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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CentOS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;...&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;...&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Just CentOS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;316 Audio Timestamps&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:48 With a Little Help From Our Friends&lt;br&gt;
9:42 CentOS History, 90's - 1996&lt;br&gt;
11:46 96 - 2000&lt;br&gt;
14:01 2000 - 2003&lt;br&gt;
20:29 The Clone Wars&lt;br&gt;
24:47 2004 - 2014&lt;br&gt;
30:25 2014 - 2022&lt;br&gt;
36:41 Our CentOS Experience&lt;br&gt;
1:11:00 Next Time: Topics!&lt;br&gt;
1:14:31 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Watch this episode &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;on Youtube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Banter&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@leochavez/109809074194178438" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Leo's font issue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2144433#c6" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The bug&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;HUGE&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks to Carl George for technical help with this episode.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Announcements&lt;/h3&gt;

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&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;CentOS Linux the History&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;July 1994 &lt;a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Red_Hat_Linux" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The "preview" release for Red Hat Linux is released internally&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;October 31 codenamed "Halloween" 0.9 is released.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;May 1995 "Mother's Day" 1.0 is released and introduces some iconic branding.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;March 1996 "Picasso" 3.0.3 is released. Version numbers might really matter, check out our &lt;a href="https://www.linuxuserspace.show/219" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Slackware episode&lt;/a&gt; to find out how Patrick Volkerding felt about them. &lt;a href="http://www.slackware.com/faq/do_faq.php?faq=general#0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;TL;DW&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;September 2000 Red Hat Linux 7.0 has releases with [their renamed gcc version](features.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/163218&amp;amp;mode=thread)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;May 2002 Enter &lt;a href="https://access.redhat.com/articles/3078" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Red Hat Enterprise Linux&lt;/a&gt; with version 2.1.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sometime within 2002, Warren Togami &lt;a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Wtogami?rd=WarrenTogami" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;starts the Fedora Linux Project&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;It &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031008123733/http://www.fedora.us/index-main.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;aimed to bring together&lt;/a&gt; additional packages for Red Hat Linux.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20030219051938/http://www.fedora.us/fedora.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;It wasn't a distribution on its own&lt;/a&gt;. It was Extras for the existing Red Hat Linuxes.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;March 2003 Red Hat Linux 9.0, named Shrike, is released.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;July 2003 Severn, the beta for what would be Red Hat Linux 10, changes to a &lt;a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/40201/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;more open and community focused development process&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;September 2003, Red Hat Linux and the Fedora Linux Project, [merge into The Fedora Project].(&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/&lt;/a&gt;).

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2003-September/msg00137.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mailing list announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7169" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Transition info&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Also in September, enter &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120507000526/http://www.caoslinux.org/about.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;cAos&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;cAos1-base and cAos1-enhanced &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050207043816/https://www.linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=News&amp;amp;file=article&amp;amp;sid=406" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;couldn't really exist without each other&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;November 2003 Red Hat signals that it's &lt;a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/56947/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;getting out of the Boxed Linux business&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What was to be Red Hat Linux 10 instead released as Fedora Core 1 &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031107044428/http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;with&lt;/a&gt; Extras.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;December 2003 the &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040128013252/http://caosity.org:80/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;first alpha&lt;/a&gt; of cAos.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Three weeks later, &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040202083913/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&amp;amp;task=viewarticle&amp;amp;sid=10" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CentOS 3&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Another week later, &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040202084601/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&amp;amp;task=viewarticle&amp;amp;sid=11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CentOS 2 beta&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whitebox Linux &lt;a href="http://www.whiteboxlinux.org/news.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;first release candidate&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David Parsley registered taolinux.org, and in December, &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040111131901/http://taolinux.org:80/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;started getting the site together&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040704030839/http://taolinux.org/?q=node/view/5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Why Tao Linux?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;June 2006, David &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20061013083339/http://taolinux.org/?q=node/view/8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;had to switch jobs&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://scientificlinux.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Scientific Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Feburary 2004 the final release cAos-1, the proof of concept,&lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040402100908/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&amp;amp;task=viewarticle&amp;amp;sid=22" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;made it to mirrors&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;March 2004 CentOS 3.1 &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040325064219/http://caosity.org:80/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;is released&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Karanbir Singh, or KB, noted that 3.3 &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTX5yguTxA4&amp;amp;t=352s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;was the first proper release&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;February 2005 CentOS receieved a Cease and Desist letter from the lawyers over at Red Hat in regards to using the Red Hat Logos and name on the centos.org website. &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050222184509/http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CentOS's response&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;March 2005 CentOS 4 was released two weeks after its upstream RHEL 4. &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050507081709/www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/5823/1/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Coverage was picking up&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lance Davis &lt;a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2005-March/537696.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;announces&lt;/a&gt; that CentOS is separating itself from the cAos project.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;May 2005 cAos 2 &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040522050643/http://caosity.org:80/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;is announced&lt;/a&gt;, also based on RHEL 3.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;2008 A new distribution, also &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20081203074352/http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/caos/2008-November/002537.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;called Caos&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;July 2009 Lance Davis, one of the Founders and lead of the CentOS 2 release, &lt;a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/centos-getting-their-st-together-is-a-top-priority/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;had been missing for many months&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-July/079767.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;From the mailing list&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theregister.com/2009/07/30/centos_open_letter/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;From the Register&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;October 14 2009 Caos Linux 1.0.25 is released and is the last release of Caos, ever.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;January of 2014, Red Hat &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-and-centos-join-forces" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;acquires&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;July 2014 CentOS 7.0 &lt;a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;is released&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;2019 Red Hat &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/brand/new-brand#" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;leaves Shadowman behind&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;September 2019 Red Hat &lt;a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/transforming-development-experience-within-centos" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;announces&lt;/a&gt; CentOS Stream.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Also in in September 2019, CentOS Linux 8 and CentOS Stream &lt;a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2019-September/023449.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;are released&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;January 2021; Red Hat changes the way their &lt;a href="https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/20/red_hat_amends_developer_license/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;dev subscriptions work&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;December 2021 &lt;a href="https://blog.centos.org/2021/12/introducing-centos-stream-9/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CentOS 9 Stream is released&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;CentOS links&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://centos.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Main Web Page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.centos.org/about/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;About&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.centos.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.centos.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Wiki&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.centos.org/forums/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Forums&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp/ListInfo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mailing Lists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://git.centos.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Git Repositories&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.centos.org/ReportBugs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bug reporting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://wiki.centos.org/irc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IRC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://planet.centos.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Planet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;List of CentOS releases&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Other Links&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://almalinux.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;AlmaLinux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://rockylinux.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Rocky Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Redhat_family_tree_11-06.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Red Hat Linux family tree&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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&lt;h3&gt;Next Time&lt;/h3&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>CentOS</li>
<li>...</li>
<li>...</li>
<li>Just CentOS</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>316 Audio Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:48 With a Little Help From Our Friends<br>
9:42 CentOS History, 90&#39;s - 1996<br>
11:46 96 - 2000<br>
14:01 2000 - 2003<br>
20:29 The Clone Wars<br>
24:47 2004 - 2014<br>
30:25 2014 - 2022<br>
36:41 Our CentOS Experience<br>
1:11:00 Next Time: Topics!<br>
1:14:31 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>Watch this episode <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc" rel="nofollow">on Youtube</a></strong><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc</a></p>

<hr>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@leochavez/109809074194178438" rel="nofollow">Leo&#39;s font issue</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2144433#c6" rel="nofollow">The bug</a></li>
<li><strong>HUGE</strong> Thanks to Carl George for technical help with this episode.</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
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<hr>

<h3>CentOS Linux the History</h3>

<ul>
<li>July 1994 <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Red_Hat_Linux" rel="nofollow">The &quot;preview&quot; release for Red Hat Linux is released internally</a></li>
<li>October 31 codenamed &quot;Halloween&quot; 0.9 is released.</li>
<li>May 1995 &quot;Mother&#39;s Day&quot; 1.0 is released and introduces some iconic branding.</li>
<li>March 1996 &quot;Picasso&quot; 3.0.3 is released. Version numbers might really matter, check out our <a href="https://www.linuxuserspace.show/219" rel="nofollow">Slackware episode</a> to find out how Patrick Volkerding felt about them. <a href="http://www.slackware.com/faq/do_faq.php?faq=general#0" rel="nofollow">TL;DW</a></li>
<li>September 2000 Red Hat Linux 7.0 has releases with [their renamed gcc version](features.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/163218&amp;mode=thread)</li>
<li>May 2002 Enter <a href="https://access.redhat.com/articles/3078" rel="nofollow">Red Hat Enterprise Linux</a> with version 2.1.</li>
<li>Sometime within 2002, Warren Togami <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Wtogami?rd=WarrenTogami" rel="nofollow">starts the Fedora Linux Project</a>.

<ul>
<li>It <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031008123733/http://www.fedora.us/index-main.html" rel="nofollow">aimed to bring together</a> additional packages for Red Hat Linux.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20030219051938/http://www.fedora.us/fedora.html" rel="nofollow">It wasn&#39;t a distribution on its own</a>. It was Extras for the existing Red Hat Linuxes.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>March 2003 Red Hat Linux 9.0, named Shrike, is released.</li>
<li>July 2003 Severn, the beta for what would be Red Hat Linux 10, changes to a <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/40201/" rel="nofollow">more open and community focused development process</a>.</li>
<li>September 2003, Red Hat Linux and the Fedora Linux Project, [merge into The Fedora Project].(<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/</a>).

<ul>
<li><a href="https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2003-September/msg00137.html" rel="nofollow">Mailing list announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7169" rel="nofollow">Transition info</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Also in September, enter <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120507000526/http://www.caoslinux.org/about.html" rel="nofollow">cAos</a>.

<ul>
<li>cAos1-base and cAos1-enhanced <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050207043816/https://www.linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=406" rel="nofollow">couldn&#39;t really exist without each other</a>.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>November 2003 Red Hat signals that it&#39;s <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/56947/" rel="nofollow">getting out of the Boxed Linux business</a>.</li>
<li>What was to be Red Hat Linux 10 instead released as Fedora Core 1 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031107044428/http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES.html" rel="nofollow">with</a> Extras.</li>
<li>December 2003 the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040128013252/http://caosity.org:80/" rel="nofollow">first alpha</a> of cAos.</li>
<li>Three weeks later, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040202083913/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=10" rel="nofollow">CentOS 3</a>.</li>
<li>Another week later, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040202084601/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=11" rel="nofollow">CentOS 2 beta</a>.</li>
<li>Whitebox Linux <a href="http://www.whiteboxlinux.org/news.html" rel="nofollow">first release candidate</a>.</li>
<li>David Parsley registered taolinux.org, and in December, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040111131901/http://taolinux.org:80/" rel="nofollow">started getting the site together</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040704030839/http://taolinux.org/?q=node/view/5" rel="nofollow">Why Tao Linux?</a></li>
<li>June 2006, David <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20061013083339/http://taolinux.org/?q=node/view/8" rel="nofollow">had to switch jobs</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://scientificlinux.org" rel="nofollow">Scientific Linux</a></li>
<li>Feburary 2004 the final release cAos-1, the proof of concept,<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040402100908/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=22" rel="nofollow">made it to mirrors</a>.</li>
<li>March 2004 CentOS 3.1 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040325064219/http://caosity.org:80/" rel="nofollow">is released</a>.</li>
<li>Karanbir Singh, or KB, noted that 3.3 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTX5yguTxA4&t=352s" rel="nofollow">was the first proper release</a>.</li>
<li>February 2005 CentOS receieved a Cease and Desist letter from the lawyers over at Red Hat in regards to using the Red Hat Logos and name on the centos.org website. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050222184509/http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66" rel="nofollow">CentOS&#39;s response</a>.</li>
<li>March 2005 CentOS 4 was released two weeks after its upstream RHEL 4. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050507081709/www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/5823/1/" rel="nofollow">Coverage was picking up</a>.</li>
<li>Lance Davis <a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2005-March/537696.html" rel="nofollow">announces</a> that CentOS is separating itself from the cAos project.</li>
<li>May 2005 cAos 2 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040522050643/http://caosity.org:80/" rel="nofollow">is announced</a>, also based on RHEL 3.</li>
<li>2008 A new distribution, also <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20081203074352/http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/caos/2008-November/002537.html" rel="nofollow">called Caos</a>.</li>
<li>July 2009 Lance Davis, one of the Founders and lead of the CentOS 2 release, <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/centos-getting-their-st-together-is-a-top-priority/" rel="nofollow">had been missing for many months</a>.

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-July/079767.html" rel="nofollow">From the mailing list</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2009/07/30/centos_open_letter/" rel="nofollow">From the Register</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>October 14 2009 Caos Linux 1.0.25 is released and is the last release of Caos, ever.</li>
<li>January of 2014, Red Hat <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-and-centos-join-forces" rel="nofollow">acquires</a>.</li>
<li>July 2014 CentOS 7.0 <a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a>.</li>
<li>2019 Red Hat <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/brand/new-brand#" rel="nofollow">leaves Shadowman behind</a>.</li>
<li>September 2019 Red Hat <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/transforming-development-experience-within-centos" rel="nofollow">announces</a> CentOS Stream.</li>
<li>Also in in September 2019, CentOS Linux 8 and CentOS Stream <a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2019-September/023449.html" rel="nofollow">are released</a>.</li>
<li>January 2021; Red Hat changes the way their <a href="https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/20/red_hat_amends_developer_license/" rel="nofollow">dev subscriptions work</a>.</li>
<li>December 2021 <a href="https://blog.centos.org/2021/12/introducing-centos-stream-9/" rel="nofollow">CentOS 9 Stream is released</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h3>CentOS links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://centos.org" rel="nofollow">Main Web Page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.centos.org/about/" rel="nofollow">About</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.centos.org/" rel="nofollow">Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.centos.org/" rel="nofollow">Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.centos.org/forums/" rel="nofollow">Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp/ListInfo" rel="nofollow">Mailing Lists</a></li>
<li><a href="https://git.centos.org" rel="nofollow">Git Repositories</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.centos.org/ReportBugs" rel="nofollow">Bug reporting</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.centos.org/irc" rel="nofollow">IRC</a></li>
<li><a href="http://planet.centos.org/" rel="nofollow">Planet</a></li>
<li><a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/" rel="nofollow">List of CentOS releases</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Other Links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://almalinux.org" rel="nofollow">AlmaLinux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rockylinux.org" rel="nofollow">Rocky Linux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Redhat_family_tree_11-06.png" rel="nofollow">Red Hat Linux family tree</a></li>
</ul>

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<p>Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

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<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
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<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is <a href="https://endlessos.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS</a></strong></p>

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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>CentOS</li>
<li>...</li>
<li>...</li>
<li>Just CentOS</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>316 Audio Timestamps</strong><br>
0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:48 With a Little Help From Our Friends<br>
9:42 CentOS History, 90&#39;s - 1996<br>
11:46 96 - 2000<br>
14:01 2000 - 2003<br>
20:29 The Clone Wars<br>
24:47 2004 - 2014<br>
30:25 2014 - 2022<br>
36:41 Our CentOS Experience<br>
1:11:00 Next Time: Topics!<br>
1:14:31 Stinger</p>

<p><strong>Watch this episode <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc" rel="nofollow">on Youtube</a></strong><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc</a></p>

<hr>

<h3>Banter</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@leochavez/109809074194178438" rel="nofollow">Leo&#39;s font issue</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2144433#c6" rel="nofollow">The bug</a></li>
<li><strong>HUGE</strong> Thanks to Carl George for technical help with this episode.</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>CentOS Linux the History</h3>

<ul>
<li>July 1994 <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Red_Hat_Linux" rel="nofollow">The &quot;preview&quot; release for Red Hat Linux is released internally</a></li>
<li>October 31 codenamed &quot;Halloween&quot; 0.9 is released.</li>
<li>May 1995 &quot;Mother&#39;s Day&quot; 1.0 is released and introduces some iconic branding.</li>
<li>March 1996 &quot;Picasso&quot; 3.0.3 is released. Version numbers might really matter, check out our <a href="https://www.linuxuserspace.show/219" rel="nofollow">Slackware episode</a> to find out how Patrick Volkerding felt about them. <a href="http://www.slackware.com/faq/do_faq.php?faq=general#0" rel="nofollow">TL;DW</a></li>
<li>September 2000 Red Hat Linux 7.0 has releases with [their renamed gcc version](features.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/163218&amp;mode=thread)</li>
<li>May 2002 Enter <a href="https://access.redhat.com/articles/3078" rel="nofollow">Red Hat Enterprise Linux</a> with version 2.1.</li>
<li>Sometime within 2002, Warren Togami <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Wtogami?rd=WarrenTogami" rel="nofollow">starts the Fedora Linux Project</a>.

<ul>
<li>It <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031008123733/http://www.fedora.us/index-main.html" rel="nofollow">aimed to bring together</a> additional packages for Red Hat Linux.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20030219051938/http://www.fedora.us/fedora.html" rel="nofollow">It wasn&#39;t a distribution on its own</a>. It was Extras for the existing Red Hat Linuxes.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>March 2003 Red Hat Linux 9.0, named Shrike, is released.</li>
<li>July 2003 Severn, the beta for what would be Red Hat Linux 10, changes to a <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/40201/" rel="nofollow">more open and community focused development process</a>.</li>
<li>September 2003, Red Hat Linux and the Fedora Linux Project, [merge into The Fedora Project].(<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/</a>).

<ul>
<li><a href="https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2003-September/msg00137.html" rel="nofollow">Mailing list announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7169" rel="nofollow">Transition info</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Also in September, enter <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120507000526/http://www.caoslinux.org/about.html" rel="nofollow">cAos</a>.

<ul>
<li>cAos1-base and cAos1-enhanced <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050207043816/https://www.linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=406" rel="nofollow">couldn&#39;t really exist without each other</a>.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>November 2003 Red Hat signals that it&#39;s <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/56947/" rel="nofollow">getting out of the Boxed Linux business</a>.</li>
<li>What was to be Red Hat Linux 10 instead released as Fedora Core 1 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20031107044428/http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES.html" rel="nofollow">with</a> Extras.</li>
<li>December 2003 the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040128013252/http://caosity.org:80/" rel="nofollow">first alpha</a> of cAos.</li>
<li>Three weeks later, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040202083913/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=10" rel="nofollow">CentOS 3</a>.</li>
<li>Another week later, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040202084601/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=11" rel="nofollow">CentOS 2 beta</a>.</li>
<li>Whitebox Linux <a href="http://www.whiteboxlinux.org/news.html" rel="nofollow">first release candidate</a>.</li>
<li>David Parsley registered taolinux.org, and in December, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040111131901/http://taolinux.org:80/" rel="nofollow">started getting the site together</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040704030839/http://taolinux.org/?q=node/view/5" rel="nofollow">Why Tao Linux?</a></li>
<li>June 2006, David <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20061013083339/http://taolinux.org/?q=node/view/8" rel="nofollow">had to switch jobs</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://scientificlinux.org" rel="nofollow">Scientific Linux</a></li>
<li>Feburary 2004 the final release cAos-1, the proof of concept,<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040402100908/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=22" rel="nofollow">made it to mirrors</a>.</li>
<li>March 2004 CentOS 3.1 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040325064219/http://caosity.org:80/" rel="nofollow">is released</a>.</li>
<li>Karanbir Singh, or KB, noted that 3.3 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTX5yguTxA4&t=352s" rel="nofollow">was the first proper release</a>.</li>
<li>February 2005 CentOS receieved a Cease and Desist letter from the lawyers over at Red Hat in regards to using the Red Hat Logos and name on the centos.org website. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050222184509/http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66" rel="nofollow">CentOS&#39;s response</a>.</li>
<li>March 2005 CentOS 4 was released two weeks after its upstream RHEL 4. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050507081709/www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/5823/1/" rel="nofollow">Coverage was picking up</a>.</li>
<li>Lance Davis <a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2005-March/537696.html" rel="nofollow">announces</a> that CentOS is separating itself from the cAos project.</li>
<li>May 2005 cAos 2 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20040522050643/http://caosity.org:80/" rel="nofollow">is announced</a>, also based on RHEL 3.</li>
<li>2008 A new distribution, also <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20081203074352/http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/caos/2008-November/002537.html" rel="nofollow">called Caos</a>.</li>
<li>July 2009 Lance Davis, one of the Founders and lead of the CentOS 2 release, <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/centos-getting-their-st-together-is-a-top-priority/" rel="nofollow">had been missing for many months</a>.

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-July/079767.html" rel="nofollow">From the mailing list</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2009/07/30/centos_open_letter/" rel="nofollow">From the Register</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>October 14 2009 Caos Linux 1.0.25 is released and is the last release of Caos, ever.</li>
<li>January of 2014, Red Hat <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-and-centos-join-forces" rel="nofollow">acquires</a>.</li>
<li>July 2014 CentOS 7.0 <a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html" rel="nofollow">is released</a>.</li>
<li>2019 Red Hat <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/about/brand/new-brand#" rel="nofollow">leaves Shadowman behind</a>.</li>
<li>September 2019 Red Hat <a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/transforming-development-experience-within-centos" rel="nofollow">announces</a> CentOS Stream.</li>
<li>Also in in September 2019, CentOS Linux 8 and CentOS Stream <a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2019-September/023449.html" rel="nofollow">are released</a>.</li>
<li>January 2021; Red Hat changes the way their <a href="https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/20/red_hat_amends_developer_license/" rel="nofollow">dev subscriptions work</a>.</li>
<li>December 2021 <a href="https://blog.centos.org/2021/12/introducing-centos-stream-9/" rel="nofollow">CentOS 9 Stream is released</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h3>CentOS links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://centos.org" rel="nofollow">Main Web Page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.centos.org/about/" rel="nofollow">About</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.centos.org/" rel="nofollow">Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.centos.org/" rel="nofollow">Wiki</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.centos.org/forums/" rel="nofollow">Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp/ListInfo" rel="nofollow">Mailing Lists</a></li>
<li><a href="https://git.centos.org" rel="nofollow">Git Repositories</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.centos.org/ReportBugs" rel="nofollow">Bug reporting</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.centos.org/irc" rel="nofollow">IRC</a></li>
<li><a href="http://planet.centos.org/" rel="nofollow">Planet</a></li>
<li><a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/" rel="nofollow">List of CentOS releases</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Other Links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://almalinux.org" rel="nofollow">AlmaLinux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rockylinux.org" rel="nofollow">Rocky Linux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Redhat_family_tree_11-06.png" rel="nofollow">Red Hat Linux family tree</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>More Announcements</h3>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

<p>Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li>
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<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is <a href="https://endlessos.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Endless OS</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<p>We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!</p>

<h2>Producer</h2>

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<li>John</li>
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<li>Tim</li>
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<h4>Super User</h4>

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<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
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<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Livet</li>
<li>Musical Coder</li>
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<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
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  <title>Episode 3:15: A Hot Plate of Hype</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Linux User Space
A podcast focused on connecting user space and community
In this episode we discuss browsers, browser extensions and more browsers. We throw in a great community plug and some Podman banter too.
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A little podman&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Manifest v3&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Browsers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;More Browsers?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And what do you know? More browsers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open&lt;br&gt;
1:30 Giving Podman a Whirl&lt;br&gt;
10:14 What's Wrong with a Few Boxes?&lt;br&gt;
18:08 Browser Watch: Firefox 109&lt;br&gt;
22:47 Browser Watch: Manifest v3 History&lt;br&gt;
31:44 Browser Watch: A Little More Manifest v3&lt;br&gt;
40:03 Browser Watch: The Chromium Scrolls&lt;br&gt;
48:24 Browser Watch: A Fix to the Web&lt;br&gt;
56:06 Feedback: Johnny and LinuxGameCast&lt;br&gt;
58:51 Kid3 Turns 20&lt;br&gt;
1:00:39 QR Codes for All!&lt;br&gt;
1:05:22 Community Focus: ASUS NLC&lt;br&gt;
1:09:41 App Focus: Gnome Web + Tangram&lt;br&gt;
1:17:51 Next Time: CentOS&lt;br&gt;
1:20:03 Stinger&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The video version:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/ZC4IUlCfP1c" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/ZC4IUlCfP1c&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Banter&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://podman.io/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Podman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://podman-desktop.io/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Podman Desktop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Give us a sub on &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;You can watch us live on &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt; the day after an episode drops.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/109.0/releasenotes/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Firefox 109&lt;/a&gt; brings manifest v3 support&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/extensions-addons/heres-whats-going-on-in-the-world-of-extensions/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;What are we talking about?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Maniwhat, now? Version who?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;2018, Google &lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nPu6Wy4LWR66EFLeYInl3NzzhHzc-qnk4w4PX-0XMw8/edit#" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;proposes&lt;/a&gt; Manifest v3.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;July 2019, The EFF &lt;a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/googles-plans-chrome-extensions-wont-really-help-security" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;notes.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Then in September of 2019, Firefox &lt;a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/09/03/mozillas-manifest-v3-faq/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;responded&lt;/a&gt; to the Manifest v3 announcement.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;April 2020, Vivaldi, with version 3.0, &lt;a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/1-day-2-big-vivaldi-browser-releases/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;debuts its ad and tracker blocker&lt;/a&gt; as a &lt;a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;means to bypass&lt;/a&gt; the manifest v3 issue altogether.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brave had always had an ad blocker, but &lt;a href="https://brave.com/improved-ad-blocker-performance/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;beefed up&lt;/a&gt; its performance and ability in 2019.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;November 2020, &lt;a href="https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/intro/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Google finalizes and publishes Manifest v3&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;December 2021, The EFF &lt;a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/googles-manifest-v3-still-hurts-privacy-security-innovation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;reminds us&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/a559f5f2715c58fea4de09330cf3d06194ccc897" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;uBlock Origin Lite&lt;/a&gt; exists.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;More Announcements&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, &lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;contact@linuxuserspace.show&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Moar Browser Watch&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Chromium answers Leo's prayers! In 109, Linux scrolling &lt;a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;seems to have been fixed&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;He complained about it in &lt;a href="https://www.linuxuserspace.show/216" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Season 2 Episode 16&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=521211" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Bug.&lt;/a&gt;
### A fix to the web&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brave's been blocking the &lt;a href="https://brave.com/privacy-updates/21-blocking-cookie-notices/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;cookie consent banners&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Feedback&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Thanks Johnny (Aromatic Dev) for having the &lt;a href="https://linuxgamecast.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Linux Game Cast&lt;/a&gt; folks give us a shout.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;A couple of other topics&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/01/kid3-20th-birthday/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Kid3 turns 20&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://linux.die.net/man/1/qrencode" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;code&gt;qrencode&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DuckDuckGo &lt;a href="https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/features/instant-answers-and-other-features/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;instant answers&lt;/a&gt; can make QR codes too, just type &lt;code&gt;qr code WHATEVER&lt;/code&gt; e.g. &lt;code&gt;qr code https://linuxuserspace.show&lt;/code&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subreddit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Discord Server&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Telegram&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matrix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux User Space &lt;a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Community Focus&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://asus-linux.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ASUS NoteBook Linux Community&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Their &lt;a href="https://gitlab.com/asus-linux" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GitLab&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;App Focus &lt;strong&gt;Gnome Web + Tangram&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://apps.gnome.org/app/org.gnome.Epiphany/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gnome Web&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://apps.gnome.org/app/re.sonny.Tangram/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Tangram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Next Time&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The history of &lt;a href="https://www.centos.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CentOS&lt;/a&gt;, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show&lt;/strong&gt;*&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Producer&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bruno&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4&gt;Co-Producer&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h5&gt;Super User&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Advait&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bjørnar&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CubicleNate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eduardo S.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jill and Steve&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Larry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LiNuXsys666&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicholas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Paul&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;sleepyeyesvince &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>A little podman</li>
<li>Manifest v3</li>
<li>Browsers</li>
<li>More Browsers?</li>
<li>And what do you know? More browsers</li>
</ol>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 Giving Podman a Whirl<br>
10:14 What&#39;s Wrong with a Few Boxes?<br>
18:08 Browser Watch: Firefox 109<br>
22:47 Browser Watch: Manifest v3 History<br>
31:44 Browser Watch: A Little More Manifest v3<br>
40:03 Browser Watch: The Chromium Scrolls<br>
48:24 Browser Watch: A Fix to the Web<br>
56:06 Feedback: Johnny and LinuxGameCast<br>
58:51 Kid3 Turns 20<br>
1:00:39 QR Codes for All!<br>
1:05:22 Community Focus: ASUS NLC<br>
1:09:41 App Focus: Gnome Web + Tangram<br>
1:17:51 Next Time: CentOS<br>
1:20:03 Stinger</p>

<p>The video version:<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/ZC4IUlCfP1c" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/ZC4IUlCfP1c</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://podman.io/" rel="nofollow">Podman</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podman-desktop.io/" rel="nofollow">Podman Desktop</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<h2><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/109.0/releasenotes/" rel="nofollow">Firefox 109</a> brings manifest v3 support</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/extensions-addons/heres-whats-going-on-in-the-world-of-extensions/" rel="nofollow">What are we talking about?</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Maniwhat, now? Version who?</h3>

<ul>
<li>2018, Google <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nPu6Wy4LWR66EFLeYInl3NzzhHzc-qnk4w4PX-0XMw8/edit#" rel="nofollow">proposes</a> Manifest v3.</li>
<li>July 2019, The EFF <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/googles-plans-chrome-extensions-wont-really-help-security" rel="nofollow">notes.</a></li>
<li>Then in September of 2019, Firefox <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/09/03/mozillas-manifest-v3-faq/" rel="nofollow">responded</a> to the Manifest v3 announcement.</li>
<li>April 2020, Vivaldi, with version 3.0, <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/1-day-2-big-vivaldi-browser-releases/" rel="nofollow">debuts its ad and tracker blocker</a> as a <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/" rel="nofollow">means to bypass</a> the manifest v3 issue altogether.</li>
<li>Brave had always had an ad blocker, but <a href="https://brave.com/improved-ad-blocker-performance/" rel="nofollow">beefed up</a> its performance and ability in 2019.</li>
<li>November 2020, <a href="https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/intro/" rel="nofollow">Google finalizes and publishes Manifest v3</a>.</li>
<li>December 2021, The EFF <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/googles-manifest-v3-still-hurts-privacy-security-innovation" rel="nofollow">reminds us</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/a559f5f2715c58fea4de09330cf3d06194ccc897" rel="nofollow">uBlock Origin Lite</a> exists.</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Moar Browser Watch</h2>

<h3>Chromium answers Leo&#39;s prayers! In 109, Linux scrolling <a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27" rel="nofollow">seems to have been fixed</a>.</h3>

<ul>
<li>He complained about it in <a href="https://www.linuxuserspace.show/216" rel="nofollow">Season 2 Episode 16</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=521211" rel="nofollow">The Bug.</a>
### A fix to the web</li>
<li>Brave&#39;s been blocking the <a href="https://brave.com/privacy-updates/21-blocking-cookie-notices/" rel="nofollow">cookie consent banners</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<ul>
<li>Thanks Johnny (Aromatic Dev) for having the <a href="https://linuxgamecast.com/" rel="nofollow">Linux Game Cast</a> folks give us a shout.</li>
</ul>

<h2>A couple of other topics</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/01/kid3-20th-birthday/" rel="nofollow">Kid3 turns 20</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linux.die.net/man/1/qrencode" rel="nofollow"><code>qrencode</code></a></li>
<li>DuckDuckGo <a href="https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/features/instant-answers-and-other-features/" rel="nofollow">instant answers</a> can make QR codes too, just type <code>qr code WHATEVER</code> e.g. <code>qr code https://linuxuserspace.show</code>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

<p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p>

<ul>
<li>Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li>
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<h2>Community Focus</h2>

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://asus-linux.org/" rel="nofollow">ASUS NoteBook Linux Community</a></li>
<li>Their <a href="https://gitlab.com/asus-linux" rel="nofollow">GitLab</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>App Focus <strong>Gnome Web + Tangram</strong></h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://apps.gnome.org/app/org.gnome.Epiphany/" rel="nofollow">Gnome Web</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apps.gnome.org/app/re.sonny.Tangram/" rel="nofollow">Tangram</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>The history of <a href="https://www.centos.org/" rel="nofollow">CentOS</a>, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show</strong>*</p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

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<li>Johnny</li>
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<h5>Super User</h5>

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<li>Advait</li>
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<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
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<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
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<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>A little podman</li>
<li>Manifest v3</li>
<li>Browsers</li>
<li>More Browsers?</li>
<li>And what do you know? More browsers</li>
</ol>

<p>0:00 Cold Open<br>
1:30 Giving Podman a Whirl<br>
10:14 What&#39;s Wrong with a Few Boxes?<br>
18:08 Browser Watch: Firefox 109<br>
22:47 Browser Watch: Manifest v3 History<br>
31:44 Browser Watch: A Little More Manifest v3<br>
40:03 Browser Watch: The Chromium Scrolls<br>
48:24 Browser Watch: A Fix to the Web<br>
56:06 Feedback: Johnny and LinuxGameCast<br>
58:51 Kid3 Turns 20<br>
1:00:39 QR Codes for All!<br>
1:05:22 Community Focus: ASUS NLC<br>
1:09:41 App Focus: Gnome Web + Tangram<br>
1:17:51 Next Time: CentOS<br>
1:20:03 Stinger</p>

<p>The video version:<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/ZC4IUlCfP1c" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/ZC4IUlCfP1c</a></p>

<h2>Banter</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://podman.io/" rel="nofollow">Podman</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podman-desktop.io/" rel="nofollow">Podman Desktop</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Give us a sub on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> </li>
<li>You can watch us live on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a> the day after an episode drops.</li>
<li>If you like what we&#39;re doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace</a></li>
</ul>

<h2><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/109.0/releasenotes/" rel="nofollow">Firefox 109</a> brings manifest v3 support</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/extensions-addons/heres-whats-going-on-in-the-world-of-extensions/" rel="nofollow">What are we talking about?</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Maniwhat, now? Version who?</h3>

<ul>
<li>2018, Google <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nPu6Wy4LWR66EFLeYInl3NzzhHzc-qnk4w4PX-0XMw8/edit#" rel="nofollow">proposes</a> Manifest v3.</li>
<li>July 2019, The EFF <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/googles-plans-chrome-extensions-wont-really-help-security" rel="nofollow">notes.</a></li>
<li>Then in September of 2019, Firefox <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/09/03/mozillas-manifest-v3-faq/" rel="nofollow">responded</a> to the Manifest v3 announcement.</li>
<li>April 2020, Vivaldi, with version 3.0, <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/1-day-2-big-vivaldi-browser-releases/" rel="nofollow">debuts its ad and tracker blocker</a> as a <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/" rel="nofollow">means to bypass</a> the manifest v3 issue altogether.</li>
<li>Brave had always had an ad blocker, but <a href="https://brave.com/improved-ad-blocker-performance/" rel="nofollow">beefed up</a> its performance and ability in 2019.</li>
<li>November 2020, <a href="https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/intro/" rel="nofollow">Google finalizes and publishes Manifest v3</a>.</li>
<li>December 2021, The EFF <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/googles-manifest-v3-still-hurts-privacy-security-innovation" rel="nofollow">reminds us</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/a559f5f2715c58fea4de09330cf3d06194ccc897" rel="nofollow">uBlock Origin Lite</a> exists.</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Announcements</h2>

<ul>
<li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">contact@linuxuserspace.show</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Moar Browser Watch</h2>

<h3>Chromium answers Leo&#39;s prayers! In 109, Linux scrolling <a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27" rel="nofollow">seems to have been fixed</a>.</h3>

<ul>
<li>He complained about it in <a href="https://www.linuxuserspace.show/216" rel="nofollow">Season 2 Episode 16</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=521211" rel="nofollow">The Bug.</a>
### A fix to the web</li>
<li>Brave&#39;s been blocking the <a href="https://brave.com/privacy-updates/21-blocking-cookie-notices/" rel="nofollow">cookie consent banners</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Feedback</h2>

<ul>
<li>Thanks Johnny (Aromatic Dev) for having the <a href="https://linuxgamecast.com/" rel="nofollow">Linux Game Cast</a> folks give us a shout.</li>
</ul>

<h2>A couple of other topics</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/01/kid3-20th-birthday/" rel="nofollow">Kid3 turns 20</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linux.die.net/man/1/qrencode" rel="nofollow"><code>qrencode</code></a></li>
<li>DuckDuckGo <a href="https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/features/instant-answers-and-other-features/" rel="nofollow">instant answers</a> can make QR codes too, just type <code>qr code WHATEVER</code> e.g. <code>qr code https://linuxuserspace.show</code>.</li>
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<h2>Housekeeping</h2>

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<h2>Community Focus</h2>

<ul>
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<li>Their <a href="https://gitlab.com/asus-linux" rel="nofollow">GitLab</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>App Focus <strong>Gnome Web + Tangram</strong></h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://apps.gnome.org/app/org.gnome.Epiphany/" rel="nofollow">Gnome Web</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apps.gnome.org/app/re.sonny.Tangram/" rel="nofollow">Tangram</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Next Time</h2>

<p><strong>The history of <a href="https://www.centos.org/" rel="nofollow">CentOS</a>, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show</strong>*</p>

<p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space</strong></p>

<p><strong>Stay tuned and interact with us on  Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p>

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<li>Tim</li>
</ul>

<h5>Super User</h5>

<ul>
<li>Advait</li>
<li>Bjørnar</li>
<li>CubicleNate</li>
<li>Eduardo S.</li>
<li>Jill and Steve</li>
<li>Larry</li>
<li>LiNuXsys666</li>
<li>Nicholas</li>
<li>Paul</li>
<li>sleepyeyesvince</li>
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  <title>Episode 14: The WOW Factor</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Linux User Space</author>
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A podcast focused on connecting user space and community
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Coming up in this episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;XFace gets a new face&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CentOS rocks your world&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mozilla Watch&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We wish upon a star&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And we think inside the box&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Preshow&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Wowstick-Electric-Screwdriver-Cordless-Lithium-ion/dp/B07H27G9NF/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&amp;amp;keywords=wowstick&amp;amp;qid=1609986722&amp;amp;sr=8-4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Wowstick 1F on Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;XFCE 4.14 --&amp;gt; 4.16&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.xfce.org/about/news/?post=1608595200" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Official Announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.xfce.org/about/tour416" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Official Tour, highlighting the new color palette&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://9to5linux.com/xfce-4-16-desktop-environment-officially-released-this-is-whats-new" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://9to5linux.com/xfce-4-16-desktop-environment-officially-released-this-is-whats-new&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TL;DR - Fractional scaling. New Icons. Cleaned up dialogs and settings menus.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;CentOS Linux announcement&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.centos.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CentOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Official Announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old "Rough" Timeline

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fedora --&amp;gt; wait some years --&amp;gt; Centos Stream --&amp;gt; wait a few weeks --&amp;gt; RHEL --&amp;gt; wait some more time --&amp;gt; Centos&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New "Rough" Timeline

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fedora --&amp;gt; wait some years --&amp;gt; Centos Stream --&amp;gt; wait a few weeks --&amp;gt; RHEL&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://rockylinux.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Rocky Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.projectlenix.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Project Lenix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.oracle.com/linux/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Oracle Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Mozilla Watch...&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visual refresh &lt;a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=proton" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;meta bug&lt;/a&gt; AKA proton --&amp;gt; photon

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.techradar.com/news/get-ready-for-a-radical-firefox-redesign" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.techradar.com/news/get-ready-for-a-radical-firefox-redesign&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/01/firefox-proton/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/01/firefox-proton/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Wishlist for 2021&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I think the Pine 64 &lt;a href="https://www.pine64.org/2020/11/15/november-update-kde-pinephone-ce-and-a-peek-into-the-future/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;future&lt;/a&gt; looks good. My wish is that the time frame is closer to the 6 month range for the next gen stuff to start to materialize.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intel gets their new graphics stack rolled out for laptops. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Leo

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pine/Pi Moar Cores! Enthusiast server platform.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Firefox becomes a major player again. Nature abhors a monoculture.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joe

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;My long suffering 4k laptop screen woes remedied (installers that support Hidpi)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RPi sata or M.2 ports (even MMC)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Housekeeping&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Email us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;Support us at &lt;a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Patreon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;h3&gt;App Focus&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Gnome Boxes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
This episode's app: &lt;a href="https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-boxes/stable/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gnome Boxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Boxes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Boxes on flathub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Next Time&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We discuss January's distro of the month,  &lt;a href="https://getsol.us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Solus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Join us in two weeks when we return to the Linux User Space&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>XFace gets a new face</li>
<li>CentOS rocks your world</li>
<li>Mozilla Watch</li>
<li>We wish upon a star</li>
<li>And we think inside the box</li>
</ol>

<h3>Preshow</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Wowstick-Electric-Screwdriver-Cordless-Lithium-ion/dp/B07H27G9NF/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=wowstick&qid=1609986722&sr=8-4" rel="nofollow">Wowstick 1F on Amazon</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>XFCE 4.14 --&gt; 4.16</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.xfce.org/about/news/?post=1608595200" rel="nofollow">Official Announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.xfce.org/about/tour416" rel="nofollow">Official Tour, highlighting the new color palette</a></li>
<li><a href="https://9to5linux.com/xfce-4-16-desktop-environment-officially-released-this-is-whats-new" rel="nofollow">https://9to5linux.com/xfce-4-16-desktop-environment-officially-released-this-is-whats-new</a></li>
<li>TL;DR - Fractional scaling. New Icons. Cleaned up dialogs and settings menus.</li>
</ul>

<h3>CentOS Linux announcement</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.centos.org" rel="nofollow">CentOS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/" rel="nofollow">Official Announcement</a></li>
<li>Old &quot;Rough&quot; Timeline

<ul>
<li>Fedora --&gt; wait some years --&gt; Centos Stream --&gt; wait a few weeks --&gt; RHEL --&gt; wait some more time --&gt; Centos</li>
</ul></li>
<li>New &quot;Rough&quot; Timeline

<ul>
<li>Fedora --&gt; wait some years --&gt; Centos Stream --&gt; wait a few weeks --&gt; RHEL</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://rockylinux.org" rel="nofollow">Rocky Linux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.projectlenix.org/" rel="nofollow">Project Lenix</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/linux/" rel="nofollow">Oracle Linux</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Mozilla Watch...</h3>

<ul>
<li>Visual refresh <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=proton" rel="nofollow">meta bug</a> AKA proton --&gt; photon

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.techradar.com/news/get-ready-for-a-radical-firefox-redesign" rel="nofollow">https://www.techradar.com/news/get-ready-for-a-radical-firefox-redesign</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/01/firefox-proton/" rel="nofollow">https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/01/firefox-proton/</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h3>Wishlist for 2021</h3>

<ul>
<li>Dan

<ul>
<li>I think the Pine 64 <a href="https://www.pine64.org/2020/11/15/november-update-kde-pinephone-ce-and-a-peek-into-the-future/" rel="nofollow">future</a> looks good. My wish is that the time frame is closer to the 6 month range for the next gen stuff to start to materialize.</li>
<li>Intel gets their new graphics stack rolled out for laptops. </li>
</ul></li>
<li>Leo

<ul>
<li>Pine/Pi Moar Cores! Enthusiast server platform.</li>
<li>Firefox becomes a major player again. Nature abhors a monoculture.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Joe

<ul>
<li>My long suffering 4k laptop screen woes remedied (installers that support Hidpi)</li>
<li>RPi sata or M.2 ports (even MMC)</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

<p><a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Email us</a></p>

<p><a href="https://isc.sans.edu/podcast.html" rel="nofollow">SANS Internet Stormcast</a></p>

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<p>Check out <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Linux User Space</a> on the web</p>

<h3>App Focus</h3>

<p><strong>Gnome Boxes</strong><br>
This episode&#39;s app: <a href="https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-boxes/stable/" rel="nofollow">Gnome Boxes</a></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Boxes" rel="nofollow">Boxes on flathub</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We discuss January&#39;s distro of the month,  <a href="https://getsol.us" rel="nofollow">Solus</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Join us in two weeks when we return to the Linux User Space</strong></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>XFace gets a new face</li>
<li>CentOS rocks your world</li>
<li>Mozilla Watch</li>
<li>We wish upon a star</li>
<li>And we think inside the box</li>
</ol>

<h3>Preshow</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Wowstick-Electric-Screwdriver-Cordless-Lithium-ion/dp/B07H27G9NF/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=wowstick&qid=1609986722&sr=8-4" rel="nofollow">Wowstick 1F on Amazon</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>XFCE 4.14 --&gt; 4.16</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.xfce.org/about/news/?post=1608595200" rel="nofollow">Official Announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.xfce.org/about/tour416" rel="nofollow">Official Tour, highlighting the new color palette</a></li>
<li><a href="https://9to5linux.com/xfce-4-16-desktop-environment-officially-released-this-is-whats-new" rel="nofollow">https://9to5linux.com/xfce-4-16-desktop-environment-officially-released-this-is-whats-new</a></li>
<li>TL;DR - Fractional scaling. New Icons. Cleaned up dialogs and settings menus.</li>
</ul>

<h3>CentOS Linux announcement</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.centos.org" rel="nofollow">CentOS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/" rel="nofollow">Official Announcement</a></li>
<li>Old &quot;Rough&quot; Timeline

<ul>
<li>Fedora --&gt; wait some years --&gt; Centos Stream --&gt; wait a few weeks --&gt; RHEL --&gt; wait some more time --&gt; Centos</li>
</ul></li>
<li>New &quot;Rough&quot; Timeline

<ul>
<li>Fedora --&gt; wait some years --&gt; Centos Stream --&gt; wait a few weeks --&gt; RHEL</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://rockylinux.org" rel="nofollow">Rocky Linux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.projectlenix.org/" rel="nofollow">Project Lenix</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/linux/" rel="nofollow">Oracle Linux</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Mozilla Watch...</h3>

<ul>
<li>Visual refresh <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=proton" rel="nofollow">meta bug</a> AKA proton --&gt; photon

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.techradar.com/news/get-ready-for-a-radical-firefox-redesign" rel="nofollow">https://www.techradar.com/news/get-ready-for-a-radical-firefox-redesign</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/01/firefox-proton/" rel="nofollow">https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/01/firefox-proton/</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h3>Wishlist for 2021</h3>

<ul>
<li>Dan

<ul>
<li>I think the Pine 64 <a href="https://www.pine64.org/2020/11/15/november-update-kde-pinephone-ce-and-a-peek-into-the-future/" rel="nofollow">future</a> looks good. My wish is that the time frame is closer to the 6 month range for the next gen stuff to start to materialize.</li>
<li>Intel gets their new graphics stack rolled out for laptops. </li>
</ul></li>
<li>Leo

<ul>
<li>Pine/Pi Moar Cores! Enthusiast server platform.</li>
<li>Firefox becomes a major player again. Nature abhors a monoculture.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Joe

<ul>
<li>My long suffering 4k laptop screen woes remedied (installers that support Hidpi)</li>
<li>RPi sata or M.2 ports (even MMC)</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h3>Housekeeping</h3>

<p><a href="mailto:contact@linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Email us</a></p>

<p><a href="https://isc.sans.edu/podcast.html" rel="nofollow">SANS Internet Stormcast</a></p>

<p>Support us at <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patreon</a></p>

<p>Join us on <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a> </p>

<p>Follow us on <a href="https://twitter.com/LinuxUserSpace" rel="nofollow">twitter</a></p>

<p>Check out <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Linux User Space</a> on the web</p>

<h3>App Focus</h3>

<p><strong>Gnome Boxes</strong><br>
This episode&#39;s app: <a href="https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-boxes/stable/" rel="nofollow">Gnome Boxes</a></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Boxes" rel="nofollow">Boxes on flathub</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Next Time</h3>

<p><strong>We discuss January&#39;s distro of the month,  <a href="https://getsol.us" rel="nofollow">Solus</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Join us in two weeks when we return to the Linux User Space</strong></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>]]>
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