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  <description>Coming up in this episode
* AI's Won't Take Over Yet
* Is Rust Open Source?
* and All Kinds of Feedback
The Video Version
https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA
0:00 Cold Open
3:56 Curl's "AI Slop" Problem
25:12 A Little Viral Licensing
42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️
    42:30 ukwan / Youtube
    51:16 jliljj / Youtube
    56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube
    1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube
    1:02:06 amanita / Patreon
    1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube
1:09:35 The Rules, Commands &amp;amp; Next Time
1:19:12 Stinger
The Curl project pushes back on AI slop
The Ars Technica article (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/open-source-project-curl-is-sick-of-users-submitting-ai-slop-vulnerabilities/)
The Curl project on Hacker One (https://hackerone.com/curl?type=team)
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
* 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace)
* 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace)
* And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍
Is Rust opensource?
 Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a Stackoverflow post about C language. (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5099384/is-c-open-source)
Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. license (https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/licenses)
Over the years many CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel (https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33). Many of those involve memory corruption.
📣More Announcements📣
Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum)
Feedback
ukwan from YouTube
Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going.
jliljj from YouTube
I'd go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn.
FredsTech1 from YouTube
Asked about unattended upgrades.
Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything.
The Ubuntu Docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates)
siljrath from YouTube
I thought I signed up.  Anyone know when thundermail happens?
Conan Kudo
In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don't have problems with Anaconda's hub-and-spoke model.
Amanita from Patreon
It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good.
redvamp128 from YouTube
You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux
It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned!
🧹Housekeeping🧹
Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.
* 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show)
* 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit)
* ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord)
* 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram)
* ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix)
* 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch)
* 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon)
* 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter)
* 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids)
* 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky)
Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey
Leo's list of software
obs-studio
discord
telegram
element
kdenlive
gimp
inkscape
firefox
brave
Some commands to help check on sizes
flatpak list --app --columns=size,name
flatpaklist --column=size,name
du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research.
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. 
Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
Producer
Bruno
Dave
John
Visaggio &amp;amp; Co
Co-Producer
--verbose
LqLarry
MarshMan
GrouchyM
Tim
Super User
A.J.
Advait
Amanita
Backshift6090
CubicleNate
Eduardo S.
FrozenGorilla
Hausken
Jeff3ix
Jefferson
Jill and Steve
Larry
LiNuXsys666
Livet
Musical Coder
Mick
Nicholas
Rotted Mood
sleepyeyesvince
The Saigoneer 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>AI&#39;s Won&#39;t Take Over Yet</li>
<li>Is Rust Open Source?</li>
<li>and All Kinds of Feedback</li>
</ul>

<p>The Video Version<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA</a></p>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
3:56 Curl&#39;s &quot;AI Slop&quot; Problem<br>
25:12 A Little Viral Licensing<br>
42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️<br>
    42:30 ukwan / Youtube<br>
    51:16 jliljj / Youtube<br>
    56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube<br>
    1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube<br>
    1:02:06 amanita / Patreon<br>
    1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube<br>
1:09:35 The Rules, Commands &amp; Next Time<br>
1:19:12 Stinger</p>

<h2>The Curl project pushes back on AI slop</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/open-source-project-curl-is-sick-of-users-submitting-ai-slop-vulnerabilities/" rel="nofollow">The Ars Technica article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hackerone.com/curl?type=team" rel="nofollow">The Curl project on Hacker One</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Is Rust opensource?</h2>

<ul>
<li> Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5099384/is-c-open-source" rel="nofollow">Stackoverflow post about C language.</a></li>
<li>Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. <a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/licenses" rel="nofollow">license</a></li>
<li>Over the years many <a href="https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33" rel="nofollow">CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel</a>. Many of those involve memory corruption.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h3>ukwan from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going.</li>
</ul>

<h3>jliljj from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>I&#39;d go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn.</li>
</ul>

<h3>FredsTech1 from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>Asked about unattended upgrades.</li>
<li>Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything.</li>
<li>The <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Docs</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>siljrath from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>I thought I signed up.  Anyone know when thundermail happens?</li>
</ul>

<h3>Conan Kudo</h3>

<ul>
<li>In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don&#39;t have problems with Anaconda&#39;s hub-and-spoke model.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Amanita from Patreon</h3>

<ul>
<li>It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good.</li>
</ul>

<h3>redvamp128 from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux</li>
<li>It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned!</li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey</h2>

<h3>Leo&#39;s list of software</h3>

<ul>
<li>obs-studio</li>
<li>discord</li>
<li>telegram</li>
<li>element</li>
<li>kdenlive</li>
<li>gimp</li>
<li>inkscape</li>
<li>firefox</li>
<li>brave</li>
</ul>

<h3>Some commands to help check on sizes</h3>

<ul>
<li><code>flatpak list --app --columns=size,name</code></li>
<li><code>flatpaklist --column=size,name</code></li>
<li><code>du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*</code></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
<li>--verbose</li>
<li>LqLarry</li>
<li>MarshMan</li>
<li>GrouchyM</li>
<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h4>Super User</h4>

<ul>
<li>A.J.</li>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Amanita</li>
<li>Backshift6090</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>FrozenGorilla</li>
<li>Hausken</li>
<li>Jeff3ix</li>
<li>Jefferson</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
<li>Mick</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Rotted Mood</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
<li>The Saigoneer</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>AI&#39;s Won&#39;t Take Over Yet</li>
<li>Is Rust Open Source?</li>
<li>and All Kinds of Feedback</li>
</ul>

<p>The Video Version<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA</a></p>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
3:56 Curl&#39;s &quot;AI Slop&quot; Problem<br>
25:12 A Little Viral Licensing<br>
42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️<br>
    42:30 ukwan / Youtube<br>
    51:16 jliljj / Youtube<br>
    56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube<br>
    1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube<br>
    1:02:06 amanita / Patreon<br>
    1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube<br>
1:09:35 The Rules, Commands &amp; Next Time<br>
1:19:12 Stinger</p>

<h2>The Curl project pushes back on AI slop</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/open-source-project-curl-is-sick-of-users-submitting-ai-slop-vulnerabilities/" rel="nofollow">The Ars Technica article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hackerone.com/curl?type=team" rel="nofollow">The Curl project on Hacker One</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>📣Announcements📣</h2>

<p><em>This program was made possible by:</em></p>

<ul>
<li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li>
<li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li>
<li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li>
</ul>

<h2>Is Rust opensource?</h2>

<ul>
<li> Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5099384/is-c-open-source" rel="nofollow">Stackoverflow post about C language.</a></li>
<li>Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. <a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/licenses" rel="nofollow">license</a></li>
<li>Over the years many <a href="https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33" rel="nofollow">CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel</a>. Many of those involve memory corruption.</li>
</ul>

<h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<h3>ukwan from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going.</li>
</ul>

<h3>jliljj from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>I&#39;d go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn.</li>
</ul>

<h3>FredsTech1 from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>Asked about unattended upgrades.</li>
<li>Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything.</li>
<li>The <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Docs</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>siljrath from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>I thought I signed up.  Anyone know when thundermail happens?</li>
</ul>

<h3>Conan Kudo</h3>

<ul>
<li>In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don&#39;t have problems with Anaconda&#39;s hub-and-spoke model.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Amanita from Patreon</h3>

<ul>
<li>It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good.</li>
</ul>

<h3>redvamp128 from YouTube</h3>

<ul>
<li>You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux</li>
<li>It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned!</li>
</ul>

<h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li>
<li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
<li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li>
<li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li>
<li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
<li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey</h2>

<h3>Leo&#39;s list of software</h3>

<ul>
<li>obs-studio</li>
<li>discord</li>
<li>telegram</li>
<li>element</li>
<li>kdenlive</li>
<li>gimp</li>
<li>inkscape</li>
<li>firefox</li>
<li>brave</li>
</ul>

<h3>Some commands to help check on sizes</h3>

<ul>
<li><code>flatpak list --app --columns=size,name</code></li>
<li><code>flatpaklist --column=size,name</code></li>
<li><code>du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*</code></li>
</ul>

<h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2>

<p><strong>We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research.</strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

<ul>
<li>Bruno</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>John</li>
<li>Visaggio &amp; Co</li>
</ul>

<h3>Co-Producer</h3>

<ul>
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