• We do a little upgrade
• Firefox fixes a tooltip
• The History of W, V, X and CDE
• How it went
• And a new old desktop to explore

0:00 Cold Open
1:42 Lemmy's Upgraded!
10:56 A 22 Year Old Bug
15:50 Install Firefox Correctly
22:22 CDE History: Intro
24:04 CDE History: X
27:33 CDE History: OPEN LOOK
29:25 CDE History: COSE
31:28 CDE History: CDE & Others
34:24 CDE History: The Opening
36:14 CDE History: The Releases
43:02 How'd CDE Go?
1:16:00 Next Time
1:21:29 Stinger

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Banter

• The LUS Lemmy instance got an update.
  • The ansible repo switched to tagged releases. There were ⚠️breaking changes⚠️ that needed to be prepared for.
  • One of the issues Dan had is likely fixed now.
• The Bug that's old enough to drink and drive, but hopefully not at the same time!
• Dan installed Firefox from the .tar.gz download.
  • Spoiler - it updates just fine because my user is the owner in the /opt directory.

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The History of The Common Desktop Environment (CDE)

• The Andrew Project
• W was a windowing system that was originally written for the V operating system.
• In 1984, Robert Scheifler wrote.
• X is our “reaction” to W
• Ultrix Window Manager, or uwm
• Tom's Window Manager, which eventually became Tab Window Manager, or twm
• Open Look Specification
• The OSF narrows the search for a User Interface.
• HP and Microsoft's CXI and DEC's XUI to create the HP OSF/Motif Window Manager.
• Sun went on to build OpenWindows, which was X with OPEN LOOK on top to replace SunView.
• COSE
• In 1994, The OSF and Unix International, a body meant to standardize UNIX, merged, and in 96, merged again with X/Open into The Open Group.
• Motif and CDE became one
• KDE enters the scene.
• May of 2000 when Motif was released as OpenMotif.
• LessTif, because Less is Mo, published an initial statement
• August 6th, 2012, CDE was relicensed under the LGPL and was available on SourceForge, where it still lives today.
• After opening it up, 2.2.1 was released on March 1st, 2014.
• The final release, at least as of this recording, 2.5.1, dropped in October of 2022.

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Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the Xfce Desktop Environment

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1. Leo shows his moxy
2. Ubuntu falls flat
3. Watch the browsers
4. A Look back on our season
5. and Leo moves his files

See this episode on Youtube
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319 Audio Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
2:03 Proxy Moxie
16:42 Ansible In Your Pantsible
22:56 Ubuntu Falls Flat
41:57 Browser Watch!
1:03:55 Feedback
1:13:49 Season 3 Recap
1:26:17 Community Focus: Geerling Guy
1:28:13 App Focus: TermSCP & Filezilla
1:37:25 Next Time: Raspberry Pi OS
1:39:25 Stinger

Banter

• Proxmox
• Ansible

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Flattening out Ubuntu

• Ubuntu and the official flavors decide not to include Flatpak by default

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Browser Watch

• Total Cookie Protection
• Firefox Extension
• Firefox will get support for animated AV1 images and in a surprise move an official debian/ubuntu package in .deb format.
• Edge is testing a Crypto Wallet.
• Edge added DALL-E right into the browser!
• Brave adds a VPN option.
• Brave removes legacy Google sign-in Cookies.
• Chrome/Chromium will unload background tabs to save memory.
• Falkon is finally getting hardware acceleration!
• Gnome Web has a few tricks coming in version 44, as well.

Feedback

Senor Araton On compiling the Gentoo Kernel

• Installed a distribution-binary-kernel to get a running system.
• Leo wants to compile all the things.

John A. On Linux Books

• ownCloud

Bradly on the Ubuntu ShipIt Program

• Tried to convert as many as possible.

Bonus Bradly

• Also - Leo, make the switch to Proxmox. Dan is right.

R.L. on -O3

• Just FYI, the compiler option is -O3 (dash oh three), not -03 (dash zero 3) The O obviously stands for Optimize 😅.

Season 3 in review - Pick of the picks

• Community Focus - Dan - Veronica Explains
• Community Focus - Leo - Linux Saloon
• App Focus - Dan - Crowdsec
• App Focus - Leo - trash-cli
• Distro - Dan - CentOS Stream
• Distro - Leo - EndlessOS

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Community Focus - Geerling Guy

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App Focus Filezilla and termscp

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Next Time

The history of Raspberry Pi OS, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show*

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