• Vibe Coding Coming to a Plasma Near You
• We Need Another Standard
• The Newest of the New

0:00 Cold Open
2:01 Weird Vibes in Qt-Land
21:51 Rust Is Inevitable
41:04 Fedora, Ubuntu and a Journey
1:08:25 Next Time
1:10:24 Stinger

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What a Qt little AI?

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Ubuntu 25.04 and Fedora 42 Releases

Ubuntu 25.04 and Official Flavors release

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• The Archive Gets Downed
• Thunderbird Goes Mobile
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20:00 Thunderbird's On Android
43:11 Ubuntu's Out, We're In
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Warm Up

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• We put a hat on AI
• The SecureBlue/ublue thing
• The UNIX Wars part deux

0:00 Cold Open
1:49 Artificial Fedora
28:35 The ImmutaBlues
54:01 Feedback
55:20 Tane on Notes and Unix
59:28 Ian on Unix
1:02:33 Chris on Notes and Sync
1:10:22 A Quick Release Update
1:14:41 Next Time
1:18:03 Stinger

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AI dons a hat 🤖🎩

• Matthew Miller on AI in Fedora

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Reverb Focus

Tane via Email

• Tane uses Nextcloud Notes
• Also Iotas
• Unix Wars
• [The terms of the Open Group](Open Group https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html)
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Ian via email

• BSD, AIX, HP-UX and similar are all as UNIX as you can get these days. They started out as licensed UNIX Operating Systems with a direct IP license from AT&T and passed whatever requirements AT&T had at the time.

Chris via email

• Obsidian is not FOSS.
• Logseq is overwhelming at first but good now.

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• The Browser Watch Leftovers
• The History of GNOME
• And Why Gnome is the best desktop
• And a little holiday break

Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:29 Riding the Lightning
16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME
23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x
25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x
33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x
41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond
48:01 How'd GNOME Go?
1:15:39 Next Time: Topics & KDE
1:26:18 Stinger

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Mini Browser Watch

• October 30, Mozilla announces the nightly Deb packages
• November 30, Mozilla announces the developer and beta Deb packages

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• The email in 1997 to start it all
• Development snapshot 0.13 announcement
• GNOME 1.0 release
• GUADEC
• GNOME OG website
• GNOME revamped website
• HP's HP/UX and Sun's Solaris announce they would be using GNOME as their default desktops.
• GNOME Foundation
• GNOME 2.0 release
• Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8
• GNOME no longer part of GNU
• GNOME was no longer an acronym.
• Gnome 3.0 arrives
• Linus Torvalds noted
• Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but noted that
• Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... GNOME.
• Again, the target of litigation
• Rothschild Patent Imaging was stripped of its patent rights
• Gnome 40
• The Gnome 40 announcement
• The Gnome 45 announcement
• Original GNOME introduction (~99)
• The Evolution of the GNOME Project
• Using GNOME gmc (GNOME Midnight Commander)
• "A Brief History of GNOME" Presentation Notes
• "A Brief History of GNOME" Video
• GNOME 2.0 - 40 Release Notes

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• The prying eyes wanna know 👀
• The History of Silverblue
• What's immutable anyway?
• and how we layered a few packages

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1:44 Telemetry Trouble
27:45 Silverblue 2012
30:49 Silverblue 2013-2014
33:55 Silverblue 2015-2017
34:50 Silverblue 2018
38:25 Silverblue 2019-2021
39:56 Silverblue 2022-2023
41:47 An Immutability Primer?
1:01:39 How'd Silverblue Go?
1:28:42 Next Time: Topics & CDE
1:33:04 Stinger

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The History of Fedora Silverblue

• Multiple Bootable Roots
• From GUADEC 2012 - OSTree
• Gnome Continuous
• Walters described OSTree as "a magic formula."
• March 20, 2013 - Docker is born
• CoreOS sees its first public release in October of 2013.
• Red Hat official inclusion of Docker with RHEL 6.5
• April 2014 - Project Atomic
• The actual distro building was left to the actual distro projects.
• Instructions to build on top of Fedora 20
• CENTOS and RHEL partner which began the journey to Atomic Host.
• A Fedora Atomic Host installable ISO becomes available based on Rawhide.
• August 2014 - CentOS Atomic Host alpha builds were available.
• December 2014 - Fedora 21 releases with Atomic Host images.
• March 2015 - Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host released.
• July 2015 - Package layering was introduced.
• Atomic Hosts came and went, including bi-weekly releases
• 2016 - XDG-App was renamed Flatpak.
• 2018 - CoreOS Docker platform was acquired by Red Hat in January. It became, Red Hat CoreOS.
• The Fedora flavor would live on as... Team Silverblue.
• The domain name and handles around the web were available
• It was almost called Silverleaf
• October 30, 2018 - Fedora 29 was released with a Silverblue variant. Matthew Miller on Fedora Magazine noted.
• The Fedora Council made the decision to tighten things up regarding naming.
• 2019 - Fedora 30 and the Silverblue variant were released
• 2021 - Silverblue 35 in November, Fedora Kinoite appears.
• 2023 - Silverblue 38 in April, Fedora Sericea appears.

Further Reading

• Fedora Silverblue Technical information
• rpm-ostree documentation
• Vanilla OS documentation
• ABRoot
• blendOS documentation
• libostree
• Sodalite
• Bazzite
• Universal Blue

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1. CentOS
2. ...
3. ...
4. Just CentOS

316 Audio Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:48 With a Little Help From Our Friends
9:42 CentOS History, 90's - 1996
11:46 96 - 2000
14:01 2000 - 2003
20:29 The Clone Wars
24:47 2004 - 2014
30:25 2014 - 2022
36:41 Our CentOS Experience
1:11:00 Next Time: Topics!
1:14:31 Stinger

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• The bug
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CentOS Linux the History

• July 1994 The "preview" release for Red Hat Linux is released internally
• October 31 codenamed "Halloween" 0.9 is released.
• May 1995 "Mother's Day" 1.0 is released and introduces some iconic branding.
• March 1996 "Picasso" 3.0.3 is released. Version numbers might really matter, check out our Slackware episode to find out how Patrick Volkerding felt about them. TL;DW
• September 2000 Red Hat Linux 7.0 has releases with [their renamed gcc version](features.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/163218&mode=thread)
• May 2002 Enter Red Hat Enterprise Linux with version 2.1.
• Sometime within 2002, Warren Togami starts the Fedora Linux Project.
  • It aimed to bring together additional packages for Red Hat Linux.
  • It wasn't a distribution on its own. It was Extras for the existing Red Hat Linuxes.
• March 2003 Red Hat Linux 9.0, named Shrike, is released.
• July 2003 Severn, the beta for what would be Red Hat Linux 10, changes to a more open and community focused development process.
• September 2003, Red Hat Linux and the Fedora Linux Project, [merge into The Fedora Project].(https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/).
  • Mailing list announcement
  • Transition info
• Also in September, enter cAos.
  • cAos1-base and cAos1-enhanced couldn't really exist without each other.
• November 2003 Red Hat signals that it's getting out of the Boxed Linux business.
• What was to be Red Hat Linux 10 instead released as Fedora Core 1 with Extras.
• December 2003 the first alpha of cAos.
• Three weeks later, CentOS 3.
• Another week later, CentOS 2 beta.
• Whitebox Linux first release candidate.
• David Parsley registered taolinux.org, and in December, started getting the site together.
• Why Tao Linux?
• June 2006, David had to switch jobs.
• Scientific Linux
• Feburary 2004 the final release cAos-1, the proof of concept,made it to mirrors.
• March 2004 CentOS 3.1 is released.
• Karanbir Singh, or KB, noted that 3.3 was the first proper release.
• February 2005 CentOS receieved a Cease and Desist letter from the lawyers over at Red Hat in regards to using the Red Hat Logos and name on the centos.org website. CentOS's response.
• March 2005 CentOS 4 was released two weeks after its upstream RHEL 4. Coverage was picking up.
• Lance Davis announces that CentOS is separating itself from the cAos project.
• May 2005 cAos 2 is announced, also based on RHEL 3.
• 2008 A new distribution, also called Caos.
• July 2009 Lance Davis, one of the Founders and lead of the CentOS 2 release, had been missing for many months.
  • From the mailing list
  • From the Register
• October 14 2009 Caos Linux 1.0.25 is released and is the last release of Caos, ever.
• January of 2014, Red Hat acquires.
• July 2014 CentOS 7.0 is released.
• 2019 Red Hat leaves Shadowman behind.
• September 2019 Red Hat announces CentOS Stream.
• Also in in September 2019, CentOS Linux 8 and CentOS Stream are released.
• January 2021; Red Hat changes the way their dev subscriptions work.
• December 2021 CentOS 9 Stream is released.

CentOS links

• Main Web Page
• About
• Blog
• Wiki
• Forums
• Mailing Lists
• Git Repositories
• Bug reporting
• IRC
• Planet
• List of CentOS releases

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• Rocky Linux
• Red Hat Linux family tree

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Coming up in this episode

1. We look to the past
2. We look to the present
3. And we look to the future

Banter - Stay Tuned

• We are taking a break but we will be back soon (a couple of months). We plan to keep our livestreams going on twitch. Watch our socials and linuxuserspace.show
• We look back at our season

Fedora 36 is coming

• The very busy schedule
• Blocker Bug Tracking
• Freeze Exception Bugs
• Gnome 42 will be in there

Ubuntu 22.04 is also coming

• Testing tracker
• 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish proposed release schedule
• Draft 22.04 Release Notes
• omg!ubuntu!'s coverage of the accent colors
• Triple Buffering Patch
• New Logo

Phishing for the Experienced

• Post from mr.d0x
• Bleeping Computer article

Feedback

Levsky via YouTube - Slackware

• Is it good to learn for professional advancement? Listen to our thoughts.

Peter via YouTube - on past episodes

• We moved YouTube channels some time ago.
• We plan to post "reruns" during the offseason while we upload past episodes. Watch the playlists on our channel for updates.
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Lioh via Email - on Proper Slacking

• slackpkg hook to help with kernel upgrades
• wget https://linuxkurs.ch/kurs/zlookkernel.sh -O /usr/libexec/slackpkg/functions.d/zlookkernel.sh
• chmod +x /usr/libexec/slackpkg/functions.d/zlookkernel.sh
• Lioh's Open Source Linux course (for beginners!) based on Slackware (in German)

CubicleNate via Patreon - on Xfree86 transition

• Xfree86
• X.Org

Larry via Email - on KDE Plasma

• KDE Plasma
• Manjaro
• MX Linux
• Linux Mint
• Linux Saloon
• Ghostery Browser

Eric via Matrix - on the Framework Laptop

• Framework Laptop

Aris via Discord - on Distro Benefits

• Building Void packages from source
• AUR Packages
• Slackbuilds

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App Focus

Metadata Cleaner

We look back at the great apps

• Dan - FreshRSS, Kid3, Quickemu
• Leo - Nextcloud, FreshRSS, Firefox Multi-account Containers

Next Time

We return from our break. Our first show back will be a topic show. We have some things we anticipate we will be covering throughout the season, Leo's Framework Laptop, My SteamDeck, Leo's Pinephone.

Ubuntu 22.04 LTS in Season 3 Episode 2

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