollow">Gnome 40 announcement</a></li>
<li>The <a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/09/20/introducing-gnome-45/" rel="nofollow">Gnome 45 announcement</a></li>
<li>Original <a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3139" rel="nofollow">GNOME introduction</a> (~99)</li>
<li>The <a href="http://turingmachine.org/files/papers/dmg_wosse2002add.pdf" rel="nofollow">Evolution of the GNOME Project</a></li>
<li>Using <a href="https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=131217&seqNum=12" rel="nofollow">GNOME gmc</a> (GNOME Midnight Commander)</li>
<li>&quot;A Brief History of GNOME&quot; <a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/jrb/files/2017/07/A-Brief-History-of-GNOME-1.pdf" rel="nofollow">Presentation Notes</a></li>
<li>&quot;A Brief History of GNOME&quot; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUmptI6O2w" rel="nofollow">Video</a></li>
<li>GNOME 2.0 - 40 <a href="https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/" rel="nofollow">Release Notes</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy.</p>

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<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the <a href="https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/" rel="nofollow">KDE Plasma Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>We are taking a mini-holiday 🎄 pause, we will see you in the new year. ☃️ We wish you a happy holiday season! ❄️</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<h2>Producer</h2>

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<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

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<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The Browser Watch Leftovers</li>
<li>The History of GNOME</li>
<li>And Why Gnome is the best desktop</li>
<li>And a little holiday break</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:29 Riding the Lightning<br>
16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME<br>
23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x<br>
25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x<br>
33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x<br>
41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond<br>
48:01 How&#39;d GNOME Go?<br>
1:15:39 Next Time: Topics &amp; KDE<br>
1:26:18 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>Watch the Video!</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro</a></p>

<h2>Mini Browser Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li>October 30, Mozilla <a href="https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2023/10/30/introducing-mozillas-firefox-nightly-deb-packages-for-debian-based-linux-distributions/" rel="nofollow">announces the nightly Deb packages</a></li>
<li>November 30, Mozilla <a href="https://hacks.mozilla.org/2023/11/firefox-developer-edition-and-beta-try-out-mozillas-deb-package/" rel="nofollow">announces the developer and beta Deb packages</a></li>
</ul>

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<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
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<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>The History of Gnome</h2>

<ul>
<li>The email in 1997 to <a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/1997-August/msg00123.html" rel="nofollow">start it all</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1998-March/msg00002.html" rel="nofollow">Development snapshot 0.13 announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/1999/03/03/gnome-1-0-released/" rel="nofollow">GNOME 1.0 release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC" rel="nofollow">GUADEC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000407082920/http://www.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">GNOME OG website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000621134911/http://www.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">GNOME revamped website</a></li>
<li>HP&#39;s HP/UX and Sun&#39;s Solaris announce they <a href="https://www.computerworld.com/article/2596398/unix-vendors-adopt-gnome-desktop.html" rel="nofollow">would be using GNOME</a> as their default desktops.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation" rel="nofollow">GNOME Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2002/06/26/gnome-2-0-released-desktop-environment-boasts-simpler-user-interface-and-a-host-of-powerful-developer-tools/" rel="nofollow">GNOME 2.0 release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2004-October/000003.html" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00055.html" rel="nofollow">GNOME no longer part of GNU</a></li>
<li>GNOME was <a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-April/msg00050.html" rel="nofollow">no longer an acronym.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2011/04/06/gnome-3-0-has-arrived/" rel="nofollow">Gnome 3.0 arrives</a></li>
<li>Linus Torvalds <a href="https://digitizor.com/linus-torvalds-ditches-gnome-for-xfce/" rel="nofollow">noted</a></li>
<li>Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-switches-back-to-gnome-3-x-desktop/" rel="nofollow">noted that</a></li>
<li>Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/s/groupon-gnome-legal-war-almost-080504914.html" rel="nofollow">GNOME</a>.</li>
<li>Again, the <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/leave-gnome-alone-this-patent-troll-is-asking-for-trouble/" rel="nofollow">target of litigation</a></li>
<li>Rothschild Patent Imaging was <a href="https://blog.opensource.org/gnome-patent-troll-stripped-of-patent-rights/" rel="nofollow">stripped of its patent rights</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forty.gnome.org/" rel="nofollow">Gnome 40</a></li>
<li>The <a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2021/03/24/gnome-40-release/" rel="nofollow">Gnome 40 announcement</a></li>
<li>The <a href="https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/09/20/introducing-gnome-45/" rel="nofollow">Gnome 45 announcement</a></li>
<li>Original <a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3139" rel="nofollow">GNOME introduction</a> (~99)</li>
<li>The <a href="http://turingmachine.org/files/papers/dmg_wosse2002add.pdf" rel="nofollow">Evolution of the GNOME Project</a></li>
<li>Using <a href="https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=131217&seqNum=12" rel="nofollow">GNOME gmc</a> (GNOME Midnight Commander)</li>
<li>&quot;A Brief History of GNOME&quot; <a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/jrb/files/2017/07/A-Brief-History-of-GNOME-1.pdf" rel="nofollow">Presentation Notes</a></li>
<li>&quot;A Brief History of GNOME&quot; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUmptI6O2w" rel="nofollow">Video</a></li>
<li>GNOME 2.0 - 40 <a href="https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/" rel="nofollow">Release Notes</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

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</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy.</p>

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<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
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<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the <a href="https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/" rel="nofollow">KDE Plasma Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>We are taking a mini-holiday 🎄 pause, we will see you in the new year. ☃️ We wish you a happy holiday season! ❄️</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<h2>Producer</h2>

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<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
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<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
<li>Tobias</li>
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  <title>Episode 4:05: The Time to Switch Is Now!</title>
  <link>https://www.linuxuserspace.show/405</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky. In this episode we give our hot take on Wayland, give our hot take on the browser news, focus on some feedback, recommend a great community focus and touch base on our Gentoo experiences.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;You are so far aWAY from me&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We are watching out for the browsers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A little reverb focus&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Community and GenTOO&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Timestamps&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:40 The Wayland Soapbox&lt;br&gt;
20:33 Browser Watch&lt;br&gt;
46:27 Reverb Focus&lt;br&gt;
1:12:02 Community Focus&lt;br&gt;
1:14:46 Gentoo Focus&lt;br&gt;
1:29:30 Next Time: CDE History!&lt;br&gt;
1:31:50 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Watch the Video!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Social Soapbox - Wayland&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nate Graham's blog post - &lt;a href="https://pointieststick.com/2023/09/17/so-lets-talk-about-this-wayland-thing/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;So let's talk about this Wayland thing&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Wayland Protocol&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Wayland from the Arch Wiki&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Wayland from the Gentoo Wiki&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;This program was made possible by:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️&lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;And by contributions to your L-U-S station by &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patrons&lt;/a&gt; like you 😍&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Browser Watch&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldis-open-letter-microsoft-dma-compliance/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Vivaldi’s Open Letter — Microsoft DMA Compliance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/browser-choice-screen-study/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Deciding for ourselves: 98% of people want a browser choice screen, Mozilla study finds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;It's time to ditch Chrome and &lt;a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/118.0/releasenotes/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;fall in love with Firefox&lt;/a&gt; again.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Reverb Focus&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Stewie - Why GRUB?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gentoo Wiki - GRUB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GRUB2 Gentoo Quick Start&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Dai - Telemetry&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/fedora_privacy_telemetry/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Fedora considers adding telemetry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Fedora Wiki on the proposal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2023/07/05/endless-oss-privacy-preserving-metrics-system/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Endless OS's optional telemetry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Ganome - Gentoo&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Switching to the Gnome &lt;a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Profile&lt;/a&gt; doesn't &lt;a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/Guide#Installation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;install Gnome&lt;/a&gt; but it is an important step.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;code&gt;emerge --ask gnome-base/gnome&lt;/code&gt; is what installs the desktop.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Rene&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wifisheep.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Wi-Fi Sheep&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.riscosdev.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RISC OS Developments Ltd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.riscosopen.org/content/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RISC OS Open&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.riscos.info/index.php/RISC_OS" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RISC OS Info&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=risc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RISC OS at Distrowatch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://p9f.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Plan9 Foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/@leepspvideo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;leepsvideo YouTube channel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://easyos.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;EasyOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/h2&gt;

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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Community Focus - Jorge Castro&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/@JorgeCastro" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jorge Castro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://universal-blue.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Universal Blue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/castrojo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jorge at GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Gentoo Focus&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Last time on &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LUS Streaming Live&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FYI we do these live on &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt; the day after an episode is released.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MAKEOPTS" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gentoo MAKEOPTS jobs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Next Time&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We plan to explore and provide the history of &lt;a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CDE or Common Desktop Environment&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A.J.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hausken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>LUS, Linux User Space, Leo Chavez, Dan Simmons, Wayland, Gentoo, Browsers, Firefox, Vivaldi, Chromium, Gnome, ublue, Jorge Castro, security</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>You are so far aWAY from me</li>
<li>We are watching out for the browsers</li>
<li>A little reverb focus</li>
<li>Community and GenTOO</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:40 The Wayland Soapbox<br>
20:33 Browser Watch<br>
46:27 Reverb Focus<br>
1:12:02 Community Focus<br>
1:14:46 Gentoo Focus<br>
1:29:30 Next Time: CDE History!<br>
1:31:50 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k" rel="nofollow"><strong>Watch the Video!</strong></a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k</a></p>

<h2>Social Soapbox - Wayland</h2>

<ul>
<li>Nate Graham&#39;s blog post - <a href="https://pointieststick.com/2023/09/17/so-lets-talk-about-this-wayland-thing/" rel="nofollow">So let&#39;s talk about this Wayland thing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/" rel="nofollow">The Wayland Protocol</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland" rel="nofollow">Wayland from the Arch Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland" rel="nofollow">Wayland from the Gentoo Wiki</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Browser Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldis-open-letter-microsoft-dma-compliance/" rel="nofollow">Vivaldi’s Open Letter — Microsoft DMA Compliance</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/browser-choice-screen-study/" rel="nofollow">Deciding for ourselves: 98% of people want a browser choice screen, Mozilla study finds</a></li>
<li>It&#39;s time to ditch Chrome and <a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/118.0/releasenotes/" rel="nofollow">fall in love with Firefox</a> again.</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Reverb Focus</h2>

<h3>Stewie - Why GRUB?</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Wiki - GRUB</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start" rel="nofollow">GRUB2 Gentoo Quick Start</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Dai - Telemetry</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/fedora_privacy_telemetry/" rel="nofollow">Fedora considers adding telemetry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry" rel="nofollow">Fedora Wiki on the proposal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2023/07/05/endless-oss-privacy-preserving-metrics-system/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS&#39;s optional telemetry</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Ganome - Gentoo</h3>

<ul>
<li>Switching to the Gnome <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage)" rel="nofollow">Profile</a> doesn&#39;t <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/Guide#Installation" rel="nofollow">install Gnome</a> but it is an important step.</li>
<li><code>emerge --ask gnome-base/gnome</code> is what installs the desktop.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Rene</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://wifisheep.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Wi-Fi Sheep</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.riscosdev.com/" rel="nofollow">RISC OS Developments Ltd</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.riscosopen.org/content/" rel="nofollow">RISC OS Open</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.riscos.info/index.php/RISC_OS" rel="nofollow">RISC OS Info</a></li>
<li><a href="https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=risc" rel="nofollow">RISC OS at Distrowatch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://p9f.org/" rel="nofollow">Plan9 Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@leepspvideo" rel="nofollow">leepsvideo YouTube channel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://easyos.org/" rel="nofollow">EasyOS</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Community Focus - Jorge Castro</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@JorgeCastro" rel="nofollow">Jorge Castro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://universal-blue.org/" rel="nofollow">Universal Blue</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/castrojo" rel="nofollow">Jorge at GitHub</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Gentoo Focus</h2>

<ul>
<li>Last time on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1" rel="nofollow">LUS Streaming Live</a>

<ul>
<li>FYI we do these live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode is released.</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MAKEOPTS" rel="nofollow">Gentoo MAKEOPTS jobs</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to explore and provide the history of <a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/" rel="nofollow">CDE or Common Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>You are so far aWAY from me</li>
<li>We are watching out for the browsers</li>
<li>A little reverb focus</li>
<li>Community and GenTOO</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:40 The Wayland Soapbox<br>
20:33 Browser Watch<br>
46:27 Reverb Focus<br>
1:12:02 Community Focus<br>
1:14:46 Gentoo Focus<br>
1:29:30 Next Time: CDE History!<br>
1:31:50 Stinger</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k" rel="nofollow"><strong>Watch the Video!</strong></a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k</a></p>

<h2>Social Soapbox - Wayland</h2>

<ul>
<li>Nate Graham&#39;s blog post - <a href="https://pointieststick.com/2023/09/17/so-lets-talk-about-this-wayland-thing/" rel="nofollow">So let&#39;s talk about this Wayland thing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/" rel="nofollow">The Wayland Protocol</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland" rel="nofollow">Wayland from the Arch Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland" rel="nofollow">Wayland from the Gentoo Wiki</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Browser Watch</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldis-open-letter-microsoft-dma-compliance/" rel="nofollow">Vivaldi’s Open Letter — Microsoft DMA Compliance</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/browser-choice-screen-study/" rel="nofollow">Deciding for ourselves: 98% of people want a browser choice screen, Mozilla study finds</a></li>
<li>It&#39;s time to ditch Chrome and <a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/118.0/releasenotes/" rel="nofollow">fall in love with Firefox</a> again.</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Reverb Focus</h2>

<h3>Stewie - Why GRUB?</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB" rel="nofollow">Gentoo Wiki - GRUB</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start" rel="nofollow">GRUB2 Gentoo Quick Start</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Dai - Telemetry</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/fedora_privacy_telemetry/" rel="nofollow">Fedora considers adding telemetry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry" rel="nofollow">Fedora Wiki on the proposal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2023/07/05/endless-oss-privacy-preserving-metrics-system/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS&#39;s optional telemetry</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Ganome - Gentoo</h3>

<ul>
<li>Switching to the Gnome <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage)" rel="nofollow">Profile</a> doesn&#39;t <a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/Guide#Installation" rel="nofollow">install Gnome</a> but it is an important step.</li>
<li><code>emerge --ask gnome-base/gnome</code> is what installs the desktop.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Rene</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://wifisheep.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Wi-Fi Sheep</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.riscosdev.com/" rel="nofollow">RISC OS Developments Ltd</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.riscosopen.org/content/" rel="nofollow">RISC OS Open</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.riscos.info/index.php/RISC_OS" rel="nofollow">RISC OS Info</a></li>
<li><a href="https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=risc" rel="nofollow">RISC OS at Distrowatch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://p9f.org/" rel="nofollow">Plan9 Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@leepspvideo" rel="nofollow">leepsvideo YouTube channel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://easyos.org/" rel="nofollow">EasyOS</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Community Focus - Jorge Castro</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@JorgeCastro" rel="nofollow">Jorge Castro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://universal-blue.org/" rel="nofollow">Universal Blue</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/castrojo" rel="nofollow">Jorge at GitHub</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Gentoo Focus</h2>

<ul>
<li>Last time on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1" rel="nofollow">LUS Streaming Live</a>

<ul>
<li>FYI we do these live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode is released.</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MAKEOPTS" rel="nofollow">Gentoo MAKEOPTS jobs</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to explore and provide the history of <a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/" rel="nofollow">CDE or Common Desktop Environment</a>.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Nick</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>Episode 3:18: The Neverending Story</title>
  <link>https://www.linuxuserspace.show/318</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2023 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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  <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Linux User Space</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>The history of Linux distros and apps. Maybe some current events, if you're lucky.
In this episode we cover the history of Endless OS and are also joined by a guest. We banter about scrolling in Chromium based browsers and virtualization environments.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:20:57</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Never Ending History&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A Cassidy James Experience&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And we go berry picking&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Timestamps&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:30 Vivaldi 5.7... Again&lt;br&gt;
3:20 Itty Bitty Server Things&lt;br&gt;
18:44 EndlessOS History, 2010-2012&lt;br&gt;
21:51 2013-2015&lt;br&gt;
25:36 2016-2018&lt;br&gt;
29:25 2019-2021&lt;br&gt;
32:57 2022-2023&lt;br&gt;
36:08 (A Short) How'd It Go?&lt;br&gt;
42:33 A Cassidy James Experience&lt;br&gt;
1:15:31 Next Time: Topics and Feedback&lt;br&gt;
1:19:53 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;See&lt;/strong&gt; this episode on &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Banter&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-7-on-desktop/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Vivaldi 5.7&lt;/a&gt; fixes Leo's scrolling &lt;a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;woes.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan installs &lt;a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Proxmox VE&lt;/a&gt; on a couple of &lt;a href="https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04816235" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;HP mini pcs.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Give us a sub on &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILvids&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ You can watch us live on &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt; the day after an episode drops.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;😍 If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;EndlessOS the History&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180519033528/https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=241000702" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Endless Mobile Inc.'s was founded&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Computers started &lt;a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/posts/1276655" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;shipping in&lt;/a&gt; late June 2015.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Endless Mini&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;August 2016 Endless 3.0 was released as was the very First Linux distro to adopt &lt;a href="https://flatpak.org/about" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Flatpak&lt;/a&gt; for apps and have it configured for use out of the box.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;October 2016 Netflix and Flash were &lt;a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/attention-new-users-flash-and-netflix-temporarily-broken/327" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;broken&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jan 4, 2017 Endless &lt;a href="https://venturebeat.com/business/endless-expands-into-the-u-s-with-launch-of-129-mission-mini-and-249-mission-one-computers/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mission One and Mini&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.cnet.com/pictures/mission-mini/null/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;released&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mission Mini Review&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mission-one-review/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mission One Review&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;March 2017 &lt;a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-version-3-1-3/1835" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;3.1.3 Released&lt;/a&gt; and now &lt;a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/iso-images-available-for-endless-os/1840" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ISOs are now available&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;November 1 2018, 3.5 Released, but was &lt;a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-3-5-1/8252" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;then quickly withdrawn&lt;/a&gt;. 3.5.1 was quickly delivered on November 16th addressing the issue.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;April 1, 2020 Endless drops its &lt;a href="https://www.endlessos.org/post/launching-endless-os-foundation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;for-profit status and becomes a not-for-profit&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;November 2020 Hack and friends &lt;a href="https://www.hack-computer.com/post/update-hack-is-now-fully-open-source" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;go fully open source&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;June 2021 &lt;a href="https://www.endlessos.org/endless-laptop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Endless Laptop&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;January 2023 &lt;a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;5.0 Released&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/4-0-14" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;4.0.14&lt;/a&gt; delivers the ability to upgrade to 5.0 which was previously not possible.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;March 7, 2023 &lt;a href="https://discourse.flathub.org/t/flathub-in-2023/3808" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Endless announces backing for Flathub&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Huge thanks to Cassidy James Blaede for taking the time to join us! Cassidy's web page is &lt;a href="https://cassidyjames.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Endless OS links&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://endlessos.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Main web site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.endlessos.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Forum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Wiki&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.endlessos.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Endless OS Foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/description" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Early History&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/what-about-a-release-history/5277/3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Release History&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170223110116/https://endlessos.com/our-computers/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Early PC's&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201117023525/https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop/tags?after=Release_2.0.1-rc1_debian" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;All Old Github Tagged versions ~2.0.0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;More Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📰 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;⌨️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📲 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;✉️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📽️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🐘 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📜 Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;📺️ Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TILVids&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Next Time&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is &lt;a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Raspberry Pi OS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Super User&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bjørnar&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Musical Coder&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Paul&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>LUS, Linux User Space, Leo Chavez, Dan Simmons, Endless OS, Flatpak, Flathub, Gnome, Cassidy James Blaede, immutable, education</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>The Never Ending History</li>
<li>A Cassidy James Experience</li>
<li>And we go berry picking</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 Vivaldi 5.7... Again<br>
3:20 Itty Bitty Server Things<br>
18:44 EndlessOS History, 2010-2012<br>
21:51 2013-2015<br>
25:36 2016-2018<br>
29:25 2019-2021<br>
32:57 2022-2023<br>
36:08 (A Short) How&#39;d It Go?<br>
42:33 A Cassidy James Experience<br>
1:15:31 Next Time: Topics and Feedback<br>
1:19:53 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>See</strong> this episode on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-7-on-desktop/" rel="nofollow">Vivaldi 5.7</a> fixes Leo&#39;s scrolling <a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27" rel="nofollow">woes.</a></li>
<li>Dan installs <a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" rel="nofollow">Proxmox VE</a> on a couple of <a href="https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04816235" rel="nofollow">HP mini pcs.</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>📺️ Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a>.</li>
<li>📽️ You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>😍 If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>EndlessOS the History</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180519033528/https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=241000702" rel="nofollow">Endless Mobile Inc.&#39;s was founded</a>.</li>
<li>Computers started <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/posts/1276655" rel="nofollow">shipping in</a> late June 2015.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" rel="nofollow">The Endless Mini</a>.</li>
<li>August 2016 Endless 3.0 was released as was the very First Linux distro to adopt <a href="https://flatpak.org/about" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a> for apps and have it configured for use out of the box.</li>
<li>October 2016 Netflix and Flash were <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/attention-new-users-flash-and-netflix-temporarily-broken/327" rel="nofollow">broken</a>.</li>
<li>Jan 4, 2017 Endless <a href="https://venturebeat.com/business/endless-expands-into-the-u-s-with-launch-of-129-mission-mini-and-249-mission-one-computers/" rel="nofollow">Mission One and Mini</a> <a href="https://www.cnet.com/pictures/mission-mini/null/" rel="nofollow">released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" rel="nofollow">Mission Mini Review</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mission-one-review/" rel="nofollow">Mission One Review</a></li>
<li>March 2017 <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-version-3-1-3/1835" rel="nofollow">3.1.3 Released</a> and now <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/iso-images-available-for-endless-os/1840" rel="nofollow">ISOs are now available</a>.</li>
<li>November 1 2018, 3.5 Released, but was <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-3-5-1/8252" rel="nofollow">then quickly withdrawn</a>. 3.5.1 was quickly delivered on November 16th addressing the issue.</li>
<li>April 1, 2020 Endless drops its <a href="https://www.endlessos.org/post/launching-endless-os-foundation" rel="nofollow">for-profit status and becomes a not-for-profit</a>.</li>
<li>November 2020 Hack and friends <a href="https://www.hack-computer.com/post/update-hack-is-now-fully-open-source" rel="nofollow">go fully open source</a>!</li>
<li>June 2021 <a href="https://www.endlessos.org/endless-laptop" rel="nofollow">The Endless Laptop</a>.</li>
<li>January 2023 <a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/5" rel="nofollow">5.0 Released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/4-0-14" rel="nofollow">4.0.14</a> delivers the ability to upgrade to 5.0 which was previously not possible.</li>
<li>March 7, 2023 <a href="https://discourse.flathub.org/t/flathub-in-2023/3808" rel="nofollow">Endless announces backing for Flathub</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Huge thanks to Cassidy James Blaede for taking the time to join us! Cassidy&#39;s web page is <a href="https://cassidyjames.com" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong></p>

<h3>Endless OS links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://endlessos.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Main web site</a></li>
<li><a href="https://community.endlessos.com/" rel="nofollow">The Forum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os" rel="nofollow">The Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.endlessos.org/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/description" rel="nofollow">The Early History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/what-about-a-release-history/5277/3" rel="nofollow">The Release History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170223110116/https://endlessos.com/our-computers/" rel="nofollow">The Early PC&#39;s</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201117023525/https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop/tags?after=Release_2.0.1-rc1_debian" rel="nofollow">All Old Github Tagged versions ~2.0.0</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is <a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/" rel="nofollow">Raspberry Pi OS</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>Johnny</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
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<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>The Never Ending History</li>
<li>A Cassidy James Experience</li>
<li>And we go berry picking</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 Vivaldi 5.7... Again<br>
3:20 Itty Bitty Server Things<br>
18:44 EndlessOS History, 2010-2012<br>
21:51 2013-2015<br>
25:36 2016-2018<br>
29:25 2019-2021<br>
32:57 2022-2023<br>
36:08 (A Short) How&#39;d It Go?<br>
42:33 A Cassidy James Experience<br>
1:15:31 Next Time: Topics and Feedback<br>
1:19:53 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>See</strong> this episode on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-7-on-desktop/" rel="nofollow">Vivaldi 5.7</a> fixes Leo&#39;s scrolling <a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27" rel="nofollow">woes.</a></li>
<li>Dan installs <a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" rel="nofollow">Proxmox VE</a> on a couple of <a href="https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04816235" rel="nofollow">HP mini pcs.</a></li>
</ul>

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<h2>EndlessOS the History</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180519033528/https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=241000702" rel="nofollow">Endless Mobile Inc.&#39;s was founded</a>.</li>
<li>Computers started <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/posts/1276655" rel="nofollow">shipping in</a> late June 2015.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" rel="nofollow">The Endless Mini</a>.</li>
<li>August 2016 Endless 3.0 was released as was the very First Linux distro to adopt <a href="https://flatpak.org/about" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a> for apps and have it configured for use out of the box.</li>
<li>October 2016 Netflix and Flash were <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/attention-new-users-flash-and-netflix-temporarily-broken/327" rel="nofollow">broken</a>.</li>
<li>Jan 4, 2017 Endless <a href="https://venturebeat.com/business/endless-expands-into-the-u-s-with-launch-of-129-mission-mini-and-249-mission-one-computers/" rel="nofollow">Mission One and Mini</a> <a href="https://www.cnet.com/pictures/mission-mini/null/" rel="nofollow">released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/" rel="nofollow">Mission Mini Review</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mission-one-review/" rel="nofollow">Mission One Review</a></li>
<li>March 2017 <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-version-3-1-3/1835" rel="nofollow">3.1.3 Released</a> and now <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/iso-images-available-for-endless-os/1840" rel="nofollow">ISOs are now available</a>.</li>
<li>November 1 2018, 3.5 Released, but was <a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-3-5-1/8252" rel="nofollow">then quickly withdrawn</a>. 3.5.1 was quickly delivered on November 16th addressing the issue.</li>
<li>April 1, 2020 Endless drops its <a href="https://www.endlessos.org/post/launching-endless-os-foundation" rel="nofollow">for-profit status and becomes a not-for-profit</a>.</li>
<li>November 2020 Hack and friends <a href="https://www.hack-computer.com/post/update-hack-is-now-fully-open-source" rel="nofollow">go fully open source</a>!</li>
<li>June 2021 <a href="https://www.endlessos.org/endless-laptop" rel="nofollow">The Endless Laptop</a>.</li>
<li>January 2023 <a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/5" rel="nofollow">5.0 Released</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/4-0-14" rel="nofollow">4.0.14</a> delivers the ability to upgrade to 5.0 which was previously not possible.</li>
<li>March 7, 2023 <a href="https://discourse.flathub.org/t/flathub-in-2023/3808" rel="nofollow">Endless announces backing for Flathub</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Huge thanks to Cassidy James Blaede for taking the time to join us! Cassidy&#39;s web page is <a href="https://cassidyjames.com" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong></p>

<h3>Endless OS links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://endlessos.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Main web site</a></li>
<li><a href="https://community.endlessos.com/" rel="nofollow">The Forum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os" rel="nofollow">The Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.endlessos.org/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/description" rel="nofollow">The Early History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://community.endlessos.com/t/what-about-a-release-history/5277/3" rel="nofollow">The Release History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170223110116/https://endlessos.com/our-computers/" rel="nofollow">The Early PC&#39;s</a></li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201117023525/https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop/tags?after=Release_2.0.1-rc1_debian" rel="nofollow">All Old Github Tagged versions ~2.0.0</a></li>
</ul>

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<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

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<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is <a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/" rel="nofollow">Raspberry Pi OS</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

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<h2>Producer</h2>

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<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

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<li>Tim</li>
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<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
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<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
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  <title>Episode 3:05: How to Exit Vim</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vim stories&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The quick history of &lt;code&gt;vi&lt;/code&gt; and &lt;code&gt;vim&lt;/code&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A snappy Mozilla watch&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gnome can toggle too&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We take a sip of Cider&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:48 vim Stories&lt;br&gt;
12:05 vi &amp;amp; vim History&lt;br&gt;
22:13 A Few More Thoughts on vim&lt;br&gt;
39:28 A Snappy Mozilla Watch&lt;br&gt;
42:22 New Features to Gnome&lt;br&gt;
52:19 Feedback&lt;br&gt;
58:23 Community Focus: DistroTube&lt;br&gt;
1:00:32 App Focus: Cider&lt;br&gt;
1:05:33 Next Time: Clear Linux&lt;br&gt;
1:07:35 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Support us on Patreon!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Banter&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vim Stories&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;There are many guides/shortcut cheatsheets out there. Here are a few that seem good:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://linuxhint.com/vim_shortcuts/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://linuxhint.com/vim_shortcuts/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimsheet.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;http://vimsheet.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Announcements&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Give us a sub on &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;History Series on Text Editors - &lt;code&gt;vi&lt;/code&gt; and &lt;code&gt;vim&lt;/code&gt;
&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;code&gt;vi&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Pronounced V, I)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.vim.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;code&gt;vim&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;code&gt;vi&lt;/code&gt; wikipedia page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_(text_editor)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;code&gt;Vim&lt;/code&gt; wikipedia page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/%7Egc/history/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;George Colouris&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Joy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bill Joy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ADM-3A Terminal&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;keyboard layout&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://begriffs.com/pdf/unix-review-bill-joy.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bill also hacked together a temporary, intermediary editor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1987 - A limited &lt;code&gt;vi&lt;/code&gt; clone STEVIE, the ST Editor for VI Enthusiasts, &lt;a href="https://timthompson.com/tjt/stevie/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;was born.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1988 - Bram Moolenaar took the source for STEVIE and ported it to the Amiga which marked the first release of Vim. It was also known as the "wq text editor" at the time. Most folks take the acronym to mean &lt;code&gt;vi&lt;/code&gt; Improved, but originally, &lt;a href="https://invisible-island.net/vile/vile.faq.html#clone_began" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;it stood for &lt;code&gt;vi&lt;/code&gt; Imitation&lt;/a&gt;. It took on the Improved meaning later in 1993 around version 2.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Moolenaar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bram Moolenaar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.moolenaar.net/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bram's Web page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://groups.google.com/g/comp.editors/c/rdUYDzANsMw/m/ErR-8j1VCfQJ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;code&gt;elvis&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=Eb8J3BONVxAC&amp;amp;pg=PA307#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;code&gt;nvi&lt;/code&gt; was born&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The original &lt;code&gt;vi&lt;/code&gt; source code was &lt;a href="http://www.mckusick.com/csrg/calder-lic.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;released as open source.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;2020 - Fedora switches from Vim to nano for the &lt;a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/33/ChangeSet#Make_nano_the_default_editor" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;default text editor&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;June 28, 2022 - &lt;a href="https://www.vim.org/vim90.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Vim 9.0 is released!&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;More Announcements&lt;/h3&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Mozilla watch&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/07/ubuntu-devs-fix-another-frustrating-firefox-snap-flaw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Firefox on Ubuntu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://9to5linux.com/mozilla-firefox-104-is-now-available-for-download-this-is-whats-new" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Firefox 104 is released&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Gnome Can Now...&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/08/gnome-43-new-features" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Toggle Speakers and Mics&lt;/a&gt; in 43!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Feedback&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Great feedback on our &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/_AIWIfraNt8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;last episode on YouTube&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/EndeavourOS/comments/wr5mql/comment/ikrqf4d/?utm_source=share&amp;amp;utm_medium=web2x&amp;amp;context=3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;lendarker on reddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Community Focus&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/distrotube" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Distrotube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/DistroTube/search?query=vim" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Distrotube Vim videos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Including some tutorial videos &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/ER5JYFKkYDg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;part 1&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/tExTz7GnpdQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;and part 2&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;App Focus&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/ciderapp/Cider" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Cider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Next Time&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We will discuss &lt;a href="https://clearlinux.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Clear Linux&lt;/a&gt; and the history.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Producer&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sravan&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Contributor&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Paul&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>LUS, Linux User Space, Leo Chavez, Dan Simmons, vi, vim, Mozilla, Firefox, Endeavour, Gnome</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Vim stories</li>
<li>The quick history of <code>vi</code> and <code>vim</code></li>
<li>A snappy Mozilla watch</li>
<li>Gnome can toggle too</li>
<li>We take a sip of Cider</li>
</ol>

<hr>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:48 vim Stories<br>
12:05 vi &amp; vim History<br>
22:13 A Few More Thoughts on vim<br>
39:28 A Snappy Mozilla Watch<br>
42:22 New Features to Gnome<br>
52:19 Feedback<br>
58:23 Community Focus: DistroTube<br>
1:00:32 App Focus: Cider<br>
1:05:33 Next Time: Clear Linux<br>
1:07:35 Stinger</p>

<hr>

<h2><a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Support us on Patreon!</a></h2>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li>Vim Stories</li>
<li>There are many guides/shortcut cheatsheets out there. Here are a few that seem good:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/" rel="nofollow">https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linuxhint.com/vim_shortcuts/" rel="nofollow">https://linuxhint.com/vim_shortcuts/</a></li>
<li><a href="http://vimsheet.com" rel="nofollow">http://vimsheet.com</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>History Series on Text Editors - <code>vi</code> and <code>vim</code></h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow"><code>vi</code></a> (Pronounced V, I)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.vim.org/" rel="nofollow"><code>vim</code></a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi" rel="nofollow"><code>vi</code> wikipedia page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_(text_editor)" rel="nofollow"><code>Vim</code> wikipedia page</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/%7Egc/history/" rel="nofollow">George Colouris</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Joy" rel="nofollow">Bill Joy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A" rel="nofollow">ADM-3A Terminal</a> and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg" rel="nofollow">keyboard layout</a></li>
<li><a href="https://begriffs.com/pdf/unix-review-bill-joy.pdf" rel="nofollow">Bill also hacked together a temporary, intermediary editor</a></li>
<li>1987 - A limited <code>vi</code> clone STEVIE, the ST Editor for VI Enthusiasts, <a href="https://timthompson.com/tjt/stevie/" rel="nofollow">was born.</a></li>
<li>1988 - Bram Moolenaar took the source for STEVIE and ported it to the Amiga which marked the first release of Vim. It was also known as the &quot;wq text editor&quot; at the time. Most folks take the acronym to mean <code>vi</code> Improved, but originally, <a href="https://invisible-island.net/vile/vile.faq.html#clone_began" rel="nofollow">it stood for <code>vi</code> Imitation</a>. It took on the Improved meaning later in 1993 around version 2.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Moolenaar" rel="nofollow">Bram Moolenaar</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.moolenaar.net/index.html" rel="nofollow">Bram&#39;s Web page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/comp.editors/c/rdUYDzANsMw/m/ErR-8j1VCfQJ" rel="nofollow"><code>elvis</code></a></li>
<li><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=Eb8J3BONVxAC&pg=PA307#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow"><code>nvi</code> was born</a></li>
<li>The original <code>vi</code> source code was <a href="http://www.mckusick.com/csrg/calder-lic.pdf" rel="nofollow">released as open source.</a></li>
<li>2020 - Fedora switches from Vim to nano for the <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/33/ChangeSet#Make_nano_the_default_editor" rel="nofollow">default text editor</a></li>
<li>June 28, 2022 - <a href="https://www.vim.org/vim90.php" rel="nofollow">Vim 9.0 is released!</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>More Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Mozilla watch</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/07/ubuntu-devs-fix-another-frustrating-firefox-snap-flaw" rel="nofollow">Firefox on Ubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://9to5linux.com/mozilla-firefox-104-is-now-available-for-download-this-is-whats-new" rel="nofollow">Firefox 104 is released</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Gnome Can Now...</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/08/gnome-43-new-features" rel="nofollow">Toggle Speakers and Mics</a> in 43!</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Feedback</h3>

<ul>
<li>Great feedback on our <a href="https://youtu.be/_AIWIfraNt8" rel="nofollow">last episode on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/EndeavourOS/comments/wr5mql/comment/ikrqf4d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3" rel="nofollow">lendarker on reddit</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Community Focus</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/distrotube" rel="nofollow">Distrotube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/DistroTube/search?query=vim" rel="nofollow">Distrotube Vim videos</a></li>
<li>Including some tutorial videos <a href="https://youtu.be/ER5JYFKkYDg" rel="nofollow">part 1</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/tExTz7GnpdQ" rel="nofollow">and part 2</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>App Focus</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://github.com/ciderapp/Cider" rel="nofollow">Cider</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We will discuss <a href="https://clearlinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Clear Linux</a> and the history.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Sravan</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Contributor</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Vim stories</li>
<li>The quick history of <code>vi</code> and <code>vim</code></li>
<li>A snappy Mozilla watch</li>
<li>Gnome can toggle too</li>
<li>We take a sip of Cider</li>
</ol>

<hr>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:48 vim Stories<br>
12:05 vi &amp; vim History<br>
22:13 A Few More Thoughts on vim<br>
39:28 A Snappy Mozilla Watch<br>
42:22 New Features to Gnome<br>
52:19 Feedback<br>
58:23 Community Focus: DistroTube<br>
1:00:32 App Focus: Cider<br>
1:05:33 Next Time: Clear Linux<br>
1:07:35 Stinger</p>

<hr>

<h2><a href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Support us on Patreon!</a></h2>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li>Vim Stories</li>
<li>There are many guides/shortcut cheatsheets out there. Here are a few that seem good:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/" rel="nofollow">https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linuxhint.com/vim_shortcuts/" rel="nofollow">https://linuxhint.com/vim_shortcuts/</a></li>
<li><a href="http://vimsheet.com" rel="nofollow">http://vimsheet.com</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>History Series on Text Editors - <code>vi</code> and <code>vim</code></h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow"><code>vi</code></a> (Pronounced V, I)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.vim.org/" rel="nofollow"><code>vim</code></a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi" rel="nofollow"><code>vi</code> wikipedia page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_(text_editor)" rel="nofollow"><code>Vim</code> wikipedia page</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/%7Egc/history/" rel="nofollow">George Colouris</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Joy" rel="nofollow">Bill Joy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A" rel="nofollow">ADM-3A Terminal</a> and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg" rel="nofollow">keyboard layout</a></li>
<li><a href="https://begriffs.com/pdf/unix-review-bill-joy.pdf" rel="nofollow">Bill also hacked together a temporary, intermediary editor</a></li>
<li>1987 - A limited <code>vi</code> clone STEVIE, the ST Editor for VI Enthusiasts, <a href="https://timthompson.com/tjt/stevie/" rel="nofollow">was born.</a></li>
<li>1988 - Bram Moolenaar took the source for STEVIE and ported it to the Amiga which marked the first release of Vim. It was also known as the &quot;wq text editor&quot; at the time. Most folks take the acronym to mean <code>vi</code> Improved, but originally, <a href="https://invisible-island.net/vile/vile.faq.html#clone_began" rel="nofollow">it stood for <code>vi</code> Imitation</a>. It took on the Improved meaning later in 1993 around version 2.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Moolenaar" rel="nofollow">Bram Moolenaar</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.moolenaar.net/index.html" rel="nofollow">Bram&#39;s Web page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/comp.editors/c/rdUYDzANsMw/m/ErR-8j1VCfQJ" rel="nofollow"><code>elvis</code></a></li>
<li><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=Eb8J3BONVxAC&pg=PA307#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow"><code>nvi</code> was born</a></li>
<li>The original <code>vi</code> source code was <a href="http://www.mckusick.com/csrg/calder-lic.pdf" rel="nofollow">released as open source.</a></li>
<li>2020 - Fedora switches from Vim to nano for the <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/33/ChangeSet#Make_nano_the_default_editor" rel="nofollow">default text editor</a></li>
<li>June 28, 2022 - <a href="https://www.vim.org/vim90.php" rel="nofollow">Vim 9.0 is released!</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>More Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Mozilla watch</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/07/ubuntu-devs-fix-another-frustrating-firefox-snap-flaw" rel="nofollow">Firefox on Ubuntu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://9to5linux.com/mozilla-firefox-104-is-now-available-for-download-this-is-whats-new" rel="nofollow">Firefox 104 is released</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Gnome Can Now...</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/08/gnome-43-new-features" rel="nofollow">Toggle Speakers and Mics</a> in 43!</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Feedback</h3>

<ul>
<li>Great feedback on our <a href="https://youtu.be/_AIWIfraNt8" rel="nofollow">last episode on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/EndeavourOS/comments/wr5mql/comment/ikrqf4d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3" rel="nofollow">lendarker on reddit</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Community Focus</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/distrotube" rel="nofollow">Distrotube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/DistroTube/search?query=vim" rel="nofollow">Distrotube Vim videos</a></li>
<li>Including some tutorial videos <a href="https://youtu.be/ER5JYFKkYDg" rel="nofollow">part 1</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/tExTz7GnpdQ" rel="nofollow">and part 2</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>App Focus</h3>

<p><strong><a href="https://github.com/ciderapp/Cider" rel="nofollow">Cider</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We will discuss <a href="https://clearlinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Clear Linux</a> and the history.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>John</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>Johnny</li>
<li>Sravan</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Contributor</h4>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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